On the summer vacation or to the draft? Guessing your answer may not changeDon't bring her.
On the summer vacation or to the draft? Guessing your answer may not changeDon't bring her.
LOL! We're driving back to RI from DC that morning after spending week in Myrtle Beach......I'll have trouble getting rid of her that night.Don't bring her.
In NYC? There's nothing else she could do in Manhattan that night?LOL! We're driving back to RI from DC that morning after spending week in Myrtle Beach......I'll have trouble getting rid of her that night.
Alone? While I attend a draft? I don't know if that was sarcasm but no she wouldn't. I look at it this way too.....I'm being selfish in that the only chance I'll be able to be engaged with what's going on that night due to our travel schedule is by being there.In NYC? There's nothing else she could do in Manhattan that night?
Invitation hasn't come in yet but I remain hopeful...Alone? While I attend a draft? I don't know if that was sarcasm but no she wouldn't. I look at it this way too.....I'm being selfish in that the only chance I'll be able to be engaged with what's going on that night due to our travel schedule is by being there.
BSF, are you going this year too?
I don't understand the author's assertion that Bamba's has an absurdly high floor to ceiling volatility......I feel he's one of the drafts safe certainties. This isn't Gheorghe Muresan, Milicic or Giannis here........Bamba already has good ball skills, has an above avg IQ, great timing and coordination, he's uniquely fluid for his size (my major tell in a players upside), and most importantly he has a big motor. I have his floor as what Capela is right now, barring injury of course, and his upside a little higher.Give me Mo.
Love the breakdown. Isn't he a poster definition of a lottery pick? Game-changing potential with a floor of... Shawn Bradley? Has anyone compared Mo's foot bone x-rays with Yao Ming's?
Yup. BC grad/fan here. Robinson would be a solid pick for both franchises. He was a good player his first 2 years at BC but he really blossomed last year. He has good form on his jumper, has NBA range, can get to the rim, and is a solid playmaker on the wing. FT shooting has steadily increased every year (64% as frosh and about 80% as Jr). His handle can use some improvement but it's still pretty adequate. I view his athleticism similar to Tatum's - doesn't wow you but then you see him make some impressive plays that kind of surprise you. His real area of weakness is defense and rebounding. He's not very good at it right now but has the size and necessary athleticism to get better. I see his NBA upside as a 7th or 8th man. Not ready to contribute to a team like the Celtics/Warriors right away but after a few months I could see him in the rotation.Any BC fans/observers here with thoughts on Jerome Robinson? In YouTube clips looks like he has a good feel for the game, great nose for the rim, and decent size and toughness for a SG. Good pick for Boston at #27, or GS or #28?
Honestly, I'd take Bamba 1-1, particularly for the Celtics. I haven't seen a college player with his combination of physical skills since David Robinson. Length, coordination, explosiveness, agility, timing - he's a rare dude. He'd give them an immediate answer to Embiid and Le Freak - two players who are going to continue to present problems for Boston. The Celtics didn't have answers for either guy, but the supporting casts were enough to tilt it in Boston's favor. You throw in Bamba and that makes defending the opposing "unicorns" a whole lot easier. Offensively, he has a ways to go, but the shot looks legit. The way he blocks/altars shots and rebounds in traffic, I'm sold.I don't understand the author's assertion that Bamba's has an absurdly high floor to ceiling volatility......I feel he's one of the drafts safe certainties. This isn't Gheorghe Muresan, Milicic or Giannis here........Bamba already has good ball skills, has an above avg IQ, great timing and coordination, he's uniquely fluid for his size (my major tell in a players upside), and most importantly he has a big motor. I have his floor as what Capela is right now, barring injury of course, and his upside a little higher.
You realize that saying Capella is his floor doesn’t mean that he’s as good as Capella is now right?Bamba is a great prospect, but he's already capella now? )
His peak floor is capella now then? I still strongly think that underappreciates capella.You realize that saying Capella is his floor doesn’t mean that he’s as good as Capella is now right?
I like Jackson an awful lot; like you I prefer him to Bagley (Bagley strikes me as an empty stats guy who won't impact wins. But he's definitely talented.) I just think Bamba does everything Jackson does, but with generational length. Bamba is a little older than Jackson and he's raw but I'm betting on the physical tools. The college game isn't suited for a guy like Bamba, but with NBA spacing, I think he'll look better on the offensive end. Defensively, I think he's a RARE dude. His length allows him to play off guys on the perimeter and still disrupt shots, but he can also move his feet.Bamba is a great prospect, but he's already capella now? As a floor? That's too much man, capella has grown in leaps in terms of floor play.
