Lazar is fantastic.Especially since Perry was all over the signings as being close to desperate.
Trustworthy local guys are who? Lazar, Curran, Reiss, Kyed, Daniels, and (still) Howe?
Lazar is fantastic.Especially since Perry was all over the signings as being close to desperate.
Trustworthy local guys are who? Lazar, Curran, Reiss, Kyed, Daniels, and (still) Howe?
Absolutely at the top of the food chain & by more than a few links.Lazar is fantastic.
For me, Curran is off the list. He just is not very insightful and definitely just tries to generate clicks at this point. The fact he is on with Florio quite a bit sealed it for me.Especially since Perry was all over the signings as being close to desperate.
Trustworthy local guys are who? Lazar, Curran, Reiss, Kyed, Daniels, and (still) Howe?
Curran used to be great. Now he's super hot-takey and pretty much takes the negativity road whenever he can. I echo everyone else that Lazar is probably the best right now. Comes out with legitimate insight and his opinions seem to be without bias. It seems like these guys should be focusing their energy on the draft if they really want to discuss quarterbacks but obviously that isn't how it works.For me, Curran is off the list. He just is not very insightful and definitely just tries to generate clicks at this point. The fact he is on with Florio quite a bit sealed it for me.
There’s currently 3 lawsuits filed and the promise of 3 more on the way. Have to think the NFL will get involved soon with their own investigation, which may well lead to a suspension.Right or wrong, I don’t think the Watson allegations make a difference in how NFL teams deal with him. There are about 25 fan bases that would be overjoyed to have him, and there don’t seem to be any serious criminal law involvement.
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Disagree. Even if there is no criminal case (which we don't know yet), the league could still hit him with a huge suspension and there could be very significant pressure to cut ties with the player depending on how things shake out. Who is going to trade three or four 1st round picks for a guy that could end up suspended for a year?Right or wrong, I don’t think the Watson allegations make a difference in how NFL teams deal with him. There are about 25 fan bases that would be overjoyed to have him, and there don’t seem to be any serious criminal law involvement.
Like Pando1967 this does seem like BB has built a whole team designed for a cam Newton or other mobile qb to win with now. Given how few holes the team has other than behind center it seems to me like he might be getting ready to trade for a fields or lance who could take over as a qb from Newton and play a similar style.
Jameis basically signed the Cam contract with the Saints (except slightly higher guarantees & slightly less incentives).I think BB is the king of keeping all options open for leverage. He's adding draft capital for a potential trade up and simultaneously keeping track of the trade/FA market. The FA market isn't exciting, but BB should be able to add a decent backup for cheap if he wants (Mitchy, Jameis (maybe depending on NOLA), or an older journeyman).
In the meantime, he's built and continues to add to what should be a monster of a team.
Particularly in this market. The Globe would literally be exhaling flames. Can you imagine Renee Graham’s next column? The Patriots signing him while these charges are in the air would be the NFL equivalent of Jamestown.There’s currently 3 lawsuits filed and the promise of 3 more on the way. Have to think the NFL will get involved soon with their own investigation, which may well lead to a suspension.
Teams aren’t going to make a move for Watson when it seems like there are so many more shoes waiting to drop.
Huh, Sportrac still has him listed as a FA. Mea culpa.Jameis basically signed the Cam contract with the Saints (except slightly higher guarantees & slightly less incentives).
As a thinking feeling human being I hope you're right, as an NFL prognosticator I'm sticking to my guns. I think Chicago does the trade in a second. I think Carolina does it in a second. I think Miami does it in a second. Honestly, kraft does it in two seconds.Disagree. Even if there is no criminal case (which we don't know yet), the league could still hit him with a huge suspension and there could be very significant pressure to cut ties with the player depending on how things shake out. Who is going to trade three or four 1st round picks for a guy that could end up suspended for a year?
You may be right.As a thinking feeling human being I hope you're right, as an NFL prognosticator I'm sticking to my guns. I think Chicago does the trade in a second. I think Carolina does it in a second. I think Miami does it in a second. Honestly, kraft does it in two seconds.
I still kind of like Curran but he is/was so far up Brady's ass you would think he worked for TB12.Curran used to be great. Now he's super hot-takey and pretty much takes the negativity road whenever he can. I echo everyone else that Lazar is probably the best right now. Comes out with legitimate insight and his opinions seem to be without bias. It seems like these guys should be focusing their energy on the draft if they really want to discuss quarterbacks but obviously that isn't how it works.
Well, it’s not like Kraft has any experience with legal issues centered around massages...As a thinking feeling human being I hope you're right, as an NFL prognosticator I'm sticking to my guns. I think Chicago does the trade in a second. I think Carolina does it in a second. I think Miami does it in a second. Honestly, kraft does it in two seconds.
Kraft might not due to the near certainty of a two year suspension for Watson. But other teams don't live with that fear. I agree that Chicago might make the same offer for Watson that they did for Wilson. I also suspect that all these lawsuits will make him a bit more flexible with the NTC.As a thinking feeling human being I hope you're right, as an NFL prognosticator I'm sticking to my guns. I think Chicago does the trade in a second. I think Carolina does it in a second. I think Miami does it in a second. Honestly, kraft does it in two seconds.
