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Fantastic content thank you for sharing!!
Yeah, having a high upside rookie QB just makes so much of a difference. We can actually dream of becoming contenders again, and a guy like Mac honestly never gave me that feeling as I knew even in the best of outcomes a ton of other stuff had to break just right.I have to say my experience with BB made me skeptical of the draft picks. Combined with the requirement that they "preserve" the dynasty I had a hardened view.
I am excited about the clean slate, which allows me to dream about the Bledsoe rebuilding: start the season 1-10 but at that point Maye takes a spot and throws to binkies Polk and Baker (Ben Coates) behind rookie linemen Robinson and Wallace.
Sure, I have no personal knowledge of any of these guys, and the odds are against this. But I'm dreaming.
I have a feeling that in addition to American football they also are huge fans of American wrestling.These international fans sure do love to shout.
And better yet, a 1-10 start, and maybe a couple Drake Maye "close but lose it" games, means a 3-14 record, and another top end set of picks to add to this one.Yeah, having a high upside rookie QB just makes so much of a difference. We can actually dream of becoming contenders again, and a guy like Mac honestly never gave me that feeling as I knew even in the best of outcomes a ton of other stuff had to break just right.
The sub forum in the post Belichick era may have to be changed from “Wait, Who??” to “Meh, Him”.Hey a punter was picked and it wasn’t the Pats - progress!!!
As long as they are entertaining and bad I’m fine for a year or two. The last two years were boring and bad and not building to anything which sucked.And better yet, a 1-10 start, and maybe a couple Drake Maye "close but lose it" games, means a 3-14 record, and another top end set of picks to add to this one.
That last game of 1993 with Bledsoe vs Miami was the highlight of my 11 year old life. Who cares what the record was. That was awesome and to end the year like that ruled.Feeling similar. Dreaming is fun ! Not as fun as playing in the Super Bowl every other year but still fun!
And it really didn't affect anything draft wise. They still got Willie McGinest at 4 where Marshall Faulk went two to the Colts who finished one game worse than the Patriots. Don't think Parcells would have taken a running back at number 2 if they were in that spot.That last game of 1993 with Bledsoe vs Miami was the highlight of my 11 year old life. Who cares what the record was. That was awesome and to end the year like that ruled.
Agree, no chance.And it really didn't affect anything draft wise. They still got Willie McGinest at 4 where Marshall Faulk went two to the Colts who finished one game worse than the Patriots. Don't think Parcells would have taken a running back at number 2 if they were in that spot.
I wonder if the Krafts are trying to get the draft to Boston. Interesting see where the hell they would put it? Boston Common or City Hall Plaza? Hard to think where they could even fit that many people.I can’t believe how many people are there for Day 3 of the draft.
Yeah where they had the first Pats celebration.I wonder if the Krafts are trying to get the draft to Boston. Interesting see where the hell they would put it? Boston Common or City Hall Plaza? Hard to think where they could even fit that many people.
Make them run the 40 in pads.
Here or in Detroit?I can’t believe how many people are there for Day 3 of the draft.
Gillette Parking lot 22/23I wonder if the Krafts are trying to get the draft to Boston. Interesting see where the hell they would put it? Boston Common or City Hall Plaza? Hard to think where they could even fit that many people.
When I hear this i always think of the Dominick Easley pick. It was a great gamble for the Pats IMO. Top 5 guy drops to the end of the first round and Pats take a shot at it because they can. He ends up busting and they win 3 more Super Bowls. People think he was an awful pick but it was worth the gamble.Picking "high ceiling, low floor" guys is fine for good-to-great teams. But the Pats on offense were a complete dumpster fire last season. Accordingly, it appears the front office decided to focus on "better than 2023" for QB, WR, and OL. How much better remains to be seen, but the strategy feels right to me.
A few that come to mind…This is an interesting data point. Beyond Marino (0-1), Kelly (0-4, Tarkenton (0-3) and Moon (n/a, but 5 Grey Cups), who are the "great quarterbacks" who never won a Super Bowl?
Det is an awesome sports town - seems like it’s been a great event. I love that it’s made the city look more appealing. Site looks awesome. I love a good comebackI can’t believe how many people are there for Day 3 of the draft.
Maybe they could have won 4 or 5 if they hit on itWhen I hear this i always think of the Dominick Easley pick. It was a great gamble for the Pats IMO. Top 5 guy drops to the end of the first round and Pats take a shot at it because they can. He ends up busting and they win 3 more Super Bowls. People think he was an awful pick but it was worth the gamble.