I do think he's going to be an impact defender but I don't think we know if he can handle smaller switches yet. The speed etc bodes well though.
JJJ has the offensive and defensive upside. I'd pick him over Mo all day and twice on Sunday. I'd take both over Bagley.
I am interested in the property who would take him even higher, have you looked at the other prospects or just like Bamba?
If you have looked what makes you think he's a top 3 pick when nearly everyone else doesn't.
And I'm NOT trying to start any fights I'm literally asking if that is a flippant comment (fine) or because you have looked and think everyone else is crazy (which is very interesting)
That's exactly what it means, or what it should mean. As Cheech said, these guys floors are "not in the league."You realize that saying Capella is his floor doesn’t mean that he’s as good as Capella is now right?
Maybe it should mean that, but I think most people understand that guys can be busts and it becomes useless to say one's floor is a complete flame out. I think what the posters means is if Bamba doesnt get to the league and pull a Fultz, then he sees him as a guy that gets to where Capela is.That's exactly what it means, or what it should mean. As Cheech said, these guys floors are "not in the league."
He doesn't though. He sure doesn't shoot like Jackson does (68 FT%, 27.5 3PT% on 1.7 attempts per game vs 80% and 39.6% on 2.7 per game), he doesn't defend the perimeter like Jackson does, and he not nearly the passer that Jackson is (3.6 AST% vs 9.3%). Those three factors are all really important in a modern big. And Bamba's 16 months older, that's pretty significant when evaluating teenagers (though Bamba's not even one of those anymore). So he was putting up better numbers at a significantly younger age, and doing it for a better team. Bamba rebounds better, but that's really about it.I like Jackson an awful lot; like you I prefer him to Bagley (Bagley strikes me as an empty stats guy who won't impact wins. But he's definitely talented.) I just think Bamba does everything Jackson does, but with generational length. Bamba is a little older than Jackson and he's raw but I'm betting on the physical tools. The college game isn't suited for a guy like Bamba, but with NBA spacing, I think he'll look better on the offensive end. Defensively, I think he's a RARE dude. His length allows him to play off guys on the perimeter and still disrupt shots, but he can also move his feet.
I’ve been saying this for a while, if the LA pick had conveyed J-3 would have been at the top of Boston’s wishlist. He’s pretty much the ideal modern big.He doesn't though. He sure doesn't shoot like Jackson does (68 FT%, 27.5 3PT% on 1.7 attempts per game vs 80% and 39.6% on 2.7 per game), he doesn't defend the perimeter like Jackson does, and he not nearly the passer that Jackson is (3.6 AST% vs 9.3%). Those three factors are all really important in a modern big. And Bamba's 16 months older, that's pretty significant when evaluating teenagers (though Bamba's not even one of those anymore). So he was putting up better numbers at a significantly younger age, and doing it for a better team. Bamba rebounds better, but that's really about it.
Bamba's a really good prospect, but I think some people are still sleeping on Jackson. He's a potential franchise changer.
Good post.He doesn't though. He sure doesn't shoot like Jackson does (68 FT%, 27.5 3PT% on 1.7 attempts per game vs 80% and 39.6% on 2.7 per game), he doesn't defend the perimeter like Jackson does, and he not nearly the passer that Jackson is (3.6 AST% vs 9.3%). Those three factors are all really important in a modern big. And Bamba's 16 months older, that's pretty significant when evaluating teenagers (though Bamba's not even one of those anymore). So he was putting up better numbers at a significantly younger age, and doing it for a better team. Bamba rebounds better, but that's really about it.
Bamba's a really good prospect, but I think some people are still sleeping on Jackson. He's a potential franchise changer.
I agree. I think Danny loves guys that scrap with swagger. Plus having guys that can actually score would be nice - I think he's a safe, 7-8th man kinda pick.God, do I hope they get Grayson Allen somehow. Him and Smart on the floor together would be my dream come true. Or maybe a beautiful nightmare. The Beyonce Bros.
As would the current president of Fairfield, a huge Lakers fan.My cousin will go crazy if one of his former students ends up on the Celtics.
