2017 NBA offseason thread
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Lol, that's hilarious. I guess they weren't planning on winning too many more? So far they've been pretty prescient.
No more Clownshoes, Billy. Maybe you didn't hear about it, you been away a longtime. But The Grindfather don't clownshoes no more.
(Sorry, I was overcome with mixed-mafia-movie-metaphor mania for a second there)
Lost in the shuffle of all of the All-Stars switching teams was LAC's acquisition of Milos Teodosic. If only I had time to do nothing to watch basketball. Still, his highlights will be something to watch this year. For example.
And it appears he has had some effect on the way the Clippers play because we get to see things like this.
And it appears he has had some effect on the way the Clippers play because we get to see things like this.
Cleveland is in advanced talks on a deal to send Richard Jefferson and Kay Felder to Atlanta, league sources tell The Vertical.
The rights to couple of a Euros. Pure salary dump from Cleveland's perspective. They had to throw in two second-rounders to make it happen.
Luxury tax makes that 4M quite a bit more onerous for guys that they'd have to waive. They have 17 contracts, two gotta go.
And Felder. They basically just bought two Cavs' second round picks for $3.8M, which is a bit less than the going rate (Warriors for example spent $2.4M for Pat McCaw and $3.5 for Jordan Bell, both #38 picks).
Usually the team includes up to the $3m max in the deal to cover the salary or a majority of it. The Warriors buying these picks to add 2nd unit players on a championship team is a far different dynamic than a lottery team doing so.....the lottery team would be foolish to invest that type of money in second round picks. While they both include 2 second round picks the "markets" aren't really comparable.
plus those second round picks are garbage anyway. it's one thing to buy the 48th pick. Quite another for the 55th
A couple of interesting lines from last night's action:
Jordan Bell with another nice game for Golden State: 10 pts. on 5/8 FG, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks. Jordan shaping up to be a steal where Golden State drafted him in the second round (if he stays healthy).
Jordan Mickey: 12 pts. on 6/14 FG, 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals. Mickey also had a decent line in his prior game, against Washington, scoring 12 points on 5/6 shooting.
Jordan Bell with another nice game for Golden State: 10 pts. on 5/8 FG, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks. Jordan shaping up to be a steal where Golden State drafted him in the second round (if he stays healthy).
Jordan Mickey: 12 pts. on 6/14 FG, 10 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 steals. Mickey also had a decent line in his prior game, against Washington, scoring 12 points on 5/6 shooting.
Well, last night Embiid committed 3 fouls in 14 minutes.
Anywho, Lonzo Ball missed his 4th straight game with ankle issues.
The Lakers are going to be horrible. I doubt they win 25 games, they're too young, have no depth and the West should be as tough as any conference ever has been. I'm not sure they're actually better than Phoenix or Sacramento.
Replying from another thread:
These picks are still a work in progress, and the final picks will build in preseason results, but here's the most recent set:
Looking forward to seeing these final numbers and how much movement is projected since last week.
From the Oldies but Goodies files:
* Damien Wilkins, out of the league since 2013, makes the Indiana Pacers roster at the age of 37.
* Emeka Okafor, also out of the league since 2013.........is still out of the league at age 35. He will however play for the Sixers G-league entry in the hopes of making it back this season.
* Damien Wilkins, out of the league since 2013, makes the Indiana Pacers roster at the age of 37.
* Emeka Okafor, also out of the league since 2013.........is still out of the league at age 35. He will however play for the Sixers G-league entry in the hopes of making it back this season.
Here's an update. As you can see, there's a decent amount of movement, largely because of preseason results:
The Celtics' excellent preseason (4-0, with a very good MOV, and good opponents), bumped them back above 50 wins. Portland and Utah were the other two big preseason winners, while the Bulls, Pelicans, and Knicks lost (further) ground. (The Cavs' preseason results had no impact on their projection).
This is probably pretty close to final. There are a couple tweaks I'd still like to do, but I would be surprised if I had time to do anything else significant.
Thanks for these Bowiac. I am extremely interested to see how it all turns out. Good luck to you on your wagers for the season.
Why oops? That was hilarious.
