Marino fell due to coke and knee concerns. He had a much worse senior year than junior and teams got scared off.
30 for 30
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I've loved the 30 for 30 series, but this one was a bit of a yawner. The agent had zero personality, and the story could have been wrapped up in an hour instead of an hour and a half.
The behind the scenes revelations were pretty good, especially the speculation the league stepped in to basically veto a trade that would have landed Elway in Oakland.
The behind the scenes revelations were pretty good, especially the speculation the league stepped in to basically veto a trade that would have landed Elway in Oakland.
Van Everyman said:
They mentioned it several times. Elway referenced it himself when he discussed taking his current gig with the Broncos how calling Accorsi for pointers on how to deal with such situations was one of the first thing he did.
I thought it was pretty good. I can't believe out of all those '83 QB's we ended up with Tony "Turtle on his back" Eason.
Imagine if the Elway to New England deal actually happened? My childhood probably would have been much happier.
Imagine if the Elway to New England deal actually happened? My childhood probably would have been much happier.
Yes. I posted that piece of trivia in the "Things You Only Learned Recently" thread. It's truly amazing if you really think about it.Tokyo Sox said:
Another fantastic 30 for 30 short, this one on Clint Malarchuk.
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9319085/clint-malarchuk-20-year-road-recovery-latest-30-30-documentary-series
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/9319085/clint-malarchuk-20-year-road-recovery-latest-30-30-documentary-series
Anyone watched any of the 9 for IX docs? I watched Runner the other night. Never knew that Mary Decker was (and based on her interviews) still is a condescending brat who refused to believe someone could be as good as her. Very similar to how Carl Lewis was in *9.79
I watched the "No Limits" one about Audrey Mestre and Free Diving.
Mostly because I was wondering what the decently hot woman was doing and then after watching about 2 minutes, I was hooked.
http://espn.go.com/espnw/w-in-action/nine-for-ix/article/9501062/espnw-nine-ix-drives-athletes-push-boundaries
By the end I came to my own realization that "Pipin" likely killed Audrey...maybe not on purpose, but had enough responsibility that he ended up killing her anyway.
Review from AV Club here: http://www.avclub.com/articles/no-limits,100624/
Mostly because I was wondering what the decently hot woman was doing and then after watching about 2 minutes, I was hooked.
http://espn.go.com/espnw/w-in-action/nine-for-ix/article/9501062/espnw-nine-ix-drives-athletes-push-boundaries
By the end I came to my own realization that "Pipin" likely killed Audrey...maybe not on purpose, but had enough responsibility that he ended up killing her anyway.
Review from AV Club here: http://www.avclub.com/articles/no-limits,100624/
That info along with many other news and notes just shows you how lucky Pats fans are to have the brain trust in Foxboro that nthey do have, despite some of the recent craziness. . There is a lot of dysfunction in NFL personnel offices.BannedbyNYYFans.com said:
New slate of 30 for 30s start up Tuesday. I'm really interested in the Duran and Isles one, mildly so about the ABA so long as they have a bunch of good stories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nkg1sch3wE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nkg1sch3wE
In tribute to the 10th anniversary of "the Bartman game" I watched "Catching Hell" the piece dealing with Steve Bartman and his fan interference that occurred 10 years ago tonight.
Amazing that he has been in hiding for all these years refusing any interviews or in any way capitalizing on his infamy.
In looking at it again it was scary to say the least what was going on at Wrigley that night and the movie is great example of mob mentality and how maybe we take this stuff just a little too seriously.
Cub fans, when the Cubbies finally win it will be a party. But take it from a Red Sox fan, overall your life doesn't change that much. And although your team is no longer lovable losers, your team becomes just another ball club. The intrigue and romance of the constant heartbreak all goes away.
Amazing that he has been in hiding for all these years refusing any interviews or in any way capitalizing on his infamy.
In looking at it again it was scary to say the least what was going on at Wrigley that night and the movie is great example of mob mentality and how maybe we take this stuff just a little too seriously.
Cub fans, when the Cubbies finally win it will be a party. But take it from a Red Sox fan, overall your life doesn't change that much. And although your team is no longer lovable losers, your team becomes just another ball club. The intrigue and romance of the constant heartbreak all goes away.