Is Carter substantially better defensively than Kadeem Allen? Allen got similar plaudits from Sean Miller a year or two ago.Huggins was quoted in an article that some players are cancelling workouts with teams when they find out Jevon Carter is attending the workout. I wish Carter was 2” taller so he could defend 1’s - 3’s, but still, that dude is going to make some point guards miserable in games next season.
Bamba has shown good form shooting the ball last year. I don't know why some are treating him like he's Chris Dudley or Manute Bol out there. Horford was 21-65 from 3 during his first 8 years in the league followed by two years of solid 35% prior to this years breakout at 43%......his learning curve began at age 29 while Bamba, who attempted 51 last year is beginning his curve at age 19. He even passed the FT% test with a more than respectable 68% from the line as a freshman but more importantly to me is the improvement he showed during the season shooting 61% from the line prior to Jan 1st and 72.6% post-Jan 1st.......while Horford shot 58% from the line as a college freshman and 62% for his college career. As I said, the mechanics are there to support similar growth.....actually better growth for those FT-to-3pt aficionados.The offense will be slower to develop but the video above shows that his form does look pretty good. He'll never be Al Horford out there but there is hope he will develop into a decent 3 point shooter in time.
I will admit to seeing less of Jackson than any or the top guys.....I actually watched more Doncic than him!! (those morning Euro games from bed are a blessing....or not). However I saw many flaws in his game than may translate to future issues moving forward. I'll begin with his BBIQ in particular passing from the high post. His assist numbers are much higher than Mamba's based on how each was utilized in their offense......one must recognize this rather than simply comparing AstRates. Secondly, Jackson was pulled from two of the games I saw while Izzo game him tongue lashing/stares resembling what a coach would do to JaVale McGee.....Jackson screwed up several basic ball rotations by making boneheaded decisions, one specific example that sticks out was what should have been a simply ball rotation to the wing resulted in him forcing an entry pass over a 6-9 defender without the angle to do so as the pass ended up directly in the opponents hands. These are instinctual miscues which is a huge red flag for me. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust or I hate him but there were "things" I saw him doing on the floor that caught my eye.....and not in a positive way. As Jackson gets to the next level the game will be fasting and more instinctual......if he's having problems in college (yes to reiterate I recognize he's a freshman) this is an area that figures to be a concern for him moving forward. He doesn't though. He sure doesn't shoot like Jackson does (68 FT%, 27.5 3PT% on 1.7 attempts per game vs 80% and 39.6% on 2.7 per game), he doesn't defend the perimeter like Jackson does, and he not nearly the passer that Jackson is (3.6 AST% vs 9.3%). Those three factors are all really important in a modern big. And Bamba's 16 months older, that's pretty significant when evaluating teenagers (though Bamba's not even one of those anymore). So he was putting up better numbers at a significantly younger age, and doing it for a better team. Bamba rebounds better, but that's really about it.
Bamba's a really good prospect, but I think some people are still sleeping on Jackson. He's a potential franchise changer.
Yes. Carter was the consensus national DPoY for the past two season. Two time Big 12 DPoYs, 4 Big 12 All-Defense. He's an absolute bull-dog on the ball, and was playing 35 minutes a game often while pressing the opposing point guards for most of that time. He was the heart and soul for one of the best defensive teams in the country. I loved watching him crush people's will to live.Is Carter substantially better defensively than Kadeem Allen? Allen got similar plaudits from Sean Miller a year or two ago.
I never said he's Capela now. Barring injury or any other bizarre happenings, I include team fit and system in this, I feel his floor is that of Capela, a real good complementary big. Let's not take this out of context as Capela looks MUCH better in his role in Houston than what he would be playing for Sacramento.Bamba is a great prospect, but he's already capella now? As a floor? That's too much man, capella has grown in leaps in terms of floor play.
I do think he's going to be an impact defender but I don't think we know if he can handle smaller switches yet. The speed etc bodes well though.
JJJ has the offensive and defensive upside. I'd pick him over Mo all day and twice on Sunday. I'd take both over Bagley.
I am interested in the property who would take him even higher, have you looked at the other prospects or just like Bamba?
If you have looked what makes you think he's a top 3 pick when nearly everyone else doesn't.
