2016 Masters

[cshea]

It is Masters week! Giddy up!

Early odds:

http://www.sbnation.com/golf/2016/4/3/11355644/latest-2016-masters-odds-to-win-jordan-spieth

Day 7/1
Rory 8/1
Spieth 8/1
Bubba 12/1
Scott 12/1
Fowler 15/1
Lefty 15/1
DJ 20/1
Stenson 20/1
Rose 25/1

 

[SouthernBoSox]

I think I like Bubba the most on the odds. It's his perfect course.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Rose at 25/1 seems like it's worth a couple bucks

 

[johnmd20]

One of the best weeks of the year. It's going to be cold, even down in Augusta.

 

[TFP]

If DJ can putt like he did this past week, I like him as a choice at those odds as well.

 

[cshea]

Oosty at 30/1 jumped out at me a bit. Seems to be healthy and in form.

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

If DJ can putt like he did this past week, I like him as a choice at those odds as well.

I'm not touching DJ with a barge pole in any major championship from here on in. Maybe as an each way bet, but he's got too much baggage at this point to win - here are the final two paragraphs of a column I wrote after last year's PGA Championship:

Which brings us to Dustin Johnson. Johnson leads the PGA Tour in tournaments for which experts say about him, “This course is just perfect for his game,” and when he led after 36 holes at St. Andrews in July, the natural response was of course Johnson is leading: his gargantuan length, silky touch and redneck ease make him a more talented version of John Daly, and Daly won an Old Course Open 20 years ago. But being Dustin Johnson, he then shot 75-75 and finished so far behind his namesake Zach – tied for 49th place with, among others, David Duval – he needed binoculars to see the leaderboard. And on Sunday at Whistling Straits, another “made for Dustin” course, he opened with one of the worst quadruple bogeys you’ll ever see, taking six shots to hole out from behind the green.

Unfortunately, flattering to deceive is now Dustin’s specialty. He has at least one major Top 10 finish every year since 2009, but every time he reaches the cusp of greatness he detonates with unimaginable ferocity: whether he’s harshly penalized for grounding his club in a “bunker” (Whistling Straits again, 2010), fluffing multiple chips (Pebble Beach, 2010), gacking a 2-iron out of bounds (Royal St. George’s, 2011) or three-putting from 12 feet (Chambers Bay, 2015), something spectacular always seems to go wrong. The Monty Abyss yawns in front of Johnson now, and unless he gets over the hump soon, it’s increasingly likely the torch of “finest golfer of his generation to never win a major” has already been passed.

 

[LogansDad]

Sadly, Fred Couples had to withdraw due to back issues. As a kid who grew up idolizing him, I still enjoy watching him play at Augusta, but can't imagine he has too many left in the tank.

 

[ernieshore]

On Masters.com, you can watch CBS' entire last round coverage from 1986...Yesss Sir!!!

 

[Marceline]

I'm not touching DJ with a barge pole in any major championship from here on in. Maybe as an each way bet, but he's got too much baggage at this point to win - here are the final two paragraphs of a column I wrote after last year's PGA Championship:

I got DJ to be leading after the 1st round at 18 to 1, which is a bet I like a lot better.

 

[Freddy Linn]