"No Mas" was brilliant. I won't spoil it except to say that the ending was a fair bit unconventional. And it isn't a spoiler to say that Sugar Ray Leonard comes off very well.kenneycb said:
I thought the Jimmy Connors one was great too. And in contrast to Sugar Ray, Jimmy does not come off very well. Always knew he was an asshole but jeez.
"Down and out, and then.... POW!!!! Sox Nation takes over!"
I could weep like a baby right now.
I could weep like a baby right now.
I remember where I was, what the weather was like, what I ate(not much) and drank(pretty much anything), and how I felt. Those memories will be with me for the rest of my life and hope to pass them down to my kids someday. The only thing I regret is not being home to watch it with my father.
Francona's comments about Schill made it a bit dusty in here given what's the current situation.
I love all the other parts of the bitch slap/hamburger helper play. CI being so pumped and jacked as he scored a run that didn't count and dumb yankee fans throwing stuff on the field for a call the umps got RIGHT. OCab giving the crybaby sign = also great
mascho said:
Yeah, I think about the people who had anything but support for the guy on the main board and just thought---how soon they forget.
Thanks for noting it was on...I have seen this video perhaps 15 times and the key plays a couple hundred each and still, it gets me every single time.
As I said over on Facebook, I DVR'd it when it was first on and have watkched it hundreds of times, yet when I come across it either on the guide or just flicking around I always stop and watchPedroKsBambino said:
Looking back to see the only thing you ever wanted come true
Last night's "Hillsborough" about the 1989 British soccer disaster that killed 96 was tough to watch but very well done. The head cop totally botched things the day it happened, and so the decision was made to brand the dead as drunken hooligans.
The family members had to fight for more than 20 years to get the truth told. It's definitely worth checking out.
The family members had to fight for more than 20 years to get the truth told. It's definitely worth checking out.
curly2 said:
Agreed, it was excellent, felt badly for the families, having their loved ones dragged through the mud like that.
One of the points made was at least 40 of the victims would have survived had they been treated at the scene.
Those fenced in SRO sections were death traps.
More discussion of Hillsborough is happening over in the Liverpool thread in the Gazza forum, for anyone interested. EDIT: For the lazy, discussion starts around here.
Agreed that it was tough to watch, but very well done. As a long distance Liverpool fan, I was aware of the story. But the presentation was very moving. The interviews with the police officers on the scene and how they felt as more information came to light in the past few years was particularly well done.
Agreed that it was tough to watch, but very well done. As a long distance Liverpool fan, I was aware of the story. But the presentation was very moving. The interviews with the police officers on the scene and how they felt as more information came to light in the past few years was particularly well done.
BAd Boys. Omg I hated that team. Perhaps more than any other ever in sports.
One thing, u look at that team and realize they would destroy the Heat teams of the last couple years. Rodman on Lebron?!?! Dumars v Wade. I'd pay to see that
One thing, u look at that team and realize they would destroy the Heat teams of the last couple years. Rodman on Lebron?!?! Dumars v Wade. I'd pay to see that
That was a fun watch, especially with the Celtics involvement.
Crazy to think about Parish just demolishing Laimbeer and not getting kicked out of the game. (I think he was suspended for the following game). What would be the penalty today if that were to happen?
Crazy to think about Parish just demolishing Laimbeer and not getting kicked out of the game. (I think he was suspended for the following game). What would be the penalty today if that were to happen?
Clears Cleaver said:
Under today's rules, the Bad Boy Piston teams would struggle to play .500 ball. All that clutching and grabbing away from the ball, handchecking and forcing post-up guys off the block limitations (which the Pistons did better than anyone) would be out the window and crackdown on physical play on guys driving to the hoop would have gutted that defense. They also wouldn't have been able to flop around inside the semi-circle (which Rodman and Laimbeer did frequently) to draw charges.
Today's Heat would gut the Bad Boys like a brook trout.