And I'm NOT trying to start any fights I'm literally asking if that is a flippant comment (fine) or because you have looked and think everyone else is crazy (which is very interesting)
Sure, but you have to wonder if Shaka Smith isn't using Bamba that way for a reason. If you want apples-to-apples, Jarrett Allen put up significantly better Ast% in the same offense as a freshman center last year. JJJ certainly benefits in terms of opportunity from his role as a stretch 4/5, but there's reason for concern that Bamba might be a black hole on offense.Bamba has shown good form shooting the ball last year. I don't know why some are treating him like he's Chris Dudley or Manute Bol out there. Horford was 21-65 from 3 during his first 8 years in the league followed by two years of solid 35% prior to this years breakout at 43%......his learning curve began at age 29 while Bamba, who attempted 51 last year is beginning his curve at age 19. He even passed the FT% test with a more than respectable 68% from the line as a freshman but more importantly to me is the improvement he showed during the season shooting 61% from the line prior to Jan 1st and 72.6% post-Jan 1st.......while Horford shot 58% from the line as a college freshman and 62% for his college career. As I said, the mechanics are there to support similar growth.....actually better growth for those FT-to-3pt aficionados.
I will admit to seeing less of Jackson than any or the top guys.....I actually watched more Doncic than him!! (those morning Euro games from bed are a blessing....or not). However I saw many flaws in his game than may translate to future issues moving forward. I'll begin with his BBIQ in particular passing from the high post. His assist numbers are much higher than Mamba's based on how each was utilized in their offense......one must recognize this rather than simply comparing AstRates. Secondly, Jackson was pulled from two of the games I saw while Izzo game him tongue lashing/stares resembling what a coach would do to JaVale McGee.....Jackson screwed up several basic ball rotations by making boneheaded decisions, one specific example that sticks out was what should have been a simply ball rotation to the wing resulted in him forcing an entry pass over a 6-9 defender without the angle to do so as the pass ended up directly in the opponents hands. These are instinctual miscues which is a huge red flag for me. I'm not saying he's going to be a bust or I hate him but there were "things" I saw him doing on the floor that caught my eye.....and not in a positive way. As Jackson gets to the next level the game will be fasting and more instinctual......if he's having problems in college (yes to reiterate I recognize he's a freshman) this is an area that figures to be a concern for him moving forward.
I'm not questioning Carter's D, but I question using the pick on him when Allen has a similar role and has shown that he can also score (at least in the D-league). If you knew Smart wasn't coming back, Carter might be more attractive.Yes. Carter was the consensus national DPoY for the past two season. Two time Big 12 DPoYs, 4 Big 12 All-Defense. He's an absolute bull-dog on the ball, and was playing 35 minutes a game often while pressing the opposing point guards for most of that time. He was the heart and soul for one of the best defensive teams in the country. I loved watching him crush people's will to live.
Allen didn't get any formal recognition for his defense in college.
Huggins is pumping up his guy, like Miller was, but Carter's D is absolutely legit. I can see why agents wouldn't want their guys going up against him. Carter's probably not a first rounder due to his lack of length and athleticism, but I'd be really surprised if he doesn't have a long career as someone who can run a second unit and be a situational lock-down menace.
Your question was literally "Is Carter substantially better defensively than Kadeem Allen?" The answer to that is, by all indications, "yes". The post you initially responded to didn't advocate for the Celtics drafting him. Given Ainge's preference for length and athleticism, I'd be surprised if they do. He strong, smart, tough as hell and can knock down open shots, but not nearly as switchable as Smart. Derek Fisher is the comp that everyone seems to throw around for him. If they do draft him, Marcus should start looking for a real estate agent.I'm not questioning Carter's D, but I question using the pick on him when Allen has a similar role and has shown that he can also score .
Preston doesnt even appear in the ringer draft guide. I wonder if we could nab him with a purchased second rounder?I'm not questioning Carter's D, but I question using the pick on him when Allen has a similar role and has shown that he can also score (at least in the D-league). If you knew Smart wasn't coming back, Carter might be more attractive.
Grayson Allen's agent is obviously pimping him (big article in today's Globe), but of the guys the Celtics worked out the other day, the one that caught my eye was Billy Preston, who was an automobile accident away from being the best player at Kansas since Joel Embiid. No one was hurt in that accident, but I guess the NCAA had a bunch of questions as to how he got the car, so he was forced to sit out pending the results of an investigation.
The knock on Preston in AAU ball was that he loafed on defense, but he's 6-10 and has all the physical tools, so maybe that can be addressed.
As would the current president of Fairfield, a huge Lakers fan.
Nothin’ from nothin’ leaves nothin’...Preston doesnt even appear in the ringer draft guide. I wonder if we could nab him with a purchased second rounder?