With Smith here, does that put any of the young wingers on the trade block to open up cap space for Hall?
Yeah with the money they have they can sign him, but they need to replace Krug, sign or replace Chara, and sign Grz.They have $12 million in space. They can still sign Hall. If they do, DeBrusk probably goes for a LHD.
If they signed Hall they would probably trade some combo of Moore, Bjork, Ritchie, maybe DeBrusk to free up space and/or replace Krug.Yeah with the money they have they can sign him, but they need to replace Krug, sign or replace Chara, and sign Grz.
Who would you target as a LD? Gustafsson?If they signed Hall they would probably trade some combo of Moore, Bjork, Ritchie, maybe DeBrusk to free up space and/or replace Krug.
They wouldn't give Petro a NMC. Different beast as you can't waive a NMC and you have to protect it in any expansion draft. No movement clauses are much more restrictive.Interestingly one of the two sticking points with Pietrangelo was apparently that they would not give him a NTC...suprised they gave one the Krug. Years 3-5 are going to hurt if he starts to lose a step.
You’re either switching McAvoy to the left side or trading Carlo to make room for a right shot.Pietrangelo would be a much better get for this team than Hall. I'm not understanding Sweeney's plan/approach right now.
I don't agree. Carlo can switch.You’re either switching McAvoy to the left side or trading Carlo to make room for a right shot.
Studnicka is the 2/3c in 21-22’. So that is an easy no.AZs starting point ask for OEL was Studnicka. The click you heard was Sweeney hanging up. View: https://twitter.com/markdivver/status/1314983415972868096?s=21
2015?Studnicka is the 2/3c in 21-22’. So that is an easy no.
I feel like Hall is coming here. In that 2015 draft, there were rumors of him wanting to be a Bruin
I would have rather been a Bruin instead of an Oiler in 2010 as well. In 2020 with 31 teams to chose from, he’ll probably go with the team that gives him the most money. And it’ll probably be a contract that the Bruins should avoid.Not even a typo! Just a brain cramp. 2010!
Agree with your overall point, the dollar$ are always (usually) #1.I would have rather been a Bruin instead of an Oiler in 2010 as well. In 2020 with 31 teams to chose from, he’ll probably go with the team that gives him the most money. And it’ll probably be a contract that the Bruins should avoid.
I have it on good authority that you are exaggerating this claim and you actually enjoy putting on your best flannel and 3/4 boots while taking instagram worthy photos at the Big Apple.There were some rumors that appeared to suggest Mike Hoffman as a consolation prize to Hall yesterday. Dom Tiano seems to know who they are targeting, and suggested it was a good prize, but not THE prize. Also suggested the Bruins may have circled back to Hall with more term.
I just keep refreshing Twitter, especially because I am going to be dragged apple picking today.
Sources can confirm I do not own a Flannel anything or a 3/4 boot. They can also confirm we are in active negotiations to avoid said apple picking. Sources Do not expect a deal to be reached prior to kickoff today.I have it on good authority that you are exaggerating this claim and you actually enjoy putting on your best flannel and 3/4 boots while taking instagram worthy photos at the Big Apple.
I was dragged last week. The key is to go right when the place opens and home by 10 or 11.There were some rumors that appeared to suggest Mike Hoffman as a consolation prize to Hall yesterday. Dom Tiano seems to know who they are targeting, and suggested it was a good prize, but not THE prize. Also suggested the Bruins may have circled back to Hall with more term.
I just keep refreshing Twitter, especially because I am going to be dragged apple picking today.
We don't know what teams are involved, but the Avs would certainly pose a threat. They are kind of similar to the Bruins. In Boston, Hall would fit in on the 2nd line playing with Krejci. In Colorado, he'd go to the 2nd line with Kadri. The Avs play a more up tempo skilled game than the Bruins which could be appealing and the Avs core is obviously younger than the Bruins so they are more entering their window than having it close. Cap wise. the Saad trade brings the Avs down to $9.9 million in space with 17 players signed. The remaining RFA's are Jost, Namestnikov and Ryan Graves on the back end. They could fit Hall in for a year, but next offseason they have big ticket items in Makar and Landeskog to take care of so that could be a squeeze.Agree with your overall point, the dollar$ are always (usually) #1.
At the draft there was talk about how his favorite player was Bobby Orr and how he liked the Bruins style of hockey. We will see.
I do think Colorado has a nice situation for him if he fits capwise as they extend people.
If they get Hall, a forward for Martinez or Schmidt would make sense.Speaking of Vegas, they might be a spot for an LHD. They have $1.8 million in cap space and would obviously need to move some serious money if they land Pietrangelo. Nate Schmidt and Alec Martinez are 2 LHD that could be on the move. Schmidt has 5 years left at $5.9 AAV, Martinez is entering the final year of his deal at a $4 million cap hit..
I heard that the draw for Hall was:If that's at all accurate. it's a nice spot for the Bruins. Nashville is a draw though,
I'm guessing Boston wasn't willing to offer the long term contract Hall wanted, so it went to Plan B. It's still strange that Boston wasn't even in the running for the one-year deal.I heard that the draw for Hall was:
1) playing with Eichel and ability to put up points
2) Chance to get contract next offseason
3) ability to choose destination/avoid expansion draft; supposedly this was a significant factor
I was wrong about the Bruins being a draw it seems.
