LeSean McCoy goes full Ray Rice

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It's just starting to hit the national media. My guess is that the method of communicating the allegation (through social media rather than through police charges) has folks scrambling to see what they can confirm before they publish anything.

As you say, if that's legit, he's done. And hopefully under arrest.
 

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A graphic instagram post contains some very damning accusations including a photo of the brutal assault on his girlfriend, as well as accusations be beat his dog into kidney failure.

If these photos are true, he's done.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DhwKrW2XcAElXOi.jpg:large
Holy crap. if this has any truth to it, i hope he doesn't just get banned from the NFL, I hope he gets significant jail time.
 

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Not excusing Rice at all but the picture and what’s described in that post goes far beyond what he did. Shady is an absolute monster if even half of that is true.
Yup. What Ray Rice did is so clearly wrong in every way. If the McCoy allegations are true then he's a monster who needs to be permanently removed from society.

More importantly, that link isn't porn but it may be NSFW
 

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Isn’t McCoy the one who threw club parties where only women were invited and were only admitted based on what they were wearing? It was his buds and hundreds of women and the stories that came from those were awful.

This is next level awful
 

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McCoy denies, says he hasn't associated with the principals in months. That should be pretty easy to test or prove one way or the other. It's a pretty specific denial, so if a picture surfaces with him and the woman that was obviously taken very recently he's in a bit of trouble.

 

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It will be an effective lifetime ban, whether Goodell imposes it or not, if it’s true.

But be careful with the IF. We’ve just been through Reuben Foster.
 

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It will be an effective lifetime ban, whether Goodell imposes it or not, if it’s true.

But be careful with the IF. We’ve just been through Reuben Foster.
Oh, I agree.

It’s a very curiois way to make an allegation. That doesn’t make it untrue. But it does merit confirmation.

No middle ground here. He’s either a monster or someone has gone to extreme (almost unbelievable) lengths to set him up.
 

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The if is important. And of course how these allegations are treated is also really important and it can be a tough line to walk. These high profile cases send a pretty vivid signal to other women who might come forward.

I think at this point, there is still some room for skepticism given that it doesn’t seem to be the victim herself making any claims yet. Obviously, if she authorized her friend to do this, then it’s effectively the same thing.

My antenna are a bit up on this one. It’s such a perfect trifecta of Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson and Michael Vick, that it does make you wonder a little bit. It’s a struggle balancing that skepticism with not wanting to dissuade this kind of reporting. Unfortunately, NFL investigation teams have neither the grace nor subtlety to navigate these kinds of complicated issues.
 

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Obviously the "if" stands but this guy has had numerous run-in's before that he's escaped punishment for. The Philly bar brawl in 2016 where he got sued by the off-duty cops who say he beat them badly is the biggest one by far. His infamous 20 cent tip war with the restaurant in Philly. Neither of those are near the degree of this allegation but lots of smoke with this guy.

Of course, none of this approaches possibly knowing about the Ideal Gas Law so 3 games max.
 

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The if is important. And of course how these allegations are treated is also really important and it can be a tough line to walk. These high profile cases send a pretty vivid signal to other women who might come forward.

I think at this point, there is still some room for skepticism given that it doesn’t seem to be the victim herself making any claims yet. Obviously, if she authorized her friend to do this, then it’s effectively the same thing.

My antenna are a bit up on this one. It’s such a perfect trifecta of Ray Rice, Adrian Peterson and Michael Vick, that it does make you wonder a little bit. It’s a struggle balancing that skepticism with not wanting to dissuade this kind of reporting. Unfortunately, NFL investigation teams have neither the grace nor subtlety to navigate these kinds of complicated issues.
The bolded is true. At the same time, it's not hard to imagine that anyone who can beat a woman like that also has it in him to kick his dog and beat his child.
 

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Well one thing is for sure: either McCoy or the woman who posted this photo -- if she lied -- should go to jail.
 

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Obviously the "if" stands but this guy has had numerous run-in's before that he's escaped punishment for. The Philly bar brawl in 2016 where he got sued by the off-duty cops who say he beat them badly is the biggest one by far. His infamous 20 cent tip war with the restaurant in Philly. Neither of those are near the degree of this allegation but lots of smoke with this guy.

Of course, none of this approaches possibly knowing about the Ideal Gas Law so 3 games max.
As someone who has served before - fuck that guy for life regardless of his guilt or innocence.
 

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This is from TMZ. Sounds like there were ongoing legal matters between the two that had reached a boiling point.

Officials tell TMZ Sports ... EMTs responded to a home near Delicia's address early Monday morning. There are only 3 houses on her block. They would not reveal details about the situation.

We've learned LeSean and Delicia have had a contentious relationship for a while -- according to docs obtained by TMZ Sports, McCoy went to court in June seeking to get a judge's order forcing to her to move out of a home he owns in Alpharetta, Georgia.

