Sorry but what exactly is offensive about this?They are who we thought they were.
https://deadspin.com/barstool-sports-stooges-try-to-explain-why-corey-lewand-1827035909
Sorry but what exactly is offensive about this?They are who we thought they were.
https://deadspin.com/barstool-sports-stooges-try-to-explain-why-corey-lewand-1827035909
They do not get any benefit of the doubt here. They thought it was funny because a guy made fun of someone with Down's Syndrome. They think it should be OK to do so. Thinking otherwise is blindly ignoring their whole history.Yes that one. I agree with the reasoning. It's an awful thing to say and comical in an absurdist way.
Right because Lewandowski was going for yucks.Yes that one. I agree with the reasoning. It's an awful thing to say and comical in an absurdist way.
Well it's pretty clear Lewandowski is going for yucks, especially given the context in which most times "Womp, womp" is used as a phrase. That or he wanted to bring up the losing horn on a game show. Who goes for yucks in a situation like this unless you have something seriously wrong with you? That is what makes it absurd and comical in a "laughing at you" instead of "laughing with you". Which is pretty much exactly what he said and I agree with.Right because Lewandowski was going for yucks.
"I know that your mom just died of cancer, but the way she made that weird face right before her last breath left her ... PRICELESS! So comical. So absurdist! Like Monty Python, only real life."
That seems to be in contrast with the below. Which you conveniently left out because it has been clear you have an agenda you are peddling, one that I don't necessarily disagree with for certain people there, namely Portnoy. And was the question I asked and you ignored to get on your soapbox and make a broader point around some POV you are thrusting on me as my own POV.They do not get any benefit of the doubt here. They thought it was funny because a guy made fun of someone with Down's Syndrome. They think it should be OK to do so. Thinking otherwise is blindly ignoring their whole history.
So at best, two out of the three guys are assholes? Great.Well it's pretty clear Lewandowski is going for yucks. Who goes for yucks in a situation like this unless you have something seriously wrong with you? That is what makes it absurd and comical in a "laughing at you" instead of "laughing with you". Which is pretty much exactly what he said and I agree with.
I don't share that view because I don't believe that Lewandowski is stupid. Or that he misspoke. Or that he made a verbal gaffe. I think that he knew exactly what he was doing and then one of his goals is to muddy the waters by making people argue about his intentions of speech were (sorta like what we're doing now), not what he was saying.It's laughing at stupid people. You do not share that view and that appears to be that.
He is stupid because he is an asshole without a degree of sympathy towards others and is using a one liner as a means to make a political point and rile people up. It's strategic but still stupid. There are multiple definitions of stupid, you have decided to narrowly define the one I used above in a way that my post is clearly not intended for.I don't share that view because I don't believe that Lewandowski is stupid. Or that he misspoke. Or that he made a verbal gaffe. I think that he knew exactly what he was doing and then one of his goals is to muddy the waters by making people argue about his intentions of speech were (sorta like what we're doing now), not what he was saying.
It's obvious that we aren't on the same page as each other, but you shouldn't underestimate Lewandowski and laugh at what the clown said. That's how we got into this whole stupid mess in the first place.
"Ha! Trump said Mexico is going to pay for a border wall! What a clown!"
"What a goof! Trump just called Marco Rubio, Little Marco!"
Etc.
In no way, shape or form were Dave, Riggs, or Dan laughing at children being forcibly removed from their parents. They were not “laughing at the destruction of Latino families.” They were laughing at the evil Nazi asshole who moronically said “womp womp” upon hearing about a Down Syndrome child who was taken away from her mother. They were laughing at how completely inappropriate and ridiculous it was that he said that. They were laughing at the absurdity of the response.
I didn’t think it was funny.
As a first-generation Mexican-American, it’s a subject that is very personal to me. I am extremely proud of my heritage, my family, where we came from, and the struggle to get to where we are. Naturally, watching human beings (who in this case happen to be Mexican) treated like trash is absolutely heartbreaking. We are all a product of our past- it frames our mindsets, principles, and yes, our humor.
While I didn’t agree with their laughter, I understand where it was coming from, and it was NOT a place of deeply rooted racism. Latinos are not a “sideshow” to them. We are not “something to be laughed at or mocked.” Dave didn’t “put me on the spot,” he gave me the opportunity to speak my truth, whether he agreed with it or not. I chose to be there, I chose to give my opinion, and I’m proud I did.
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Should we have maybe avoided talking about this subject altogether? Probably. We aren’t a serious political network, and this particular subject is extremely delicate, rightfully so.
Be more wrong, you can't.They do not get any benefit of the doubt here. They thought it was funny because a guy made fun of someone with Down's Syndrome. They think it should be OK to do so. Thinking otherwise is blindly ignoring their whole history.
