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pappymojo

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Isn't Taylor the opposite of the type of QB you want to pair with Landry? Both trades seem like head scratchers to me.
 

jk333

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Isn't Taylor the opposite of the type of QB you want to pair with Landry? Both trades seem like head scratchers to me.
They also have Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman. So they’re pretty loaded at WR, that’s not an excuse if Taylor stinks.
 

jk333

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Shhh, don’t scare away the bettors.
Foles to the Bills is interesting. I just can’t make a bet right now. Lot of uncertainty too, between can Hue Jackson coach and do the Bills get a qb. A seem to think more highly of Taylor than you, we will at least know on him by the end of the year. With Landry, Coleman and Gordon, there are minimal excuses for him and Hue this year.
 

pappymojo

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They also have Josh Gordon and Corey Coleman. So they’re pretty loaded at WR, that’s not an excuse if Taylor stinks.
I meant that if you were going to trade draft picks for Landry when he is signed on a franchise tag, where you are going to have to negotiate a new contract with him, then you have to be committing to him as a key part of your team for the next, what, let's say five years - if you are committing to Landry as a part of the team that you are building, and if you are going to trade additional draft capital on a not-cheap veteran QB, wouldnt it make sense to target a QB whose skillset complimented Landry, even if that QB was only part of your plan as a bridge for one year?
 

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O-O-Odell likes pizza in bed

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22715325/new-york-giants-aware-odell-beckham-jr-video


The New York Giants and the NFL are aware of a potentially troubling video involving wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. that was leaked Friday while he was on a Nike-sponsored trip in Europe.

The seven-second clip posted on social media shows Beckham in a bed alongside a pizza holding what appears to be some sort of brown cigarette or cigar. There is a woman next to him with a credit card and what looks like a white powdery substance aligned in rows.

Who doesn't like a little freshly chopped Reggiano on their pies?
 

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O-O-Odell likes pizza in bed

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22715325/new-york-giants-aware-odell-beckham-jr-video


The New York Giants and the NFL are aware of a potentially troubling video involving wide receiver Odell Beckham Jr. that was leaked Friday while he was on a Nike-sponsored trip in Europe.

The seven-second clip posted on social media shows Beckham in a bed alongside a pizza holding what appears to be some sort of brown cigarette or cigar. There is a woman next to him with a credit card and what looks like a white powdery substance aligned in rows.

Who doesn't like a little freshly chopped Reggiano on their pies?
If I was famous, I’d have a Jack White cell phones in a bag policy. Too easy to take a video and pretend you’re texting.
 

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Foles to the Bills is interesting. I just can’t make a bet right now. Lot of uncertainty too, between can Hue Jackson coach and do the Bills get a qb. A seem to think more highly of Taylor than you, we will at least know on him by the end of the year. With Landry, Coleman and Gordon, there are minimal excuses for him and Hue this year.
No problemo, man, I got a taker for charity. I hope I lose, fuck the Bills and yay charity, which gets more if I lose than win.
 

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Solid advice here for all players, in the context of the Sherman deal. Again, Florio adds value.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/11/players-need-good-agents-period/
There's solid advice there in general, but the underlying tone of that article seems to be 'Sherman as a player must by default have signed a bad deal because it's not possible he could have considered things properly, here's a list of things that I think he could've gotten better without presenting any evidence that they were things SF or Sherman would agree to', and I can't decide if it's actually insulting or just dumb.


To pick on one very specific example -
3. State income taxes.

Let’s assume the Lions (who were very interested in Sherman) would have given Sherman the same deal the 49ers did, with a base package of $7 million for 2018, $2 million in per-game roster bonuses, $1 million in playing-time incentives, and a $3 million incentive tied to making it to the Pro Bowl (which actually could be the All-Pro team). Michigan has a tax rate of 4.25 percent. If Sherman had unlocked all incentives, he would have paid $552,500 in Michigan taxes. In California, where the tax rate for the highest earners is 13.3 percent, he’ll pay $1.729 million.

That’s a difference of $1.117 million. A good agent would have pointed that out to Sherman. It’s unknown whether anyone did. It’s unlikely that the 49ers did.
Sherman grew up in LA, went to college in the Bay Area, and then has been in Seattle since 2011. Maybe moving to the midwest (particularly Detroit) to save $1.1 million in state taxes (which isn't even correct due to the taxation based on where games are played) isn't something he's particularly interested in? It's fine to suggest that as a possibility, but the tone there is kind of arrogant.
 

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To pick on one very specific example -


Sherman grew up in LA, went to college in the Bay Area, and then has been in Seattle since 2011. Maybe moving to the midwest (particularly Detroit) to save $1.1 million in state taxes (which isn't even correct due to the taxation based on where games are played) isn't something he's particularly interested in? It's fine to suggest that as a possibility, but the tone there is kind of arrogant.
There’s no state income tax in Washington. Out of curiosity, how do NFL player salaries work for purposes of taxation? Baseball players are working out of state for basically 1/2 the time that they are paid, but NFL players are on the road 8 days per season. I guess double that if you count them getting into town a day early for the road games. Do they get paid by game? Or do they just get paid a salary for the season? Seems like that would make a big difference in how taxes are calculated. I have no idea how that works.
 

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There’s no state income tax in Washington. Out of curiosity, how do NFL player salaries work for purposes of taxation? Baseball players are working out of state for basically 1/2 the time that they are paid, but NFL players are on the road 8 days per season. I guess double that if you count them getting into town a day early for the road games. Do they get paid by game? Or do they just get paid a salary for the season? Seems like that would make a big difference in how taxes are calculated. I have no idea how that works.
I remember once long ago reading they get paid by game. E.g 16 million is 16 weekly checks of a million a check. Not sure if still true.
 

