Bouton simply shakes his head.he's been struggling making any contact with fastballs dotted away. see how that goes after this career game
Bouton simply shakes his head.he's been struggling making any contact with fastballs dotted away. see how that goes after this career game
Yeah, he's shown enough bat lately that I definitely jumped the gun a bit worrying about that May stretch.Including tonight's 5/5, 25 games, 106 PA, .352/.425/.659. Ready to eat?
edit: Take away today's game and the 2 game stretch to start it all, and sandwiched in there is a .282/.370/.436 in 92 PA. So he's been pretty consistent, too.
It has been a month and this is why you shouldn't send Benintendi down and deal for a league average OFer. He just needs to work the speed bumps out at the major league level.Like the post stated before you, 2 game sample size. Good to see it though and hopefully it continues. Feel free to get back to me in a week or so with the "I told you so's" and I'll gladly eat more of them.
(plus my initial comment was partially dependent on digging up a decent placeholder btw, which we didn't have then or now anyway. It's not like i was suggesting we simply send him down for the hell of it)
The following year the same 3 did it again though one was technically not the starter.BTW, with Mookie at 15, Andrew at 12 and JBJ at 11, all three Sox starting outfielders are on a pace to hit 20 or more HR this year. When was the last time that happened?
1984: Jim Rice 28, Tony Armas 43, Dwight Evans 32
It has been a month and this is why you shouldn't send Benintendi down and deal for a league average OFer. He just needs to work the speed bumps out at the major league level.
We'll run into the same type of thing with Devers. It use to be called a Sophmore slump, but with all the video work, pitchers quickly develop a book on hitters holes.
Or that Price and Porcello would have 11 wins between them. Baseball is a crazy game.More on that, who would have thought the Redsox would be up 4.5 games if I told you Ben10 would be leading the Sox in OPS with an .808 mark on August 12th?
I don't know, his face is a pretty good reminder.Because he was up last year we truly forget the age of this guy...
The fact that many many many prospects his age are in A ball is something that is pretty easy to forget.I don't know, his face is a pretty good reminder.
Honestly, as far as ceiling goes, Devers is above both of them.The fact that many many many prospects his age are in A ball is something that is pretty easy to forget.
Honestly, he's a budding superstar on this game. It's him and Mookie as far as ceiling goes.
AL East is incredibly weak this year. Normally you would not be sniffing the division without 95+ wins. This year nobody else looks like they hit 90 W and we are on pace for 92He's been incredibly streaky this year but 116 games into the season, Ben10 leads the Redsox in OPS with an .808 mark, slashing .280/.359/.448.
He's been really hot in August, slashing .484/.541/.968 in 36 PA. At the end of July, he was hitting .262/.344/.404.
More on that, who would have thought the Redsox would be up 4.5 games if I told you Ben10 would be leading the Sox in OPS with an .808 mark on August 12th?
Divisions by overall divisional run differential:AL East is incredibly weak this year. Normally you would not be sniffing the division without 95+ wins. This year nobody else looks like they hit 90 W and we are on pace for 92
Might be "weak" but Sox are up to the 4th best record in majors, and about as close to #2 and #3 as the Yankees are to them.AL East is incredibly weak this year. Normally you would not be sniffing the division without 95+ wins. This year nobody else looks like they hit 90 W and we are on pace for 92
Toronto's last place 55-61 is better than any other last place team and some 4th place teams. The AL east also has no complete shitbags like SF, chi, Phil oak and cin.AL East is incredibly weak this year. Normally you would not be sniffing the division without 95+ wins. This year nobody else looks like they hit 90 W and we are on pace for 92
Betts just finished second in all of MLB in WAR (BRef), behind only Mickey Mantle, at 23. So you're basically saying Devers could be the Sistine Chapel. I like Devers but I'll stick with Betts for ceiling.Honestly, as far as ceiling goes, Devers is above both of them.