Round 1
All times ET ***
8:20 a.m.: Jim Herman, Steven Bowditch
8:31 a.m.: Trevor Immelman, Robert Streb, Derek Bard (a)
8:42 a.m.: Larry Mize, Victor Dubuisson, Kevin Streelman
8:53 a.m.: Sandy Lyle, Bernd Wiesberger, Vaughn Taylor
9:04 a.m.: Webb Simpson, Chris Wood, Thongchai Jaidee
9:15 a.m.: Tom Watson, Charley Hoffman, Lee Westwood
9:26 a.m.: Zach Johnson, Rickie Fowler, Jin Cheng (a)
9:37 a.m.: Louis Oosthuizen, Jason Dufner, Patrick Reed
9:48 a.m.: Jordan Spieth, Paul Casey, Bryson DeChambeau (a)
9:59 a.m.: Justin Thomas, Emiliano Grillo, Dustin Johnson
10:21 a.m.: Vijay Singh, Hideki Matsuyama, Chris Kirk
10:32 a.m.: Harris English, Andy Sullivan, Kevin Na
10:43 a.m.: Phil Mickelson, Marc Leishman, Henrik Stenson
10:54 a.m.: Justin Rose, Jamie Donaldson, Daniel Berger
11:05 a.m.: Adam Scott, Kevin Kisner, Brooks Koepka
11:16 a.m.: Mike Weir, Cameron Smith, Sammy Schmitz (a)
11:27 a.m.: Ian Woosnam, Troy Merritt, Byeong-hun An
11:38 a.m.: Darren Clarke, Billy Horschel, Matthew Fitzpatrick
11:49 a.m.: Mark O'Meara, David Lingmerth, Paul Chaplet (a)
12 p.m.: Keegan Bradley, Brandt Snedeker, Kiradech Aphibarnrat
12:22 p.m.: Charl Schwartzel, Davis Love III, Rafael Cabrera-Bello
12:33 p.m.: Danny Lee, Russell Knox, Smylie Kaufman
12:44 p.m.: Bubba Watson, Branden Grace, Ian Poulter
12:55 p.m.: Bernhard Langer, Hunter Mahan, Romain Langasque (a)
1:06 p.m.: Jason Day, Matt Kuchar, Ernie Els
1:17 p.m.: Graeme McDowell, Fabian Gomez, Scott Piercy
1:28 p.m.: Jimmy Walker, Soren Kjeldsen, Anirban Lahiri
1:39 p.m.: Danny Willett, Sergio Garcia, Ryan Moore
1:50 p.m.: Angel Cabrera, Shane Lowry, J.B. Holmes
2:01 p.m.: Martin Kaymer, Bill Haas, Rory McIlroy

Round 2
All times ET ***

8:20 a.m.: Mike Weir, Cameron Smith, Sammy Schmitz (a)
8:31 a.m.: Ian Woosnam, Troy Merritt, Byeong-hun An
8:42 a.m.: Darren Clarke, Billy Horschel, Matthew Fitzpatrick
8:53 a.m.: Mark O'Meara, David Lingmerth, Paul Chaplet (a)
9:04 a.m.: Keegan Bradley, Brandt Snedeker, Kiradech Aphibarnrat
9:15 a.m.: Charl Schwartzel, Davis Love III, Rafael Cabrera-Bello
9:26 a.m.: Danny Lee, Russell Knox, Smylie Kaufman
9:37 a.m.: Bubba Watson, Branden Grace, Ian Poulter
9:48 a.m.: Bernhard Langer, Hunter Mahan, Romain Langasque (a)
9:59 a.m.: Jason Day, Matt Kuchar, Ernie Els
10:21 a.m.: Graeme McDowell, Fabian Gomez, Scott Piercy
10:32 a.m.: Jimmy Walker, Soren Kjeldsen, Anirban Lahiri
10:43 a.m.: Danny Willett, Sergio Garcia, Ryan Moore
10:54 a.m.: Angel Cabrera, Shane Lowry, J.B. Holmes
11:05 a.m.: Martin Kaymer, Bill Haas, Rory McIlroy
11:16 a.m.: Jim Herman, Steven Bowditch
11:27 a.m.: Trevor Immelman, Robert Streb, Derek Bard (a)
11:38 a.m.: Larry Mize, Victor Dubuisson, Kevin Streelman
11:49 a.m.: Sandy Lyle, Bernd Wiesberger, Vaughn Taylor
12 p.m.: Webb Simpson, Chris Wood, Thongchai Jaidee
12:22 p.m.: Tom Watson, Charley Hoffman, Lee Westwood
12:33 p.m.: Zach Johnson, Rickie Fowler, Jin Cheng (a)
12:44 p.m.: Louis Oosthuizen, Jason Dufner, Patrick Reed
12:55 p.m.: Jordan Spieth, Paul Casey, Bryson DeChambeau (a)
1:06 p.m.: Justin Thomas, Emiliano Grillo, Dustin Johnson
1:17 p.m.: Vijay Singh, Hideki Matsuyama, Chris Kirk
1:28 p.m.: Harris English, Andy Sullivan, Kevin Na
1:39 p.m.: Phil Mickelson, Marc Leishman, Henrik Stenson
1:50 p.m.: Justin Rose, Jamie Donaldson, Daniel Berger
2:01 p.m.: Adam Scott, Kevin Kisner, Brooks Koepka

 

[DJnVa]

Cool story about the 2500th ranked amateur golfer in the world teeing off at Augusta in 2 days:

http://espn.go.com/golf/masters16/story/_/id/15133537/sammy-schmitz-living-every-fan-masters-dream-augusta-national

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I ended up getting Scott at 12/1, Rose at 25/1, Oosty at 30/1 and Willet at 50/1.