This isn’t a fair reading of what happened. Hall was offered a few long term deals, an alleged three year deal from the Bruins.... and signed a one year deal with Buffalo.I'm guessing Boston wasn't willing to offer the long term contract Hall wanted, so it went to Plan B. It's still strange that Boston wasn't even in the running for the one-year deal.
Is there any confirmation this was the highest one year offer for Hall? If so, I find that a little weird, but he must really believe the offers will be better next year.Adrian Dater says the Avs offered Hall a 1 year, $6.5 million offer and got turned down. It looks like Hall's motivation was to get the most money on a 1-year contract and get back on the market this coming summer. He chose a situation where he'd be playing with somebody in Eichel who will help him put up big numbers.
View: https://twitter.com/adater/status/1315464154120024064
No confirmation that this is the highest 1 year offer, but you would have to assume it is. Just looking at the Bruins cap situation and roster, I find it hard to believe that they offered $8 million or higher. I bet their offer was for more years, but less AAV.Is there any confirmation this was the highest one year offer for Hall? If so, I find that a little weird, but he must really believe the offers will be better next year.
Seems hopeful to me when you choose Buffalo, and the strangeness of this year, but hey maybe this is 3D chess on his part.
I don’t think they could give him $10 million, resign Grzelcyk, then sign DeBrusk or trade him for a LHD that makes $4 million. I bet they offered him 2 years @ about $5 million AAV.I don’t understand why the Bruins wouldn’t offer even 1/10 or more unless they thought making him the highest paid player would create locker room issues? I mean, they have cap space.
They have 11M in cap space with Gryz and Debrusk left to sign. You can call that 6M, but it’s closer to 10M if they hadn’t signed Smith.I don’t think they could give him $10 million, resign Grzelcyk, then sign DeBrusk or trade him for a LHD that makes $4 million. I bet they offered him 2 years @ about $5 million AAV.
I was referring to the cap space that they presently have after the Smith signing. And if you hadn’t signed Smith and gave Hall ten million, how are you paying Grzelcyk and DeBrusk (or his trade return)? I’m not interested in trading them for picks/prospects.They have 11M in cap space with Gryz and Debrusk left to sign. You can call that 6M, but it’s closer to 10M if they hadn’t signed Smith.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/bruins
This. Disappointed we couldn't work something out with Hall and Sweeney now needs to get creative to upgrade the roster. I like both the Smith and Miller signings but we need to do more.The Bruins are still very deep in GFIN mode to trade DeBrusk and especially Grzelcyk for picks. And with Krug gone, they can't really afford to lose Grzelcyk.
It's always the one risk with free agents; they can sign anywhere, and so it's easy to end up the 2nd place team. Throwing $10M at Hall doesn't seem like it would have been the best use of resources. The trade market is still open, so we'll see what happens.
The problem is that no one is taking money on right now. Teams don’t seem to want DeBrusk at the $4 million he’s probably looking at on his RFA deal.This. Disappointed we couldn't work something out with Hall and Sweeney now needs to get creative to upgrade the roster. I like both the Smith and Miller signings but we need to do more.
This is where I am as well. I want to see if one of Vaakanainen or Zboril can take that left D spot on the third pair. I want to see if Studnicka or Frederic can play center in a bottom 6 role.I would love to see the team just go with what they have and assess at the trade deadline. If they are out of it, trade Krejci and others and go into 2021 with tons of cap room and good draft picks.
Build around the young guys.
Are you doing a disservice to the veteran core for not doing more than they've done to this point? Or is this the end of the road, they've had their chances, and Sweeney feels like they can't mortgage any kind of future parts for a run at a Cup?This is where I am as well. I want to see if one of Vaakanainen or Zboril can take that left D spot on the third pair. I want to see if Studnicka or Frederic can play center in a bottom 6 role.
It’s really their only option given the financial situation of the league. They have to move money to bring in another impact veteran, and nobody is willing to take on money. Next year when Krejci and Rask’s deals are up they have more options.Are you doing a disservice to the veteran core for not doing more than they've done to this point? Or is this the end of the road, they've had their chances, and Sweeney feels like they can't mortgage any kind of future parts for a run at a Cup?
The team traded away 2 recent first round draft picks without a whole lot to show (although maybe Kase turns into something for them). McAvoy (2022) and Carlo (2021) will turn RFA in a couple of years. Both goalies are in the final years of their contracts, with one likely and one possibly retiring after their current contracts are up. And the vaccine calendar is not really working in the league's favor for 2021.Are you doing a disservice to the veteran core for not doing more than they've done to this point? Or is this the end of the road, they've had their chances, and Sweeney feels like they can't mortgage any kind of future parts for a run at a Cup?
Perhaps post-COVID (we pray) next year he perceives that the market will loosen up even more. And/or there's a winning team he really wants to play for, but got the news that they won't have cap space and will not clear cap space until next year (admitted long shot). Going to a poorly run team means he may be able to focus on offense and not worry so much about playing D.This isn’t a fair reading of what happened. Hall was offered a few long term deals, an alleged three year deal from the Bruins.... and signed a one year deal with Buffalo.
The issue here is not the offer with the Bruins, but a perplexing decision by Hall to join a poorly run franchise with only two real viable players and no real shot at the playoffs even with Hall. And not only that, but a one year deal that is likely less per year than what was offered to him.
Very strange decision.