But what about outrage?This isn’t CNN Guys. This is what Barstool does. There’s plenty of outlets for serious news. They were mocking Lewandowski / laughing at him.
It’s clearly not marketed to you two.
Terry and Mickstape are a perfect combination.Rozier's first appearance on Mickstape last week was alright but a little off because they were in 3 different places. His appearance Thursday was excellent. He discussed his entire draft experience and they asked fun questions about the process. It also helped they were all together so they could play off each other. Highly recommended.
I don’t think JMOH is confused about markets so much as he is arguing it would be a better world if there were no market for it whatsoever.This isn’t CNN Guys. This is what Barstool does. There’s plenty of outlets for serious news. They were mocking Lewandowski / laughing at him.
It’s clearly not marketed to you two.
Why? They were mocking this idiot. If you want to be fake outraged go do it at Lewandowski not the people ripping him. Unless that point sailed over your head.I don’t think JMOH is confused about markets so much as he is arguing it would be a better world if there were no market for it whatsoever.
"To drop a 'Womp Womp' right there was so awesome."Why? They were mocking this idiot. If you want to be fake outraged go do it at Lewandowski not the people ripping him. Unless that point sailed over your head.
Or....don’t watch.
I don’t think anything sailed over MY head...Why? They were mocking this idiot. If you want to be fake outraged go do it at Lewandowski not the people ripping him. Unless that point sailed over your head.
Or....don’t watch.
Your defense of bro culture reminds me of the time we had people trying to defend using the word "fag" because, to them, it wasn't homophobic or even anti-gay. It was making fun of people who, you know, "act like fags."Why? They were mocking this idiot. If you want to be fake outraged go do it at Lewandowski not the people ripping him. Unless that point sailed over your head.
Or....don’t watch.
Then stop reading this thread.Good lord guys. This is what they do. Like it or not. Watch or don’t. Nobody cares. They’re not going to change. I’m not one who gets offended by every little thing and generally find them funny.
I really don’t give a shit if you guys like them or not, I’m just sick of the outrage when that’s the schtick. Trump is ruining everyone’s brain. We’ve had huge asshole presidents before and we will have them again (and I am anti-Trump), but people were in cages at the border when Obama was President too.
Sorry I’ll allow the echo chamber to carry on. My bad.Then stop reading this thread.
Womp womp.Sorry I’ll allow the echo chamber to carry on. My bad.
I’ve never been offended by anything either. It’s pretty awesome.Weird. I’m not offended.
I don't listen. But I read about it. Sorry, but "it's their shtick" is not some sort of magic shield against criticism.Good lord guys. This is what they do. Like it or not. Watch or don’t. Nobody cares. They’re not going to change. I’m not one who gets offended by every little thing and generally find them funny.
I really don’t give a shit if you guys like them or not, I’m just sick of the outrage when that’s the schtick. Trump is ruining everyone’s brain. We’ve had huge asshole presidents before and we will have them again (and I am anti-Trump), but people were in cages at the border when Obama was President too.
Lol what’s that now? They were mocking a guy we can all agree is an idiot. I’m offended now that you called me Irish and will now sulk.I think it might be valuable for everyone involved to press a little bit on why Irish Riviera sox fan thinks some peoples response is not genuine but rather a shtick.
Right, I get you have a different opinion of the situation. But why do you think anyone with a different take is being insincere?Lol what’s that now? They were mocking a guy we can all agree is an idiot. I’m offended now that you called me Irish and will now sulk.
Lol I have the fake outrage? I love this site. It’s really the best. They mocked a dumb comment. Idk what else to tell you guys but feel free to carry on. I will vacate the echo chamber and you can all sing kumbaya together and hate the “bro” culture (who has a female CEO and no #MeToo issues on their ledger btw)!Baghdad Bob, as an example, was funny because he was similarly evil and regressive but he was losing. That was the point. He couldn't help saying absurdly stupid things but the mechanism by which we found humor in it was that it was in the face of the annihilation of his evil.
Corey Lewandowski speaks for the leader of the free world. That's why it isn't funny. It being offensive or not is irrelevant; it is definitionally not funny. I get they're laughing because he said the meanest thing at the worst time or whatever post-hoc broshit they're inventing. I totally understand that. It isn't funny.
But we're all free to have shit taste, and so goes Bartstool Sports.
I could just do with a little less fake outrage from @southshoresoxfan if at all possible. Do you just want to be mad?
I wasn’t saying anyone here’s reply was a schtick. I’m saying this is Barstool’s schtick. Make fun of everyone equally. They’ve been doing it (successfully) for a long time now.Right, I get you have a different opinion of the situation. But why do you think anyone with a different take is being insincere?