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

I'm liking Phil at the ripe age of 45 to win this thing.

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

 

[tims4wins]

Damn

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

The kid did good

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

Jordan makes a pretty nice Cabernet...would that be too much?

 

[WayBackVazquez]

I wonder how they handle the wine. I bet Augusta has a spectacular wine cellar, but I'm guessing the host has some responsibility for bringing the wine. The Caymus and Cakebread are fine, but Adam Scott served Penfolds Grange, and Tiger after his first served a '75 Mouton and a '95 Batard Montrachet.

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

Agreed. At least throw a 2007 at them-2010?? I bet his parents picked the wine, and nobody picked the vintage.

 

[Doug Beerabelli]

I did prop bets in Vegas early October 2015.

Stenson 28-1
Matsuyama 40-1
Kuchar 45-1
Oosty 50-1
Finau 80-1
Kaymer 100-1
Horschel 100-1
McDowell 150-1

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Off topic but just caught a recap of a press conference and would just like to comment and say how much I hate Nicklaus. Simple question about Palmer not being able to hit the ceremonial first ball and the prick can't just drop his ego and be gracious to a contemporary competitor that is failing in health and might not be around next year. No, he has to tell anecdotes about himself and Gary Player and toss in a one liner about Palmer. Gfy Jack.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Jack was just on Mike and Mike and was very gracious and complimentary talking about Arnie.

 

[Conigliaro's Potential]

Off topic but just caught a recap of a press conference and would just like to comment and say how much I hate Nicklaus. Simple question about Palmer not being able to hit the ceremonial first ball and the prick can't just drop his ego and be gracious to a contemporary competitor that is failing in health and might not be around next year. No, he has to tell anecdotes about himself and Gary Player and toss in a one liner about Palmer. Gfy Jack.

Why do you actually hate Nicklaus? I think it's pretty remarkable how dignified he has remained throughout both his career and retirement - Federer seems a good contemporary comp.

 

[Doug Beerabelli]

Heard the Mike and Mike interview and agree it was gracious and complimentary. Also can't understand any Nicklaus hate.

Did anyone watch the "'86" special on the Golf Chanel last night? It was about the '86 Masters, with interviews with Jack, his family members, fellow golfers, and patrons who where there that day. Really well done, and was struck by the reason Jack wore yellow on Sunday. Watching this might mellow anyone's hate for Jack.

 

[MuzzyField]

I'm looking forward to watching "86", I DVR'd it last night while I was OD'ing on MLBEI.

Jack's Augusta arrival is a fun watch...

Is anyone going be viewing the DirecTV 4K coverage? If so, I'd love to hear what you think of it.

 

[johnmd20]

Jack is awesome. I'm all in on Team Nicklaus. Arnie is a phony.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Not trying to get anyone on my team, I just find Jack to be a sanctimonious prick and he's up there with Johnny Miller for me. I'm glad he was gracious with Mike and Mike and I will try to catch "'86". Won't change anything.

 

[E5 Yaz]

While we wait, a great story about the couple who won't sell their home to Augusta for parking lot expansion:

http://www.nj.com/golf/index.ssf/2016/04/masters_2016_the_house_that_au.html#incart_river_index

 

[cshea]

Wetzel has a pretty good article up about Bryson DeChambeau, who is playing as an the reigning US Am champion. I had heard of DeChambeau before, but I didn't really know his full story.

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/one-amateur-golfer-asked-a-question-that-could-change-the-sport-forever-155952673.html

Interesting read. DeChambeau's irons are all the same length.

 

[ernieshore]

Did anyone watch the "'86" special on the Golf Chanel last night? It was about the '86 Masters, with interviews with Jack, his family members, fellow golfers, and patrons who where there that day. Really well done, and was struck by the reason Jack wore yellow on Sunday. Watching this might mellow anyone's hate for Jack.

I watched it too. I thought many of the patron experiences were pretty bland. Although I get what they were trying to do with that, since other specials have covered the highlights and Jack's feelings and anecdotes before. I'm glad they brought up the part about Verne Lundquist copying Ben Wright's "Yes, Sir!" call. I had noticed the similar calls before in past shows, and wondered if there were any ill feelings since Verne's gets more attention (it definitely is the better call).