I despise those Detroit Pistons more than any other team in sports – including the New York Yankees. Even though they didn’t win the championship that year the 1987 Celtics are still my favorite basketball team. Larry Bird’s steal-and-pass to D.J. happened on my 18th birthday. That seven game series with the Pistons was epic. Some Sports Illustrated writer opined that the Celtics playoff run through the Eastern Conference was Apocalypse Now while the Lakers path through the West was Beach Blanket Bingo. Until I watched that documentary I had forgotten just how deep Detroit was while the only bench players of note Boston had were Fred Roberts and Jerry Sichting. McHale and Parrish were hurt and hobbled and Bill Walton was MIA for nearly all of the 1986-87 season. And then there wasn’t Len Bias…
Often overlooked was the previous series in which Don Nelson's Bucks took the Celtics to Game 7 and actually won Game 5 in Boston. The Celtic invincibility in The Garden was gone. Bird, McHale, Parrish, Johnson, and Ainge were running on fumes by June and yet they still made it to the Finals. Magic Johnson’s ‘Baby Sky-Hook’ at the end of Game 4 effectively ended the Celtics’ title hopes but they still pushed the Lakers to six games and even had a 56-51 lead at halftime of Game 6 in Los Angeles. IMHO, add Len Bias and a (relatively) healthy Bill Walton to that Celtics team and no one would remember ‘The Bad Boys’ today…
Often overlooked was the previous series in which Don Nelson's Bucks took the Celtics to Game 7 and actually won Game 5 in Boston. The Celtic invincibility in The Garden was gone. Bird, McHale, Parrish, Johnson, and Ainge were running on fumes by June and yet they still made it to the Finals. Magic Johnson’s ‘Baby Sky-Hook’ at the end of Game 4 effectively ended the Celtics’ title hopes but they still pushed the Lakers to six games and even had a 56-51 lead at halftime of Game 6 in Los Angeles. IMHO, add Len Bias and a (relatively) healthy Bill Walton to that Celtics team and no one would remember ‘The Bad Boys’ today…
He wasn't even called for a foul. The refs (this was still the two-ref era) were looking at the rebounding action and called a foul on Darren Daye. Neither one saw Parish hit Laimbeer. He was suspended for Game 6, but there was serious doubt that he would have played anyway because of his ankle, which became its own mini-controversy. The Pistons wanted him suspended for Game 7, because they assumed he wouldn't play in Game 6 anyway. And the Celtics were pissed because the league waited until after they made Parish get on the plane and travel to Detroit before suspending him, adding more trauma to the ankle.CantKeepmedown said:
Bad Boys was a solid film, but I was stunned by how little attention the producers paid to Vinnie Johnson. He saved that team's ass in multiple postseason games. Nothing about his coming off the bench to score 34 on 16-of-21 shooting vs the Celts in Game 4 in '85 -- the game that prompted Ainge to give him his nickname? Or coming back to score 30 in Game 5? How about going for 25, 20 & 24 in Games 4, 5 & 6 in '86? Not a word about him scoring 24 in Game 7 in '88, including 14 in the 2nd half, to finally vanquish the Celts? All we really got to see was his championship-clinching 15-foot J with less than a second left in Finals Game 5 against the Blazers in '90.
Spare us the trumped-up "I need more shots" Dantley vs "I'm better than him" Aguirre bullshit, which was a blip on the radar screen compared to what The Microwave meant to that Pistons team. Frankly, the head collision between Dantley & VJ in Game 7 in '87, which knocked them both out of that game before the infamous Bird steal, was far more important than any of the E! True Hollywood Story crap.
Spare us the trumped-up "I need more shots" Dantley vs "I'm better than him" Aguirre bullshit, which was a blip on the radar screen compared to what The Microwave meant to that Pistons team. Frankly, the head collision between Dantley & VJ in Game 7 in '87, which knocked them both out of that game before the infamous Bird steal, was far more important than any of the E! True Hollywood Story crap.
"Slaying the Badger" was fantastic last night! The 1986 Tour de France (LeMond vs Hinault) was incredible drama, and the storytelling here was very well done. I'm so glad they included a section at the end about LeMond's comeback in 1989 and riveting 8-second victory over Fignon.
For those who missed it, it sounds like it is on again Saturday at 4pm.
For those who missed it, it sounds like it is on again Saturday at 4pm.
Bumping this for tonight's installment on the 1989 San Francisco earthquake at the World Series. Riveting stuff.
Just saw the preview for Rand University, the Randy Moss story, airing Tuesday at 9:00pm on ESPN. I can't wait.
http://espn.go.com/30for30/film?page=randuniversity
http://espn.go.com/30for30/film?page=randuniversity
I just saw the episode about Livan and Orlando Hernandez, Brothers in Exile. Great stuff. While I remembered much of the big picture events the details were fantastic, except watching El Duque winning the WS with the Yankees.
