View: https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1418397197457108997?s=21For the record, Matt Judon said he’s vaccinated.
View: https://twitter.com/man_dammn/status/1418397197457108997?s=21For the record, Matt Judon said he’s vaccinated.
In that case, as others have said, totally get his position being pissed at the union. Glad to hear he’s got it
Yup. That's a trash deal to potentially go unpaid for someone else's decision regarding the vaccine. Either the NFL comes down with the law or just establishes different guidelines regarding the procedures unvaccinated players have to go through and make it their choice, these halfway measures seem like they are trying to make the players themselves enforce the behavior they want.In that case, as others have said, totally get his position being pissed at the union. Glad to hear he’s got it
In other contexts, a/k/a dividing the Union.Yup. That's a trash deal to potentially go unpaid for someone else's decision regarding the vaccine. Either the NFL comes down with the law or just establishes different guidelines regarding the procedures unvaccinated players have to go through and make it their choice, these halfway measures seem like they are trying to make the players themselves enforce the behavior they want.
Correct, but why should vaccinated players be penalized for the actions of unvaxx'ed players in a different team? The NFLPA agreed to it, so cannot really blame Goodell. But the union probably should have fought this one a bit harder.For those suggesting that the "non offending team" get paid - where exactly is the money supposed to come from? You aren't going to fine the "offending team" so high that it would make up the amounts. Its simply lost revenue to everyone.
The bulk of the money would come from the exact same place it does now, the TV deal. Teams aren't paying weekly salaries out of game-day revenues, and a single cancelled game wouldn't effect the TV deal.For those suggesting that the "non offending team" get paid - where exactly is the money supposed to come from? You aren't going to fine the "offending team" so high that it would make up the amounts. Its simply lost revenue to everyone.
Is the NFL forcing the forfeit teams to also forfeit their share of the TV money? I always thought it was a league-wide deal, so presumably teams will continue to get TV money even if they weren't playing.For those suggesting that the "non offending team" get paid - where exactly is the money supposed to come from? You aren't going to fine the "offending team" so high that it would make up the amounts. Its simply lost revenue to everyone.
Exactly. If I'm on a team with a high vaccination rate and my opponent's team has the problem, I'd be livid if my income was lowered because of the actions of people I have absolutely no impact on.Correct, but why should vaccinated players be penalized for the actions of unvaxx'ed players in a different team? The NFLPA agreed to it, so cannot really blame Goodell. But the union probably should have fought this one a bit harder.
If the offending team was on the hook for playing the salaries of all vaccinated players on their team, as well as for those on the opposing team, teams would be even more likely to tell their players to get vaxxed or turn in the playbook.
Advertises might, sure. But the NFL just signed a new long term deal with networks in March, so I don't think the fear of covid cancellations was weighing too heavily: https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-announces-new-broadcast-deals-running-through-2033-seasonWhat makes us think TV and advertisers haven't renegotiated their agreement with the NFL, and that the "TV Money" is still the same and isn't contingent on the games being played?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/nfl-ratings-drop-leaves-networks-scrambling-to-make-advertisers-whole-11607781600
https://www.wsj.com/articles/advertisers-seek-right-to-cancel-tv-spending-as-pandemic-roils-fall-season-11599072109
Interesting. Twitterer said "refused to." Linked ESPN story squib says "chose not to." I prefer the former.View: https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1418628745049493508
I bet this isn’t going to be the first.
Good, there needs to be more of this. Coaches are management. Management has a responsibility to set an example and lead. There's nothing more important than protecting the health and safety of those one leads, and this guy couldn't be bothered to do that.View: https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1418628745049493508
I bet this isn’t going to be the first.
Salary Cap is a revenue split. They could deduct the amount of paid salaries from the pool that sets the salary cap for the next year. There is wayyyy too much revenue generated by the NFL to justify taking gamechecks from players that did nothing wrong. If you wanted to have some level of equity for lost revenue than the players could get 50% of game checks. The 50% checks could come from the owner of the team the forfeited so all the impact is felt by the team that caused the issue. IMO, the players absolutely have reason to be pissed at the union.For those suggesting that the "non offending team" get paid - where exactly is the money supposed to come from? You aren't going to fine the "offending team" so high that it would make up the amounts. Its simply lost revenue to everyone.
I suspect this is more just harsh memo language, we will see if it ever gets enacted in the way it is outlined here.Salary Cap is a revenue split. They could deduct the amount of paid salaries from the pool that sets the salary cap for the next year. There is wayyyy too much revenue generated by the NFL to justify taking gamechecks from players that did nothing wrong. If you wanted to have some level of equity for lost revenue than the players could get 50% of game checks. The 50% checks could come from the owner of the team the forfeited so all the impact is felt by the team that caused the issue. IMO, the players absolutely have reason to be pissed at the union.
View: https://twitter.com/CourtneyRCronin/status/1418628745049493508
I bet this isn’t going to be the first.
Not a fan of its usage, but Oxford has now listed it as an accepted "non-standard" alternative to "regardless".Irregardless? Say it ain't so, Joe!
Haha, that was some emotional turmoil! From "this guy gets it" to "oh no, not that English faux pas" in one sentence.Irregardless? Say it ain't so, Joe!