The division with the second most wins in baseball is weak?AL East is incredibly weak this year. Normally you would not be sniffing the division without 95+ wins. This year nobody else looks like they hit 90 W and we are on pace for 92
Or one could conclude that WAR is hardly an exact science, which leaves any absolute measuring value you try to pull out of Betts' total last year highly debatable at best. Especially when it's ticking in with a fairly sizable defensive component to it.Devers would basically need to be peak Miguel Cabrera as a hitter on top of winning a gold glove to beat Betts ceiling.
It's not like Betts was one and done with his defense and baserunning last year, -we have a healthy sample of him being one of the best defenders in baseball. We may have seen his best season, I'm just saying it's pretty unlikely Devers will be able to approach what Betts did last year, much less be an MVP runner up.Or one could conclude that WAR is hardly an exact science, which leaves any absolute measuring value you try to pull out of Betts' total last year highly debatable at best. Especially when it's ticking in with a fairly sizable defensive component to it.
If Devers has the chance to be peak Miguel Cabrera at 3B with even a tick above average defense, I'd personally take that ceiling over Betts' too.
Yeah, going back over the last 15 years or so. Its relative. Only 2 teams over 500 and nobody on pace to win 95+The division with the second most wins in baseball is weak?
The division has a cumulative SRS of +0.8 which is tied with the NL West.Yeah, going back over the last 15 years or so. Its relative. Only 2 teams over 500 and nobody on pace to win 95+
What's the significance of a 95+ win team relative to divisional strength? Btw, the Sox are on pace for aboutYeah, going back over the last 15 years or so. Its relative. Only 2 teams over 500 and nobody on pace to win 95+
Doesn't a 95+ win team suggest divisional weakness, given the unbalanced schedule?Yeah, going back over the last 15 years or so. Its relative. Only 2 teams over 500 and nobody on pace to win 95+
You realize this generally means, since the teams play each other so much, that all the teams are pretty decent?Yeah, going back over the last 15 years or so. Its relative. Only 2 teams over 500 and nobody on pace to win 95+
That's not how ceilings and floors work. Betts' floor is way way WAY lower than 9.5 WAR in any given season. Jesus.Betts just finished second in all of MLB in WAR (BRef), behind only Mickey Mantle, at 23. So you're basically saying Devers could be the Sistine Chapel. I like Devers but I'll stick with Betts for ceiling.
Edit: what I mean is, I'll bet against Devers or Benintendi ever putting up a 9.5 WAR, which is Betts' floor since he already did it, as excited as I am about both of them.
And I know we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but isn't Devers offensive ceiling much higher than Betts? I understand that Betts is a great defender, baserunner, and hitter, but "best case" Devers is, what, Kris Bryant? Especially if Devers can actually play 3B which it looks like he can, so far? I think Devers, Betts and Benintendi have comparable ceilings, that is what makes this team so exciting! Devers is 20!That's not how ceilings and floors work. Betts' floor is way way WAY lower than 9.5 WAR in any given season. Jesus.
This is a quibble, so please take it as such, but I don't think you can make a reasonable argument that Devers has the ceiling of what Kris Bryant is now. I mean, Bryant himself didn't have this ceiling. He's the rare rare exception that busted through his ceiling to become a generational player. There's a reason comps like that get laughed at.And I know we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but isn't Devers offensive ceiling much higher than Betts? I understand that Betts is a great defender, baserunner, and hitter, but "best case" Devers is, what, Kris Bryant? Especially if Devers can actually play 3B which it looks like he can, so far? I think Devers, Betts and Benintendi have comparable ceilings, that is what makes this team so exciting! Devers is 20!
You are absolutely correct. And, in fact, 9.5 might be Betts' ceiling. Maybe last year was the best year he'll ever have in the majors. It's entirely possible. I mean, most players never sniff a 9.5 WAR season.That's not how ceilings and floors work. Betts' floor is way way WAY lower than 9.5 WAR in any given season. Jesus.