Ah, that makes more sense. But saying "its their shtick" while true is really a non sequitur. We can debate the merits of the shtick itself, no? Like if some guys "shtick" was making sexist jokes, ok maybe its less bad if they don't truly believe that stuff. But it kay still be a shitty shtick to have no?I wasn’t saying anyone here’s reply was a schtick. I’m saying this is Barstool’s schtick. Make fun of everyone equally. They’ve been doing it (successfully) for a long time now.
That’s fine. And a different discussion. But they make fun of the left, the right, men, women, etc pretty equally. They certainly skew towards a white male 21-35 audience, but that doesn’t make them bad, it makes them good business people.Ah, that makes more sense. But saying "its their shtick" while true is really a non sequitur. We can debate the merits of the shtick itself, no? Like if some guys "shtick" was making sexist jokes, ok maybe its less bad if they don't truly believe that stuff. But it kay still be a shitty shtick to have no?
What are we rethinking though? This has been them since Day 1. That’s my confusion I guess. It’s like diving into the ocean and being mad you got wet.Is it a different discussion though? I mean the thread title is called "rethinking barstool". Seems within scope
Just because no one on their roster has been accused of sexual assault doesn't mean they aren't complicit in the activities that made the #MeToo movement necessary.Lol I have the fake outrage? I love this site. It’s really the best. They mocked a dumb comment. Idk what else to tell you guys but feel free to carry on. I will vacate the echo chamber and you can all sing kumbaya together and hate the “bro” culture (who has a female CEO and no #MeToo issues on their ledger btw)!
So I just want to make sure I've got this right--your outrage is real, but anyone not buying the fratbro nonsense on laughing at proxies for our government mocking a kid with Downs syndrome is "fake"? And that anyone disagreeing is "outraged," but you being outraged at the "fake" outrage isn't outrage. Are you beginning to see how stupid it is to even go there?Lol I have the fake outrage?
Well as long as they make fun of men equally, they’re good.That’s fine. And a different discussion. But they make fun of the left, the right, men, women, etc pretty equally. They certainly skew towards a white male 21-35 audience, but that doesn’t make them bad, it makes them good business people.
Lol I am not outraged. At all. I’m genuinely perplexed why you think you’d be getting a different type of humor from Barstool than you’re getting. They laughed AT THE GUY WHO MOCKED THE KID because it was so ridiculous. Holy shit. For a “smart” website there’s a lot of people who don’t have much common sense.So I just want to make sure I've got this right--your outrage is real, but anyone not buying the fratbro nonsense on laughing at proxies for our government mocking a kid with Downs syndrome is "fake"? And that anyone disagreeing is "outraged," but you being outraged at the "fake" outrage isn't outrage. Are you beginning to see how stupid it is to even go there?
It isn't funny. I do agree that that is what Barstool does and that lots of people like that.
Glad you agree finally.Well as long as they make fun of men equally, they’re good.
You are outraged. As much or more than the people you're pinning outrage on. Maybe we can stop with the "outrage" stuff now that we've probed how stupid it is as a rhetorical device?Lol I am not outraged. At all. I’m genuinely perplexed why you think you’d be getting a different type of humor from Barstool than you’re getting. They laughed AT THE GUY WHO MOCKED THE KID because it was so ridiculous. Holy shit. For a “smart” website there’s a lot of people who don’t have much common sense.
I mean, an article from 2012 that references an incident from 2010 doesn't exactly make the point you think you're making.Just because no one on their roster has been accused of sexual assault doesn't mean they aren't complicit in the activities that made the #MeToo movement necessary.
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1293328
Took 8 seconds to Google. If you do the same you will also find many stories of similar behavior and posts.
For some reason, you can't seem to fathom that other people can both understand that some people have a different sense of humor and also think that it's a bad thing.Lol I am not outraged. At all. I’m genuinely perplexed why you think you’d be getting a different type of humor from Barstool than you’re getting. They laughed AT THE GUY WHO MOCKED THE KID because it was so ridiculous. Holy shit. For a “smart” website there’s a lot of people who don’t have much common sense.
You mean where a minority of people try to believe they are superior to a bunch of other people who just don't get it?This place has turned into South Parks Prius episode. Good for you!!
Are the people who said that women deserved to be raped still on the payroll? Is he not still the Pres? Read my post again. That shit was acceptable to say in 2010. It's part of what made the #MeToo movement necessary... Would you disagree?I mean, an article from 2012 that references an incident from 2010 doesn't exactly make the point you think you're making.
The company (much like this website) has grown significantly since then. Do they still have some meatheads who occasionally say stupid things there? Yup. But to lump the entire organization under one banner makes no more sense than assuming everyone here is like or condones Plympton 91.