In court docs, McCoy wrote ... "Defendant is ex-girlfriend of owner/plaintiff and refuses to leave."

He also wanted the judge to force Delicia to return all of his items that were in her possession.

In fact, the two sides were scheduled to appear in court on the matter TODAY -- but it might get pushed due to a medical emergency involving a member of her lawyer's family.

THERE'S MORE ...

According to court docs obtained by TMZ Sports, Delicia told the court McCoy had discussed marriage with her back on May 28 and gave her a "substantial gift."

She says he then left on May 30 to attend OTAs. She left town the next day for a graduation in Virginia.

The next day, while she was gone, Delicia claims LeSean had some of his friends, family members and other crew remove her furniture and furnishings without her knowledge.

When she saw things going down on a live security cam feed, she immediately called police and they stopped McCoy's people from hauling her stuff away.

In court docs, Delicia says LeSean cut the electricity to her place ... and things have been nasty ever since.
http://www.tmz.com/2018/07/10/lesean-mccoy-investiagtion-domestic-violence-attack/
 

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Well one thing is for sure: either McCoy or the woman who posted this photo -- if she lied -- should go to jail.
Could also be a different perpetrator with the same victim with an ignorant BFF.

But whoever did that to the person pictured should be in jail.
 

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Starting to be a fair amount of confirmation.

It appears they were indeed in a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship. She may have been living in his house as recently as six weeks ago with her stuff there. And it got very contentious recently. And there is litigation. And she has been severely beaten.

The idea that someone else assaulted her like that starts to get a bit more difficult, at least in terms of common sense.
 

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I'm willing to wait and see how this plays out, especially since the statement did not come from the gf in the photo (it looks like it came from a friend of hers), but I'm having a difficult time believing she went all "Scorpio trying to frame Dirty Harry Shady."

Also, is it strange to anyone else that McCoy's statement made no reference to the apparent condition of the girl in the photo? If I had an Ex that was beaten to that extent by someone else, I would like to think I would be a little more empathetic (or shocked or outraged). His statement basically reads "Whatever, it wasn't me."
 

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Maybe one of McCoy's posse did the dirty work. He travels in a pack, as evidenced by the brawl he and his pals got into with a couple of off-duty Philly cops, in the first offseason after his trade. Charges were eventually dropped. But the cops sued.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/two-police-officers-hospitalized-in-bar-fight-sue-bills-lesean-mccoy/
I mean, this is a little harsh don't you think? He "travels in a pack", or he was at a club with his friends? He may be a scumbag and if he did this then I hope he rots in prison, but this particular incident wasn't even brought forward by the prosecution. There's no good reason to lay the fault of the fight at the McCoy side any more so than the off duty police officers side.
 

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I'm willing to wait and see how this plays out, especially since the statement did not come from the gf in the photo (it looks like it came from a friend of hers), but I'm having a difficult time believing she went all "Scorpio trying to frame Dirty Harry Shady."

Also, is it strange to anyone else that McCoy's statement made no reference to the apparent condition of the girl in the photo? If I had an Ex that was beaten to that extent by someone else, I would like to think I would be a little more empathetic (or shocked or outraged). His statement basically reads "Whatever, it wasn't me."
It was a very poorly executed attempt at spin.

"I have not seen her" ...leaves wide open possibility he paid someone else

This is going to be a situation where the Bills need to suspend him pending an investigation. NFL will wait until the law enforcement investigation is complete before doing anything
 

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Also, is it strange to anyone else that McCoy's statement made no reference to the apparent condition of the girl in the photo? If I had an Ex that was beaten to that extent by someone else, I would like to think I would be a little more empathetic (or shocked or outraged). His statement basically reads "Whatever, it wasn't me."
To play devil’s advocate, they obviously are in a very contentious situation right now. On top of that, she (via best friend proxy) just falsely accused him of beating her to a pulp in addition to some other serious transgressions in a very public manner. It wouldn’t be unnatural for hatred to overcome whatever feelings had remained.
 

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To play devil’s advocate, they obviously are in a very contentious situation right now. On top of that, she (via best friend proxy) just falsely accused him of beating her to a pulp in addition to some other serious transgressions. It wouldn’t be unnatural for hatred to overcome whatever feelings had remained.
To say she falsely accused him is a bridge way too far. If she is accusing him of orchestrating it, he is still resobnsible
 

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To say she falsely accused him is a bridge way too far. If she is accusing him of orchestrating it, he is still resobnsible
I thought the question at hand was, would he respond that way if he were completely innocent? And I was talking the position of him being innocent in my hypothetical.
 

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I mean, this is a little harsh don't you think? He "travels in a pack", or he was at a club with his friends? He may be a scumbag and if he did this then I hope he rots in prison, but this particular incident wasn't even brought forward by the prosecution. There's no good reason to lay the fault of the fight at the McCoy side any more so than the off duty police officers side.
There's a lot more to this story than the story I linked. McCoy sucker punched one of the cops. The police were very upset when charges were dropped. And I should have used the word "entourage" instead of pack.
 

