I don't really see how the guy in charge is absolved of (edit: responsibility for)making decisions even if the decisions were based on recommendations of his older employees. I also always think it's weird when a player or an agent intentionally pisses off any GM or coach in any major sports league (or the other way around, GMs unnecessarily piss off agents all the time) because you never know when it might come back to bite you in the ass.
I'd agree with this if rookies hit FA after one year. But with 5 years of control, JJ would have had ample opportunity to prove himself for his second deal, in a better market with a better coaching staff and better talent around him. Not to mention the fact that they cost him a couple mil from his rookie deal. Now, maybe JJ had some other reason for not wanting to go to Boston, and that's fine. But if he didn't give a shit and this was all cooked up by Armstrong and McDonough, they did him a disservice. And the flight thing was a total douche move, especially given McDonough's start with the Celtics. Is there some history of bad blood?
No it's standard gamesmanship. This is a cutthroat business.
I disagree strongly on this. If B J Armstrong purposely (or even close to purposely) made Danny and the team waste a day during the week before the draft, he is in danger of getting 86ed by the Wasserman group with a big apology to Wyc about wasting his employees time. Wasserman is a big group and I doubt that they are interested in pissing off future clients. B J Armstrong represents some important players, but not compared to the Wasserman group as a whole and some of those players would not be pleased either.
Yes. If they had a deal with Phoenix, just refuse the workout with Boston and that's the end of it. That sort of thing happens all the time. This seems anything but standard.
I doubt Rubio is available Post-Butler trade. I think he's a good fit right now for Minnesota and he won that position with his play last year during the second half. Hill is not an upgrade for them, Rubio is a better defender and sets the table well for a bunch of guys that have the skills to score the ball but still need polish.
I was referring to McDonough being the catalyst behind waiting until Ainge landed to promise to Armstrong and Jackson that thy would select him which is where he wanted to be. Jackson said himself that "the timing was bad." The timing wasn't "bad"......the timing was admittedly calculated by McDonough.
Right.....but they DIDN'T have a deal with Phoenix until Ainge and Co. were in descent on their flight.
Rubio is a terrible fit, IMO. Butler and Wiggins are best with the ball in their hands making things happen. And while Rubio can get them the ball in a good spot, you need, need, need a shooter on the floor with those guys or the spacing is going to be gross. Even if they get a stretch 4 who can make shots, I still think they are one shooter light and the best way to do that is to get one from the glut of PG's available.
And what if LA took Tatum at # 2? BOS hadn't worked out Ball or Jackson, so Ainge wouldn't be doing his job if he refused to attend a workout just in case
Rubio is one of the only true pass-first point guards still in the NBA. He may bring the ball up but it doesn't stick in his hands so he doesn't get in the way of Butler/Wiggins creating. You would like to see him shoot the ball better but at the same time, you can't rely on Rubio alone to space the floor. The fact is Butler and Wiggins have to become better outside shooters or the team isn't going to reach its potential anyway; even if the PG is a good outside shooter. You can't really blame Rubio for the poor spacing when the guys taking 20+ shots a game are poor outside shooters.
Danny had to have known whom the Lakers were taking at #2. If there was any doubt in anyone's mind, I don't see why they would make the Sixers trade before the draft.
How exactly, is he supposed to know that? If Magic Johnson or the World"s Biggest As_____, I mean Rob Pelinka, called him up and said "Hey Danny, we're taking Ball with the second pick, who you got?" He would be a fool to believe them.
If they didn't have a deal until Danny was flying out to talk to them, why did he refuse to work out with the Celts earlier? This wasn't "Oh I can't fit you guys with the number one pick into my schedule" It was, "We are not going to work out for you."
It's so simple on the app as well. Tap to highlight the link/tweet and click on more. It will take you to web view, click that, and it will allow you to see the tweet. I have an iPhone and have been doing it this way for months now.
Gary Harris, Rodney Hood and Clint Capela vehemently disagree with this statement.
Outside of the lottery those are the players you tend to get. Other teams were able to find players that were significantly better contributors than James Young; if you are looking for All-Stars yeah you are not going to be able to find many, but a guy like Clint Capela is a key player on a very good team three years into his career, that's a find.
if Celts strike out on Hayward, would you want Blake Griffin or trade for LMA?
Wiggins is not very good with the ball in his hands, which is why the T'wolves should be looking to move on from him. Rubio, on the other had, is pretty good with the ball in his hands.
Because there were four guys on their radar, and Philly and LA could only pick two of them. While Ainge knew who Philly was drafting at #1, the Lakers made a lot of enquiries about trading down from #2, so there were no guarantees that Tatum would be there at #3. So they wanted to interview Jackson and Ball as well.
I guess you're getting to be unique in this regards as well as most people would like to savor a nice 25 footer coming out of the hands for virtually everyone.
Thanks. This article - https://theringer.com/nba-salary-cap-projection-99-million-7fe06be03dc9 - to which K.O'Connor linked - is also a good rundown of the effects of the lower salary cap projection.
They have to trade Rubio. You can't play him, Wiggins and Butler together. It's not enough shooting and too many guys trying to create with the ball. That would be running back the same type of team of Chicago had last year and we saw how that worked out. I'd bet he's traded in the next two weeks.
HAven't Celtics gone that route before? Danny gave up the corpse of Gerald Wallace and that didn't work out
good point
So did Damian Lillard and Austin Rivers, which in each case was one more vote than Hassan Whiteside.
Rivers is a decent defender. Not All-Defense, but probably better than Hassan Whiteside who isn't good.
Guy on radio said he didn't vote or Bradley because he only played 55 games.
Not that I necessarily agree with the thinking, but there are planty of other defensive wings who you could make an argument for. Not so much with rookies, IMO.