I think it's totally the opposite. Good to great teams need to compete now and need certainty. We don't need to compete now. Drafting like this is a great idea if we have the burning desire to go 7-10 instead of 5-12 or 4-13Picking "high ceiling, low floor" guys is fine for good-to-great teams. But the Pats on offense were a complete dumpster fire last season. Accordingly, it appears the front office decided to focus on "better than 2023" for QB, WR, and OL. How much better remains to be seen, but the strategy feels right to me.
plus, our first pick is a high ceiling low floor guy - I would think regardless of where your team is, you kind of want a portfolio theory approach…some high risk/beta guys (maye) and some higher floor plays…you need a mixPicking "high ceiling, low floor" guys is fine for good-to-great teams. But the Pats on offense were a complete dumpster fire last season. Accordingly, it appears the front office decided to focus on "better than 2023" for QB, WR, and OL. How much better remains to be seen, but the strategy feels right to me.
My dislike is less for the low ceiling thing (though I don't like it) and more for the fact that it felt like they forced WR and LT. We picked the 10th WR when the 3rd CB and 2nd DT was on the board who are widely viewed as impact players. Reiss said that people around the league (not just media scouts) think Polk was a clear reach.plus, our first pick is a high ceiling low floor guy - I would think regardless of where your team is, you kind of want a portfolio theory approach…some high risk/beta guys (maye) and some higher floor plays…you need a mix
maybe they swing for some high ceiling guys late
Think of it this way: They made a huge investment at 3 with Maye. They have next to nothing in terms of offensive infrastructure right now. The line sucks, the WRs suck, the TEs are old and not very explosive... it's going to be very hard for Maye to do much if no one outside of Pop Douglas can get open.I think it's totally the opposite. Good to great teams need to compete now and need certainty. We don't need to compete now. Drafting like this is a great idea if we have the burning desire to go 7-10 instead of 5-12 or 4-13
Excellent post. Well articulated.Think of it this way: They made a huge investment at 3 with Maye. They have next to nothing in terms of offensive infrastructure right now. The line sucks, the WRs suck, the TEs are old and not very explosive... it's going to be very hard for Maye to do much if no one outside of Pop Douglas can get open.
So rather than draft players with high risk profiles who could bust - Adonai, for example - they went with players who we can say with confidence won't bust. There's now something of a foundation in place for Maye, when he starts, with two security blanket receivers in Pop and Polk who find holes in zones and then a different kind of threat in Baker. Are they going to be the best, most explosive offense in the NFL? Probably not even close. Could they possibly be competent? Maybe, and that's a huge step up from last year.
Once they're competent, that's when you try to go next level and upgrade to maybe trade for that #1 receiver (or sign them in FA with all your cap space), or trade up for the all pro potential left tackle, or a jack of all trades tight end. If you take those huge swings now and then those players suck, then you still have Kendrick Bourne as your #1 option and no additional depth.
This offense needs to crawl before walking, and I love the patience they're showing to uncover multiple ways to get new blood into the lineup.
They might not make the team we drafted OT at 11 and have 2 young guys likely better than what we can get here. We could use a G or C but will probably keep a C cheap that is an in house FAShouldn’t the jets be stockpiling o linemen?
Excellent analysis. I am in this boat as well. Baby steps is the way to go. Building a base is way more important than trying for a home run on every pick.Think of it this way: They made a huge investment at 3 with Maye. They have next to nothing in terms of offensive infrastructure right now. The line sucks, the WRs suck, the TEs are old and not very explosive... it's going to be very hard for Maye to do much if no one outside of Pop Douglas can get open.
So rather than draft players with high risk profiles who could bust - Adonai, for example - they went with players who we can say with confidence won't bust. There's now something of a foundation in place for Maye, when he starts, with two security blanket receivers in Pop and Polk who find holes in zones and then a different kind of threat in Baker. Are they going to be the best, most explosive offense in the NFL? Probably not even close. Could they possibly be competent? Maybe, and that's a huge step up from last year.
Once they're competent, that's when you try to go next level and upgrade to maybe trade for that #1 receiver (or sign them in FA with all your cap space), or trade up for the all pro potential left tackle, or a jack of all trades tight end. If you take those huge swings now and then those players suck, then you still have Kendrick Bourne as your #1 option and no additional depth.
