I think being 6'0" and 195# had a lot to do with it.Could someone explain the negative aspects of this guy from a scouting perspective? Like, any glaring limitations or deficiency? From a super small school with poor competition? After the success of Edelman I would have thought any qb with intriguing traits like this would at least have been scooped up by someone with a 6th or 7th round pick.
Sorry if this has been explained already, I scanned the thread and didn't see it.
throwing 70 picks in college with a pretty low yards per attempt average doesn't help. i haven't watched him enough to have an informed opinion but lots of accuracy issues on easy throws as well apparently. here's hoping he proves the haters wrong and is awesome!I think being 6'0" and 195# had a lot to do with it.
70 TD's, 29 picksthrowing 70 picks in college with a pretty low yards per attempt average doesn't help. i haven't watched him enough to have an informed opinion but lots of accuracy issues on easy throws as well apparently. here's hoping he proves the haters wrong and is awesome!
He threw 70 TDs vs 29 picks for his collegiate career, though your point about low ypa is not wrong.throwing 70 picks in college with a pretty low yards per attempt average doesn't help. i haven't watched him enough to have an informed opinion but lots of accuracy issues on easy throws as well apparently. here's hoping he proves the haters wrong and is awesome!
Well shows what i get for looking at the wrong column. maybe the first clue i was wrong should have been 70 PICKS70 TD's, 29 picks
(which is still a lot of picks)
The fact that you didn't bat an eye at that number, though, speaks volumes. He threw a lot of picks.Well shows what i get for looking at the wrong column. maybe the first clue i was wrong should have been 70 PICKS
Thanks for the defense and he throws a lot of picks but still my post was absolutely idiotic.The fact that you didn't bat an eye at that number, though, speaks volumes. He threw a lot of picks.
Also, if he's intended to be a WR/QB who is used situationally at QB, the arm is less of an issue.The downfall with Cunningham is whether his arm can be NFL-caliber in terms of accuracy and if he can run more of a pro-style offense. However, if BOB is installing more and more RPO and other elements of a spread-style offense then his transition to the NFL can be easier. We obviously have to see him against 1st team defenses, but the first look at him was very positive. That throw to Tre Nixon in the end zone was an absolute dime.
Exactly. Edelman doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, but he threw a pretty nice ball to Amendola against the Ravens in the playoffs. Cunningham would be great for trick plays like that, but of course, he actually probably could do more than that too.Also, if he's intended to be a WR/QB who is used situationally at QB, the arm is less of an issue.
Right. Meyers has a couple of TD passes, too. But Cunningham seems like a guy who could be a change of pace QB for the occasional series, which neither Meyers nor Edelman ever did.Exactly. Edelman doesn't have an NFL caliber arm, but he threw a pretty nice ball to Amendola against the Ravens in the playoffs. Cunningham would be great for trick plays like that, but of course, he actually probably could do more than that too.
Yup. Giving defenses another thing to worry about is always a good thing.Right. Meyers has a couple of TD passes, too. But Cunningham seems like a guy who could be a change of pace QB for the occasional series, which neither Meyers nor Edelman ever did.
He’s no Mac Jones, I’ll say that much. ;-)He threw a lot of picks.
My recollection was that Tebow had neither the willingness nor the acumen to play other positions. From what I've read, at least that does not seem to be a problem with Cunningham.At this point tho, it’s not clear this is any more than when Bill gave Tebow a cursory look in 2013. I’m as excited as anyone but let’s wait to see another preseason game or two from Cunningham and, perhaps more importantly how he does in joint practices before we dream too hard on the guy.
Mine is the former, not the latter. I'm not sure that he ever tried playing another skill position, although he definitely was asked.My recollection was that Tebow had neither the willingness nor the acumen to play other positions. From what I've read, at least that does not seem to be a problem with Cunningham.
Bill basically ran that offense with Cam Newton, as much as we'd like to forget that season. The designed runs for Cunningham looked a lot like the plays they ran for Cam. I think Bill is on top of these developments, he just hasn't had the right personnel to pull it off.Yeah, I was talking about Tebow at QB which Bill def. explored, including most of the final preseason game that year (which I went to). He just wasn’t dynamic enough in the NFL to be a Hill-type guy you bring in for goal line situations – esp. w Brady under center.
I agree that the Edelman comparison isn’t really apt with Cunningham. For one, Edelman was never contemplated as a QB as far as I know. Secondly, the game has changed a ton since 2009. For instance, and to @BaseballJones ‘ point, the mobile quarterback creates space for the RB in today’s game.
Again, I think it’s worth pumping the brakes a bit with Cunningham – both because it’s early but also because Belichick has yet to have really shown he’s interested in this kind of offense. As always I’m mostly intrigued to see what Bill does.