My working assumption is that teams will keep 16-player practice squads at the ready. A team subject to a CoVid outbreak among unvaccinated players is going to do everything under the sun to ensure the game gets played, even if it means going in with a crappy game day roster.I suspect this is more just harsh memo language, we will see if it ever gets enacted in the way it is outlined here.
Labor needs to feel some of the pain if revenue is lost because labor won't get vaccinated. If the NFLPA wants to fight for its players they should mandate vaccines for members.
Can’t imagine he’s accepting the risk for a guy who he thinks is replaceable.Good. Wonder if that mean BB has drawn a line in the sand.
I would rather lose and get paid than lose and not get paid for sureMy working assumption is that teams will keep 16-player practice squads at the ready. A team subject to a CoVid outbreak among unvaccinated players is going to do everything under the sun to ensure the game gets played, even if it means going in with a crappy game day roster.
Irregardless of his use of that word, it's a pretty good statement. However, getting the vaccine (aside from medical reasons) is 100% under the control of each player and he seems to imply it is not.
Knowing what two of my former players went thru to get into service academies, I'm willing to cut him a bit of slack on this.Irregardless? Say it ain't so, Joe!
I read it at him saying that whether or not a player gets vaccinated, a breakout among his unvaccinated teammates could lead to him losing a game check.Irregardless of his use of that word, it's a pretty good statement. However, getting the vaccine (aside from medical reasons) is 100% under the control of each player and he seems to imply it is not.
A player has no control if a member of the coaching or training staff of an opposing team refuses the vaccine. And even that could theoretically cause a player to lose their paycheck for a game. I can fully understand players being upset about that.Irregardless of his use of that word, it's a pretty good statement. However, getting the vaccine (aside from medical reasons) is 100% under the control of each player and he seems to imply it is not.
Can‘t be around the players if you aren’t vaxxed. Therefore, you can’t “Do Your Job”. I can’t picture what an incredulous Coach Bill might look like, but I imagine he’s thinking, “You’re a 36YO up and coming coach. Are you fucking kidding me?”Reiss:
Patriots co-OL coach Cole Popovich won’t be with the team in 2021 in a decision related to the COVID-19 vaccine and NFL guidelines, per league sources.
@globejimmcbride 1st reported Popovich won’t be with the team.
Carmen Bricillo, co-OL coach in ‘20, takes on leading role.
Revenge is like serving cold cuts, indeed.Not a fan of its usage, but Oxford has now listed it as an accepted "non-standard" alternative to "regardless".
Thank you, Tony Soprano...
Not important? Someone with dead relatives should take "not important" and ram it up his ass.Dak with the MTG Defense:
View: https://twitter.com/gehlkennfl/status/1418659121688047616?s=10
I think he is saying that the question is not important, not the vaccineNot important? Someone with dead relatives should take "not important" and ram it up his ass.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31869652/rick-dennison-minnesota-vikings-assistant-refusing-covid-19-vaccine-sources-sayThe vaccine is required for all Tier 1 staff, including coaches, front-office executives, equipment managers and scouts. Players are not required to receive the COVID-19 vaccine but will face strict protocols during training camp and throughout the season that vaccinated players will be able to forgo.
In a memo released by the league this summer, the NFL said any unvaccinated Tier 1 staff member must provide a valid religious or medical reason for not receiving the vaccine. Losing Tier 1 status prohibits coaches from being on the field and in meeting rooms and having direct interactions with players.
I doubt there is one for individual games, they would just get a different game.The TV deal doesn't have a claw back agreement for games cancelled? There has to be some offset language in the event that a game is not played.
Other than Strength and conditioning coaches O-Line coaches are exactly who I would expect.Pats are in now. Another O-Line coach?
View: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1418660817759784970
Probably that you are a member of a religion with an established opposition to these types of treatments, so Christian Scientist, etc.I’m curious as to what a valid religious reason is other than saying “it’s against my religion”
I assume it’s one that you didn’t just find this summer as wellI doubt there is one for individual games, they would just get a different game.
Other than Strength and conditioning coaches O-Line coaches are exactly who I would expect.
Probably that you are a member of a religion with an established opposition to these types of treatments, so Christian Scientist, etc.
depends, but yeah, the whole "church of vaccine oppositions est. 2021" probably won't fly.I assume it’s one that you didn’t just find this summer as well
That is not what HIPAA is dumbass.Dak with the MTG Defense:
View: https://twitter.com/gehlkennfl/status/1418659121688047616?s=10
You think offensive line coaches are more likely to be dumb meatheads than other position coaches?Other than Strength and conditioning coaches O-Line coaches are exactly who I would expect.
Yeah if you’ve been fine getting toradol shots all this while and suddenly discover an opposition to the Covid vaccine it’s going to be hard to say you’ve got a valid religious reasonProbably that you are a member of a religion with an established opposition to these types of treatments, so Christian Scientist, etc.
I miss the days when the biggest common misconception about HIPAA was the spelling.That is not what HIPAA is dumbass.
God, that just annoys me.
It's not up to me to correctly parse the verbal diarrhea of someone subverting efforts to combat a public health crisis.I think he is saying that the question is not important, not the vaccine