2018 NBA offseason thread
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More to the point, the much maligned offer to LaVine was designed to buy offense on the cheap. Smart, while being a decent compliment to what they already have (and a guy Joerger might love) doesn't fit in that mold.
I think the non-ex-Spur Parker might be their next target though there are some fit issues with him too.
As a side note, you want to know who would fit perfectly with Sacramento? Mook Morris. I bet they are a potential trade partner if the Celtics decide to deal him this summer.
I think Parker would be worth an offer sheet to them. He’s a good offensive player and their wings are pretty awful. No legit UFA will ever sign there so might as well try to overpay a bit to get a decent player in Parker.
I can't imagine the Kings signing Jabari when they just drafted Bagley to play the 4 and also have Labissiere, Z-Bo, and Giles there next to WCS/Koufos in the middle. I mean, insert Willie McGee joke at your own peril but Jabari doesn't make a ton of sense here.
It’d be more of a move to just add talent and sort out rotations later. Right now their entire roster doesn’t make sense. Parker is a net negative on defense at any position so I could see them trying him at the 3.
Pretty sure the Bucks match on any Parker offer anyway. Given his 2 huge injuries, I'm not sure what kinda offers he gets anyway. I'd guess LaVine money but I wouldn't be shocked if he got considerably less.
I'm a huge Rondo guy and agree with your assessment of his BBall IQ but he's still a ball pounder and I'm not sure how that is going to work with LBJ. And while he knows other teams' sets he hasn't been a good defender in years.
Plus, he was good in NO because it was a young team and everyone listened to him. LAL is a vet team with strong personalities.
I hope you're right, although I think it is more likely Rondo takes a swing at LaVar or Lance than this season being his best in years.
The Lakers are going to run up and down the floor for most of the game, with Rondo and Ball running the offense, and LeBron is going to close the games out. If the Lakers don't get something good in early offense, LBJ will get the ball in the post and run the show from there. He's not going to have to run things for all 24 seconds of each possession like in Cleveland last season. LeBron the GM wouldn't have brought Rondo in if he wanted to have the ball in his hands for much of every possession.
The Bucks are hard-capped because they used the full MLE to sign Ilyasova. They wouldn't be able to match a Lavine-type offer unless they dumped salary. That being said, the Kings supposedly don't have interest in Parker because they don't think they can play him with Bagley. I'd take a shot anyway just because they are so talent-deprived, but I'm not the GM of a team that has missed the playoffs for the last 12 years so what do I know.
I think the issue is once you use the full mid-level you're not allowed to go above the Apron for the rest of the season under any circumstances, even using the standard exceptions like using Bird rights to retain your own players.
It's an order of operations thing. Had they signed Jabari first it wouldn't have been an issue. However, once you've committed the full MLE you can't go over the hard cap for any reason. Teams over the apron only get the lower taxpayer MLE. This is what cost the Pistons KCP last year.
Which implies they never wanted Jabari back, anyway. Interesting. That should set off some warning signals so the Kings are a perfect fit.
Zeller and Jennings have non-guaranteed deals, so if they released them both they could get in the neighborhood of $20MM of space under the hard cap. They either didn't think Jabari would get that much, or didn't want to go over that number in their negotiations. If the Kings offered the exact Lavine deal they'd be in a really tough spot cap-wise but I don't expect that to happen.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 5m5 minutes ago
The Golden State Warriors are among the teams forward Jonas Jerebko will consider upon clearing waivers, league sources tell ESPN. Strong mutual interest.
The Golden State Warriors are among the teams forward Jonas Jerebko will consider upon clearing waivers, league sources tell ESPN. Strong mutual interest.
That’s a pretty good point, he pretty much fills their needs for a F, someone that plays tough defense and can give them a little shooting, albeit streaky shooting with too many long twos in the mix. But he’d still be a good fit for them.
I didn't see it reported anywhere and I don't know when it happened, but the NO Pelicans signed Elfrid Payton to the bi annual exception. I really like that move for NO. Decent Rondo replacement for the money spent and NO did need a backup PG. In some ways, he's actually a lot like Rondo. Now, if only Payton could improve his outside shot...
Nurkic also re-signed with the Blazers at 4/53.
Nurkic also re-signed with the Blazers at 4/53.
I do too as I think Randle is one of the most undervalued and underrated players in the league due to his lack of a 3 point shot and Payton is a really good distributor and rebounder. Spacing is going to be an absolute nightmare for the Pelicans though. Outside of Darius Miller and E'twuan Moore, the rest of the lot are average at best and that is being incredibly kind. Looking at their roster, both Randle and Payton are going to play 25+ minutes a night so they'll have to be on the court together at times and none of the other bench players offer any type of range. At certain times, Anhtony Davis will be their 2nd best option beyond the arc.
Sources: Charlotte, Chicago and Orlando finalizing trade that includes Mozgov to Magic, Biyombo to Charlotte and Julyan Stone to Bulls.
