Kick it, go for it, whatever. This Packers team probably will not win another game the rest of the season. And yes, I know they have a game with the Browns.
I quite agree with your whole statement, and especially the bolded - and you're making my point for me, which is that statistics like "If you take that HOF QB away from that HOF coach, his record isn't that special!" are not worth the paper they're not printed on. Doing so for Fisher is every bit as empty a number as it would be for even the HOF-grade coaches, which Fisher is (we hope) assuredly not.Oh, your question was rhetorical. LOL. Anyway, I'm one of those people that believe you can't separate BB's success from Brady's or Brady's success from BB's, but I firmly hold the opinion that had it not been Brady, BB would have still had an amazing coaching career, and wouldn't be anywhere near the conversation of guys like Jeff Fisher. He wouldn't have five rings, 7 conference championships, etc., but I think he's still probably a HOF coach. We may never know, or we may very well find out after TB12 is done. I'm hoping it waits for a long, long time either way.
Anyone who didn't take Detroit -3, hates money.The over wins on an untimed down following a pass interference in the endzone.
They went 7-9 in the year he missed; they went 13-3 (and Super Bowl), 11-5, 13-3, 7-9 (without Payton), 11-5, then began the current streak of 7-9s.He has a 100-68 regular season record, which sounds great until you realize they won 48 of those games during a 4 year stretch, a stretch in which he missed an entire season due to a suspension for Bountygate.
So Payton is a poor man’s Don Shula, who got to exactly one Super Bowl with Dan Marino, a game in which the Dolphins got flogged?I think that's pretty close to accurate. For me, the true Eli of head coaches is Sean Payton down in New Orleans. That's a guy who has had one of the greatest QB's in NFL history for his entire 11 year career, and outside of the Super Bowl year, he has exactly 3 playoff wins, and a total of 5 playoff appearances (including the SB year). In the last 3 years, they've gone 7-9 in all three.
He has a 100-68 regular season record, which sounds great until you realize they won 48 of those games during a 4 year stretch, a stretch in which he missed an entire season due to a suspension for Bountygate.
If any coach in Football needed a hot start more than Payton did this year, I don't know who it is, although I'm pretty sure New Orleans would never fire the guy because of the one super bowl victory he did give them.
His best work was pre-Marino, and he deserves great credit for being successful a long time over different eras. Overall, 2 and 4 in Super Bowls, including being on the wrong side of the second biggest upset and the transformational game in NFL history. “poor man’s” an important qualification. My main point was not to be too critical of what Payton got from Brees.I don't get the Shula comment. Did you mean to only keep it to his Marino years? You left out some Super Bowl trips.
And not sure why only focused on that part of his career.
Unless it's a poor mans don shula with Dan Marino. Now it makes more sense.
Edit. Nope. As don shula would be a poor mans Sean Peyton as Shula/Marino didn't win one.
Ehh too early in morning for me right now.