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

Did anyone watch the "'86" special on the Golf Chanel last night? It was about the '86 Masters, with interviews with Jack, his family members, fellow golfers, and patrons who where there that day. Really well done, and was struck by the reason Jack wore yellow on Sunday. Watching this might mellow anyone's hate for Jack.

Has anyone ever heard the yellow shirt story before? Maybe because it happened so long ago-the kid died in the early 70's?-it just hasn't been a topic, but its a great story.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

80 year old Gary Player had a hole in one in the par 3 contest today

Also, Justin Thomas and Rickie Fowler had back to back aces

 

[FL4WL3SS]

Off topic but just caught a recap of a press conference and would just like to comment and say how much I hate Nicklaus. Simple question about Palmer not being able to hit the ceremonial first ball and the prick can't just drop his ego and be gracious to a contemporary competitor that is failing in health and might not be around next year. No, he has to tell anecdotes about himself and Gary Player and toss in a one liner about Palmer. Gfy Jack.

I thought the same thing when I watched it. I thought as the question was being asked "this might finally be the time that Jack drops his ego and gives a sincere and emotional response about Arnie" and then he just flat out basically ignored the question. I was pretty pissed when I saw it.

Why do you actually hate Nicklaus? I think it's pretty remarkable how dignified he has remained throughout both his career and retirement - Federer seems a good contemporary comp.

Jack is awesome. I'm all in on Team Nicklaus. Arnie is a phony.

I live in Columbus and it's no secret that Jack is a dickhead and most people from this area can't stand him. There's a reason that most of the tour players admire Arnie more than Jack.

You're flat wrong about Arnie, he's the furthest thing from a phony. You're either trying to stir the pot or are very misinformed.

 

[MuzzyField]

80 year old Gary Player had a hole in one in the par 3 contest today

Also, Justin Thomas and Rickie Fowler had back to back aces

Gary Player is Jack Lalanne 2.0.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Gary Player is Jack Lalanne 2.0.

I made a similar comment to my buddy today while we were watching just before he holed out. I said I always expect him to start doing one handed push ups on the tee box, Jack Lalanne style. Guy is great.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I thought the same thing when I watched it. I thought as the question was being asked "this might finally be the time that Jack drops his ego and gives a sincere and emotional response about Arnie" and then he just flat out basically ignored the question. I was pretty pissed when I saw it.




I live in Columbus and it's no secret that Jack is a dickhead and most people from this area can't stand him. There's a reason that most of the tour players admire Arnie more than Jack.

You're flat wrong about Arnie, he's the furthest thing from a phony. You're either trying to stir the pot or are very misinformed.

Glad to know I'm not the only one who is aware Jack is a prick. And we seem to have shared the same emotional response watching that, because as I heard him speak I felt the same.

 

[Eck Master]

Wetzel has a pretty good article up about Bryson DeChambeau, who is playing as an the reigning US Am champion. I had heard of DeChambeau before, but I didn't really know his full story.

https://www.yahoo.com/amphtml/sports/news/one-amateur-golfer-asked-a-question-that-could-change-the-sport-forever-155952673.html

Interesting read. DeChambeau's irons are all the same length.

You would hate DeChambeau if you played with or behind him. He is molasses. Hopefully, he'll speed it up at Augusta.

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

Some good news on the featured group streaming. Per sbnation:

All the usual griping aside, Chairman Billy Payne did make a nice expansion of the digital streaming that Masters.com has controlled over the years. In the past, there would be two "Featured Groups Streams" that would go live at Noon on Thursday and Friday. This year they will be combined into one main stream and go live from the start of the first group's round, adding about three more hours of coverage. It makes sense, but given where we were last year, this is still a big change.