You know what all he's making fun of, right? And the overall history of Embiid & social media? There's no oops.
If you’re right, I assume he’s making fun of Durant, except Durant was praising himself not shitting on other players. Whiteside didn’t seem to think he was joking:
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But it's not oops.
Oops implies a mistake whereas you are reacting to a brand in the way in which that brand would like you to react.
Oops implies a mistake whereas you are reacting to a brand in the way in which that brand would like you to react.
An extension as a reasonable rate may well increase his trade value which would be the best case for everybody. Lock in more guaranteed money over a longer period, but at a lower annual rate and deal him after the season. As things stand now, he'd have to opt out in a very uncertain environment where few teams have space.
Done at 3/$72.3M. Maybe not a horrendous move for them ($24M a year doesn't seem like a ton anymore), but how many other teams in the league willingly take on that contract?
The Memphis Grizzlies draft debacle train rolls on.
They cut Wade Baldwin today who they drafted last year at #16 overall.
Their last 6 1sts:
Baldwin- 1 year then cut
Martin- 2 years deep bench still on team
Adams- 2 years then cut (admittedly he destroyed his knee)
Tony Wroten- 1 year then traded for a conditional 2nd that never conveyed.
Traded w/ DeMarre Carroll for 25 games of Shane Battier and 15 games (at only 7min a night) of Ish Smith
Traded for 5 games of Ronnie Brewer.
BRUTAL.
They cut Wade Baldwin today who they drafted last year at #16 overall.
Their last 6 1sts:
Baldwin- 1 year then cut
Martin- 2 years deep bench still on team
Adams- 2 years then cut (admittedly he destroyed his knee)
Tony Wroten- 1 year then traded for a conditional 2nd that never conveyed.
Traded w/ DeMarre Carroll for 25 games of Shane Battier and 15 games (at only 7min a night) of Ish Smith
Traded for 5 games of Ronnie Brewer.
BRUTAL.
Final set of picks. I may update with some season sims later, but they won't change the average win total.
https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-bulls-nikola-mirotic-hospitalized-practice-altercation-teammate-bobby-portis-223615980.html
The fucking Bulls man.
Nikola Mirotic hospitalized indefinitely after being sucker punched by teammate Bobby Portis (who will likely either be suspended or have his contract terminated).
The fucking Bulls man.
Nikola Mirotic hospitalized indefinitely after being sucker punched by teammate Bobby Portis (who will likely either be suspended or have his contract terminated).
Good lord. They couldn't get through 1 game before the wheels flew off and exploded.
I wonder what Silver will do to Portis.
I wonder what Silver will do to Portis.
Ugh, that’s awful. And of course I was stupid enough to read the Yahoo Sports comments and now I’m doubly depressed. What the fuck is wrong with people? The same basic standards on SoSH should be applied to everyone posting anywhere on the internet.
It was totally racist. People are idiots and many just have an agenda. Comment sections are a nightmare, worse than Twitter.
ok, finally got around to looking at this.
I looked at all teams with delta >= 4
Bowiac, the stud, went 11 - 4. I hope he's rich from it.
rockets over 54
Okc under 53
portland over 40.5
Utah over 39.5
Indiana over 30.5
Brooklyn over 26.5
Dallas under 35.5
Chicago over 22.5
Knicks under 30.5
Kings under 28.5
Suns under 29.5
.......
Charlotte over 42.5
Pistons under 38.5
Philly under 38.5
Lakers under 32.5
I looked at all teams with delta >= 4
Bowiac, the stud, went 11 - 4. I hope he's rich from it.
rockets over 54
Okc under 53
portland over 40.5
Utah over 39.5
Indiana over 30.5
Brooklyn over 26.5
Dallas under 35.5
Chicago over 22.5
Knicks under 30.5
Kings under 28.5
Suns under 29.5
.......
Charlotte over 42.5
Pistons under 38.5
Philly under 38.5
Lakers under 32.5
Final set of picks. I may update with some season sims later, but they won't change the average win total.
It is his win total vs the official number he is betting against: for GSW he predicted 69.5 the line was 67.5 so he is over by 2
I looked at all the games where his prediction was different by the official number by 4 or more.