I think that New England trades up for Lance (or Fields, which is my hope) and that the Niners end up with Mac Jones.CBS's latest mock has QBs going 1-3, then Lance at #12 to SF and Jones at #15 to Patriots.
Again, I don’t see any evidence to support your speculation. Substantial degree? Like adding, say, JC Jackson above a Pats offer that’s already MORE than any other offer? Maybe, but I doubt it.“Do you mean you think the Pats will have to pay a premium over any other team to get Watson? If so, I don't see why that's true. Caserio? I just don't know and don't see any evidence for it.”
Isn't that a problem? If there's already significant resistance to trading Watson, any deal with his former colleagues will be looked at with heightened suspicion, leading to the conclusion that the Patriots offer must irrefutably be the best by a substantial degree.
I don't read everything he puts out, but I usually enjoy Hurley's stuff... he doesn't seem overly hot takey, but I only interact with his columns not any radio or tv spots he does as I am not in the Boston media market.Lazar is fantastic.
But does BB do it?As a thinking feeling human being I hope you're right, as an NFL prognosticator I'm sticking to my guns. I think Chicago does the trade in a second. I think Carolina does it in a second. I think Miami does it in a second. Honestly, kraft does it in two seconds.
I could imagine BB avoiding it because he's worried about the downside risk of (in his mind) an unfair NFL penalty, especially if Watson were a patriot, but I think otherwise he wouldn't give a fuck. Per the recent Dynasty book, BB only reluctantly waived Antonio Brown and that was for pretty similar allegations from an already sketchy guy with a side of witness intimidation.But does BB do it?
He has talked about coaching players he likes, amd he had to deal with the whole Hernandez nightmare. Watson isn’t exactly accused of murder, but still...BB (as the GM and the coach), having just assembled an extremely promising roster, might not want to risk all of those chess moves on a piece that might get suspended, be arrested, or otherwise feel the effects of multiple sexual assault lawsuits.
I think he’s a huge upgrade. When he’s protected, Carr is a very good QB. But I doubt the Raiders have any incentive or desire to trade him.1. How much of an upgrade would Derek Carr be over Cam?
2. What's a reasonable trade that the Pats could offer that the Raiders would likely accept?
3. Would you want to make that trade?
Would you do NE's 2021 and 2022 first round picks for Carr?I think he’s a huge upgrade. When he’s protected, Carr is a very good QB. But I doubt the Raiders have any incentive or desire to trade him.
I’d imagine the Stafford deal is a starting point (two firsts).
I'd rather try to move up for Lance or Fields to have a QB from this class on a rookie contract given the price it would likely take to get Carr.Would you do NE's 2021 and 2022 first round picks for Carr?
Depending on the starter, I would do it in a second for Fields.Three firsts, a second, and a starter for a pick in the 4-7 range seems mind-bogglingly absurd.
I'd do it in a second but for Wilson. Fields' tendency to hold on to the ball really scares me with that kind of an investment.Depending on the starter, I would do it in a second for Fields.
There's a part of me that thinks Belichick just sits back and lets these storylines unfold and, while everyone gets caught up in the "Patriots want JG back" narrative, he's keeping his actual intent between him and ErnieSF says we love our $26m QB and BB can't have him!
"Report: 49ers won't discuss Jimmy G trade with Patriots"
https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/nfl-rumors-49ers-wont-discuss-jimmy-garoppolo-trade-patriots
I forgot he had another year at $27m to the 49ers or $25.6m to us on his contract when making this post.Jimmy G is fun & all, but I can't see giving up significant assets to try to figure out how to free up $25m under the cap for his current contract, nor do I have much excitement about the idea of giving him a big extension to lower his cap # for this year.
Also don't see much point for the 49ers to trade him for minimal assets when he's their only starting QB & they'd likely be eligible for a reasonable comp pick if they let him walk after the year, or be able to tag him in some form.
See to me, this team screams for a mobile QB. lots of 12, a strong O-line and a burner deep threat. That's exactly how you build a team around a big mobile QB. You're constantly creating mismatches with the thread of a Cam run behind 7 good blockers, you have the type of pass catchers that have done well with Cam in the past in big mobile TEs and deep shots.I'm going to take a contrarian view. I still believe Jimmy G is the target, with a Mills or Monds or one of the second tier quarterbacks drafted and seasoned for a couple years with the hope they succeed Jimmy G down the road.
This team is built to win now. And the offense is built for power running and someone who can manage the game, make the short and intermediate throws, and minimize risk. This, to me, screams Jimmy G and not Cam, and not a rookie.
He's really only played 1 season as a starter in his career.I forgot he had another year at $27m to the 49ers or $25.6m to us on his contract when making this post.
Doesn't change much for me in terms of trade not making much sense for either side.
Weird Stat - Jimmy G has only thrown for more than 7 TDs in a season once in his career.
That's kind of my point. Heading into his age 30 season, he's been the presumptive starter for 4 games for the Patriots in 2016 & 4 seasons with the 49ers, & of those 68 games he has started 32 of them, including 16 in 2019.He's really only played 1 season as a starter in his career.