We've been asking for this for so long, and now we finally get it. That means on Thursday, you'll be able to watch Jordan Spieth, Rickie Fowler and others from the first tee. Once those two groups finish up, the stream drops back to two later tee times for a second shift, and then again for a third shift until the conclusion of the round. Here are your featured groups for the first two days:


Thursday Featured Groups
Tee Time Players
9:26 a.m. Zach Johnson Rickie Fowler Cheng Jin
9:48 a.m. Jordan Spieth Paul Casey Bryson DeChambeau
Noon Keegan Bradley Brandt Snedeker Kiradech Aphibarnrat
12:22 p.m Charl Schwartzel Davis Love III Rafael Cabrera-Bello
1:39 p.m. Danny Willett Sergio Garcia Ryan Moore
2:01 p.m. Martin Kaymer Bill Haas Rory McIlroy
Friday Featured Groups
Tee Time Players
9:37 a.m. Bubba Watson Branden Grace Ian Poulter
9:59 a.m. Jason Day Matt Kuchar Ernie Els
12:44 p.m Louis Oosthuizen Jason Dufner Patrick Reed
1:06 p.m. Justin Thomas Emiliano Grillo Dustin Johnson
1:39 p.m. Phil Mickelson Marc Leishman Henrik Stenson
2:01 p.m. Adam Scott Kevin Kisner Brooks Koepka

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Rickie starts his week with a double at the first

 

[ezemerson]

Some good news on the featured group streaming. Per sbnation:

All the usual griping aside, Chairman Billy Payne did make a nice expansion of the digital streaming that Masters.com has controlled over the years. In the past, there would be two "Featured Groups Streams" that would go live at Noon on Thursday and Friday. This year they will be combined into one main stream and go live from the start of the first group's round, adding about three more hours of coverage. It makes sense, but given where we were last year, this is still a big change.

We've been asking for this for so long, and now we finally get it. That means on Thursday, you'll be able to watch Jordan Spieth, Rickie Fowler and others from the first tee. Once those two groups finish up, the stream drops back to two later tee times for a second shift, and then again for a third shift until the conclusion of the round. Here are your featured groups for the first two days:


Thursday Featured Groups
Tee Time Players
9:26 a.m. Zach Johnson Rickie Fowler Cheng Jin
9:48 a.m. Jordan Spieth Paul Casey Bryson DeChambeau
Noon Keegan Bradley Brandt Snedeker Kiradech Aphibarnrat
12:22 p.m Charl Schwartzel Davis Love III Rafael Cabrera-Bello
1:39 p.m. Danny Willett Sergio Garcia Ryan Moore
2:01 p.m. Martin Kaymer Bill Haas Rory McIlroy
Friday Featured Groups
Tee Time Players
9:37 a.m. Bubba Watson Branden Grace Ian Poulter
9:59 a.m. Jason Day Matt Kuchar Ernie Els
12:44 p.m Louis Oosthuizen Jason Dufner Patrick Reed
1:06 p.m. Justin Thomas Emiliano Grillo Dustin Johnson
1:39 p.m. Phil Mickelson Marc Leishman Henrik Stenson
2:01 p.m. Adam Scott Kevin Kisner Brooks Koepka

is it bad that none of my 3 players playing are featured in any of these

 

[riboflav]

So this Bryson kid is pretty good at golf, eh?

 

[johnmd20]

So this Bryson kid is pretty good at golf, eh?

His name reminds me too much of Brandel Chamblee. It's killing me. I don't like to ever think of Chamblee and I do everytime I hear his name.

 

[ezemerson]

and how many times can the announcers say he likes physics.....geesh

 

[johnmd20]

The stream has been great thus far. Sometimes i get firewalled and sometimes I don't in my office. This year, there is no firewall, so it's been enjoyable to watch.

 

[riboflav]

Very smart decision grouping him with Spieth. Easy to glimpse golf's next great rivalry. Perhaps I'm getting too far ahead, however.

 

[riboflav]

The stream has been great thus far. Sometimes i get firewalled and sometimes I don't in my office. This year, there is no firewall, so it's been enjoyable to watch.

Love it! Thus far, I've watched in my kitchen, my bathroom, my living room, and now at Starbucks.

 

[Lupe Whalewatch]

Very smart decision grouping him with Spieth. Easy to glimpse golf's next great rivalry. Perhaps I'm getting too far ahead, however.

The reigning US Amateur champ is always paired with the Masters winner from the previous year.

 

[jablo1312]

Not having shot tracker available is wildly frustrating when trying to follow guys not on the stream

 

[riboflav]

The reigning US Amateur champ is always paired with the Masters winner from the previous year.

I read two articles about how the groupings are determined before I posted that so I wouldn't sound like an idiot. Neither mentioned this. The takeaway is as always. Rely on SoSH for accurate and complete information. All other sources are suspect.