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There’s no state income tax in Washington. Out of curiosity, how do NFL player salaries work for purposes of taxation? Baseball players are working out of state for basically 1/2 the time that they are paid, but NFL players are on the road 8 days per season. I guess double that if you count them getting into town a day early for the road games. Do they get paid by game? Or do they just get paid a salary for the season? Seems like that would make a big difference in how taxes are calculated. I have no idea how that works.
Well, when a player gets suspended for a game he loses one game's salary, so I believe they get paid by game. Not sure how it works with signing bonuses and the like, however.

In terms of how they pay taxes, I believe the states with so-called "Jock Taxes" will collect state income tax from athletes who play games in that state. So for an NFL player he'll pay state income tax in each of the 8 jurisdictions where he plays his road games, plus state income tax from his "home" state on half of his salary for the 8 games played there. The only states with NFL teams where there is no state income tax are Florida, Texas, Tennessee and Washington. Again, not sure how it works for signing bonuses. Some information here:

https://smartasset.com/taxes/NFL-jock-taxes

https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/income/wages/the-jock-tax/
 

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Well, when a player gets suspended for a game he loses one game's salary, so I believe they get paid by game. Not sure how it works with signing bonuses and the like, however.

In terms of how they pay taxes, I believe the states with so-called "Jock Taxes" will collect state income tax from athletes who play games in that state. So for an NFL player he'll pay state income tax in each of the 8 jurisdictions where he plays his road games, plus state income tax from his "home" state on half of his salary for the 8 games played there. The only states with NFL teams where there is no state income tax are Florida, Texas, Tennessee and Washington. Again, not sure how it works for signing bonuses. Some information here:

https://smartasset.com/taxes/NFL-jock-taxes

https://www.hrblock.com/tax-center/income/wages/the-jock-tax/
Right, but when the Bucs have a game in SF should the Tampa player pay CA taxes on 1/16 of his annual salary or on 1/120? Is an NFL player not working during the week of practice leading up to a game? I always assumed the jock taxes (or consultant taxes) are based on your number of days working in state. For baseball or basketball that roughly matches up with games, but for football the difference is pretty significant. A low tax jurisdiction player would seem to have a pretty solid argument that game day is 1/7 work days for which he was paid, with 6/7 being in his low tax home state in preparation for the game. Anyway, huge digression but figuring out how to minimize state tax burden is a very interesting topic to some folks.
 

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Dolphins will be releasing Suh later today.


Not a surprise. Alonso and Branch might be next.
Posted my thoughts in the Dolphins thread. This likely signals another reset/rebuild.

Gase inherited a flawed roster and made some magic happen to get them to the playoffs in 2016. They’re going to rebuild again, but with Gase’s input, I actually have some faith that they’ll rebuild the team more in line with today’s game in mind, and not spend 20 million on a run stuffing DT.

It actually feels like the QB draft chatter might be real this year.
 

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Posted my thoughts in the Dolphins thread. This likely signals another reset/rebuild.

Gase inherited a flawed roster and made some magic happen to get them to the playoffs in 2016. They’re going to rebuild again, but with Gase’s input, I actually have some faith that they’ll rebuild the team more in line with today’s game in mind, and not spend 20 million on a run stuffing DT.

It actually feels like the QB draft chatter might be real this year.
Can't wait to see which guys the Dolphins overpay in free agency and then cut in two or three years!
 

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We’re into the just-say-no portion of NEP offseason. Make it work Theo — ah, no.
 

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We’re into the just-say-no portion of NEP offseason. Make it work Theo — ah, no.
I don’t get this. Suh is like exactly what the doctor ordered in terms of talent. Don’t get me wrong – he’s an asshole and will likely command a big deal given that his character issues aside he performed well for the Dolphins.

But if he were up for it, you don’t think the Pats should even consider bringing him in for a one year Revis-style deal?
 

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I’d pass. He has no discipline. And you can be reasonably certain that Suh’s Teflon — which has quite extraordinarily kept him from suspension — would not survive New England falls and winters.
 

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No to Suh. I don't want to cheer for him. I also feel that his talent, while great, is less than what I expect the combination of the financial + personality cost will be. There are other ways to build a roster.
 

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Allen Robinson to the Bears for 3/42
Sammy Watkins to the Chiefs for 3/48 with 30 guaranteed (which seems like a massive overpay to me)
Andrew Norwell to the jags for 5/66 (Shaq Mason is not going to be cheap)
Brees back to the saints for 2/48 (edit: apparently just a rumor for now)
Case Keenum to the Broncos, no contract details yet
 

dcmissle

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Brees going anywhere but NO is a mirage.

Something has to give in Minny with Keenum to Denver.
 

Average Game James

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That’s a absolutely horrendous contract for Watkins. Chiefs are beyond desperate
Massive overpay, but if Mahomes can actually throw the ball downfield they're a matchup nightmare with Watkins as their 4th best option on offense after Hill, Hunt, and Kelce.
 

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Allen Robinson to the Bears for 3/42
Sammy Watkins to the Chiefs for 3/48 with 30 guaranteed (which seems like a massive overpay to me)
Andrew Norwell to the jags for 5/66 (Shaq Mason is not going to be cheap)
Brees back to the saints for 2/48 (edit: apparently just a rumor for now)
Case Keenum to the Broncos, no contract details yet
Love that Robinson deal for the Bears. If Meredith can actually return from that nasty injury, that’s 2 nice WR options.
 

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What if anything would it say about Butler-gate if he signed with Matt Patricia?
I’m not sure it says a whole lot. BB has preciously commented positively on his skill and hard work. It was a matchup and timing issue.

But the media will certainly turn it into the biggest story of the offseason.