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I think that it is clear that this warrants a serious investigation by law enforcement. I also think that any conclusions, regardless of the allegations or McCoy's past, are premature. There is obviously a lot of emotion involved as well, and that can cloud people's judgement and cause them to make rash and incorrect decisions and accusations. I'm not saying that anyone specifically is wrong, but that anyone could be wrong, and the investigation by professionals will help establish what actually happened and who was involved. I think the conclusions that matter are theirs.
 

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I think that it is clear that this warrants a serious investigation by law enforcement. I also think that any conclusions, regardless of the allegations or McCoy's past, are premature. There is obviously a lot of emotion involved as well, and that can cloud people's judgement and cause them to make rash and incorrect decisions and accusations. I'm not saying that anyone specifically is wrong, but that anyone could be wrong, and the investigation by professionals will help establish what actually happened and who was involved. I think the conclusions that matter are theirs.
They have the benefit of the offseason. So the Bills need to come out and say he is barred from team activites until the investigation happens. Doesnt miss games, may not even miss practices depending how long it takes. Allows them to do the "right" thing without really taking an on the field hit. If investigation shows nothing, he plays. If its confirmed, they cut him
 

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Reporting on this continues to be sketchy, but the Instagram post where the allegations first appeared has been deleted and the account of McCoy’s (former) girlfriend has been switched to “private.”

A few sources reporting this but Deadspin appears to have the most detail. (Which is very little.)

https://deadspin.com/lesean-mccoy-accused-of-domestic-violence-denies-accus-1827481658

This is going to be a situation where the Bills need to suspend him pending an investigation. NFL will wait until the law enforcement investigation is complete before doing anything
A law enforcement investigation appears to have been promoted by the Instagram post:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theblast.com/lesean-mccoy-assault-allegation-police-investigation-milton/amp/

That last link (which I found just a minute ago) contains much greater detail and includes content from a social media post from another friend of the woman accusing McCoy of sending people to the house to pistol-whip the woman.
 
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Lets see what happens. Maybe he’s innocent. But if he’s found responsible he needs to miss about 5-10 years.
 

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“The cops released a statement saying it wasn't a random attack on LeSean McCoy's Ex-GF Delicia Cordon. The key phrasing was the intruders asked for specific items in the home, and they wouldn't have that info if it random robbery per cops”
 

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I'm going well past the facts as we know them, but there's a really interesting law school criminal law kind of aspect to all this based on the most recent information.

Seems to me that if there's a home intrusion involved that is going to be a very serious felony. More serious -- in terms of punishment -- than a battery without that aspect. Like major hard time, I think.

We'd need RR, I think, but it's potentially complicated. If he sent someone into his own house, where she was living, to beat her up, I'm not sure that rises to the level of the very serious aggravated burglary charges.

But, so imagine this scenario. These aren't likely to be super sophisticated criminals. Maybe she got a look at the guy. Imagine they find him and she identifies him. He may have a massive incentive to flip on McCoy if McCoy set it up. If you conspired with someone to go into his own house and beat someone up, it's going to be a signfiicant crime, but probably not nearly as significant as if you stay quiet and take the rap for a burglary with serious bodily harm.
 

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Should we start a separate thread on who will be the Bills starting RB the first 2-3 games of the year?

If he is involved, he should never play another down and will hopefully do significant jail time. Those are horrifying pictures.
 

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Should we start a separate thread on who will be the Bills starting RB the first 2-3 games of the year?

If he is involved, he should never play another down and will hopefully do significant jail time. Those are horrifying pictures.
If he is involved, he’ll do a lot of time. OJ was sent away for something like 20 years for a similar case (paroled after 9, I believe) and no one was hurt.

A home invasion with a robbery used as cover to pistol whip his ex-GF may land him in jail for decades.

Allegedly.
 

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The one thing that I found a bit sketchy about her post is that he didn't just beat her, but also his dogs and kids and oh also did steroids. It's like a laundry list of the worst things you can do as a person and especially as an NFL player. Maybe (probably?) he truly is a monster, but that's a lot. Ugh.
 

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The one thing that I found a bit sketchy about her post is that he didn't just beat her, but also his dogs and kids and oh also did steroids. It's like a laundry list of the worst things you can do as a person and especially as an NFL player. Maybe (probably?) he truly is a monster, but that's a lot. Ugh.
I didnt find it sketchy. It seemed to me like someone had plenty of dirt on another person and wanted to air every last piece of it. I'm sure theres no proof for the majority of it, but you cant put that genie back in the bottle.
 

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I didnt find it sketchy. It seemed to me like someone had plenty of dirt on another person and wanted to air every last piece of it. I'm sure theres no proof for the majority of it, but you cant put that genie back in the bottle.
That's totally fair and I know accusers are almost always not lying. Hopefully justice is served.