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Discussion in '2016 Celtics Game Threads' started by Ale Xander, May 25, 2017.

  1. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    Re. officiating, my one rule change would be this: players can't talk to the refs. Period. Just like in kids leagues. You speak to them, you get T'd up.

    I would love to see anyone come up with a legit reason to oppose that (and "But the officials suck!" doesn't count ... because players bitching at them doesn't change that ... it actually makes it worse).
     
  2. joe dokes

    joe dokes Member SoSH Member

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    A legit reason is that many time the conversations lead to less friction later as the discussions include explanations. (That certainly may not be enough to move your needle).
     
  3. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    Why couldn't the refs simply explain it as the call is made on the floor? There is honestly no reason in the world for NBA players to be spending the time they do jawing at the refs. It's a bad look for the game. I mean, imagine if baseball allowed players to complain after ever ball or strike. The games would be FIVE hours long!
     
  4. joe dokes

    joe dokes Member SoSH Member

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    I think there's a line between a discussion and complaining. Sometimes the call is made from way over there, and play immediately starts going the other way. So at the next foul shot, the player sidles up to the ref and chats. I think refs would even be opposed to a no talking rule. No if you think that anyone being juvenile-ishly demonstrative after every single call should get T'd up once in awhile, I'm there. But I also think the ref should be allowed to give the player a "cut the shit" warning.

    I actually think a 9-foot tall player having a civil discussion with a 5-foot tall ref is a good look for the league. And I think 95% of the time it is civil.
     
  5. Van Everyman

    Van Everyman Member SoSH Member

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    My only question would be how you regulate something like that. My instinct would be that the ref has to initiate the conversation.

    This is honestly my only real beef with the league. Every player on every team is crying after every play – either because a foul was called or a foul wasn't called. It's a terrible look for the league and needlessly ends up diminishing players like Lebron who already benefit from the star treatment (which I agree is never going away) so feel even more entitled to throw their weight around with the refs.

    Addressing this also strikes me as being completely consistent with Adam Silver's approach to cleaning up some of the less than savory elements of the game that David Stern left behind.
     

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