Multiple sources indicate Jerian Grant is going to Orlando in the deal.
If you listen closely, you can hear a string quartet playing "Nearer My God to Thee".
Usually not for a veteran like Jerebko.
Since he's more than the minimum, you actually need the cap space or a trade exception to fit the 4.2M in.
Then you can probably cross off non-playoff teams since it doesn't make much sense for them to claim a veteran.
It becomes a very limited field that could claim him. Could happen, but it's not like any team in the league can just grab him.
Since he's more than the minimum, you actually need the cap space or a trade exception to fit the 4.2M in.
Then you can probably cross off non-playoff teams since it doesn't make much sense for them to claim a veteran.
It becomes a very limited field that could claim him. Could happen, but it's not like any team in the league can just grab him.
Philly is at the cap. Used their space on Wilson Chandler.
I think if Dallas were interested they might have just enough room if Dirk would take the room exception instead of signing into cap space for a little bit more.
Kinda feels like a Mark Cuban eff you move.
I think if Dallas were interested they might have just enough room if Dirk would take the room exception instead of signing into cap space for a little bit more.
Kinda feels like a Mark Cuban eff you move.
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Rookie contract extensions are based on future production......not on that of prior years. Similar to the deals Exum and LaVine signed in this regard.
How long will it be before Phoenix is competing? I assume it will be several years, although with so many young lottery picks it is hard to really say. I don't think they are concerned about the salary cap right or clearing a ton of space to land a marquee free agent. Booker doesn't do much well besides score the basketball, but he's 21 and coming off a season where he averaged 25 ppg. At the very least he gives Phoenix a number one option to attract defenses' attention while they try to develop Jackson and Ayton.
Over/under on how much his shooting percentage improves now that he can see the rim?
Theoretically but not always with some GMs. For example, the Zach LaVine match probably had more to do with saving face in light of a bad trade than actual wins and losses: https://www.si.com/nba/2018/07/07/zach-lavine-kings-bulls-free-agency-rumors
No wonder Ainge/Zarren stand out. Seems like NBA executives make so many head-scratching moves.
FWIW, 538’s CARMELO projection system has him as being worth $107MM over the next five years, so it’s not that big of an overpay, especially given their cap and roster situation.
I'd much rather pay Booker that money than LaVine his contract, at least. Booker has a valuable, elite-level NBA skill today, and perhaps there's more (perhaps not). I think BPM can understate the value of go-to scoring---YMMV.
I don't hate the Booker deal. His value is dragged down substantially due to defensive reasons. While I don't think he's ever going to be a plus defender, in the modern NBA, a lot of defensive value is tied to team defense concepts. Given how dysfunctional Phoenix has been the last few years, I'm inclined to hold out hope that if they ever get some stability, Booker's defense may improve along the way. This isn't yet a DeMar DeRozan situation, where he's been bad for years on good teams.
On the other hand, despite playing on the worst team in the NBA for the last 3 years, his teams haven't actually been any better with him on the court (career plus/minus of 0.1). Raw plus/minus has all sorts of issues, but it's not like the Suns have had some kind of elite bench units making him look bad or something, so he does have some "best player on a bad team" stink to him.
Overall, I'm fine it; if it was either signing him to that deal, or preparing to let him walk, I'd sign it.
On the other hand, despite playing on the worst team in the NBA for the last 3 years, his teams haven't actually been any better with him on the court (career plus/minus of 0.1). Raw plus/minus has all sorts of issues, but it's not like the Suns have had some kind of elite bench units making him look bad or something, so he does have some "best player on a bad team" stink to him.
Overall, I'm fine it; if it was either signing him to that deal, or preparing to let him walk, I'd sign it.
I read this quickly as Melo was projected to be worth $107m over the next 5 years.
Stick to politics Nate!
Turns out IT to Orlando isn't a thing after all?
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The Orlando Magic and Isaiah Thomas never were negotiating a possible contract. Is it correct to say the Magic explored the possibility of signing Thomas? Yes. But there were no negotiations. The addition of Jerian Grant indicates Orlando had decided not to ultimately pursue IT.
Josh RobbinsVerified account @JoshuaBRobbins
The Orlando Magic and Isaiah Thomas never were negotiating a possible contract. Is it correct to say the Magic explored the possibility of signing Thomas? Yes. But there were no negotiations. The addition of Jerian Grant indicates Orlando had decided not to ultimately pursue IT.
So this means the chances of this forum exploding over the next few months have increased...
That Brinks truck is looking more like a Meals on Wheels van by the minute.
Gotta think it's down to a vet minimum deal somewhere at this point.
Gotta think it's down to a vet minimum deal somewhere at this point.
man, would we prefer IT to Rozier to lead the 2nd unit? Next year the dollars wouldn't be equal, but after that they kinda would be...