This offense needs to crawl before walking, and I love the patience they're showing to uncover multiple ways to get new blood into the lineup.
Yup. I like him better than the 2 TE’s drafted ahead of himWiley is going to be the next great TE for Mahomes and KC. Between him and Worthy, KC is just reloading. Kinda aggravating actually.
fair. Of course pats may have him as the #6 wr on their boardMy dislike is less for the low ceiling thing (though I don't like it) and more for the fact that it felt like they forced WR and LT. We picked the 10th WR when the 3rd CB and 2nd DT was on the board who are widely viewed as impact players. Reiss said that people around the league (not just media scouts) think Polk was a clear reach.
Yeah he seems pretty solid. Honestly think this is a decent TE class.Yup. I like him better than the 2 TE’s drafted ahead of him
There’s also the fact that the game is actually played on the field. The point isn’t to simply acquire the best talent regardless of fit or need, but to field a competitive team. Drafting those defensive players mentioned does nothing to move the needle even if they’re “better talent.” It does nothing to help your (hopefully) franchise QB grow, develop, and thrive, which is the main thing that will determine the future of the entire franchise.Excellent analysis. I am in this boat as well. Baby steps is the way to go. Building a base is way more important than trying for a home run on every pick.
The goal is to field a competitive team, but in what year? Is the question. Even if we suddenly acquired the best WR and the best LT in the league tomorrow, we still would not be competing for the Super Bowl. Of course we will need a better WR and LT, but 1. We don't necessarily need them tomorrow. And 2. The more you force it and reach for one of those positions, the more likely they are to remain needs.There’s also the fact that the game is actually played on the field. The point isn’t to simply acquire the best talent regardless of fit or need, but to field a competitive team. Drafting those defensive players mentioned does nothing to move the needle even if they’re “better talent.” It does nothing to help your (hopefully) franchise QB grow, develop, and thrive, which is the main thing that will determine the future of the entire franchise.
Drives are going to stall, too. Having an excellent kicker (Will Reichard?) to get points on the board will help.Think of it this way: They made a huge investment at 3 with Maye. They have next to nothing in terms of offensive infrastructure right now. The line sucks, the WRs suck, the TEs are old and not very explosive... it's going to be very hard for Maye to do much if no one outside of Pop Douglas can get open.
So rather than draft players with high risk profiles who could bust - Adonai, for example - they went with players who we can say with confidence won't bust. There's now something of a foundation in place for Maye, when he starts, with two security blanket receivers in Pop and Polk who find holes in zones and then a different kind of threat in Baker. Are they going to be the best, most explosive offense in the NFL? Probably not even close. Could they possibly be competent? Maybe, and that's a huge step up from last year.
Once they're competent, that's when you try to go next level and upgrade to maybe trade for that #1 receiver (or sign them in FA with all your cap space), or trade up for the all pro potential left tackle, or a jack of all trades tight end. If you take those huge swings now and then those players suck, then you still have Kendrick Bourne as your #1 option and no additional depth.
This offense needs to crawl before walking, and I love the patience they're showing to uncover multiple ways to get new blood into the lineup.
This?NFL network just said gms in the league don’t want rattler bc of what they saw of him on that “qb1” show when he was in high school.
Kind of unfair to the kid but I get it. He was SO arrogant on that show. Brutally unlikable
Why is it that the Eagles - ostensibly a contending team - can wait and take Dejean at 40 this year, but if the Patriots are a contending team with a need at CB, they'll have to reach?It's very likely that CB actually does become a need in the near future and very possible we'll be regretting not taking DeJean and then have to reach for a CB in some future year. The advantage of rebuilding is that you're able to be proactive and get talent even if it isn't necessarily the best improvement for the team right now.
Of course it isn't. But it also might not happen. The more you remain focused on need, the less you are willing to take fallers because they may not coincide with what you need. For all we know, next year a different position could fall that we don't have on our list of needs. The advantage of just taking the talent where it is is that you address needs proactively.Why is it that the Eagles - ostensibly a contending team - can wait and take Dejean at 40 this year, but if the Patriots are a contending team with a need at CB, they'll have to reach?
Players drop every single year. It is not a unique circumstance for a player like Cooper Dejean to be available 10-15 spots later than you would expect him to be.
As an Irish Patriots fan can I just say fuck the Jets high up and low down.The Jets having an international fan from Ireland makes sense. The love of green, sure, but those people know all about suffering.