Aaron Boone is the new Yankee manager

[jon abbey]

Thought we should have a new thread for this, Tim Naehring has evidently been kicking ass in the Yankee front office and was rumored by some as a candidate, but is not interested.

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You can cross one name off the possible Yankees' managerial list. Tim Naehring just told me he is not interested in being considered. Naehring has become perhaps GM Brian Cashman's most trusted advisor, playing a big part in many moves, including the Didi Gregorius trade. Naehring, 50, seemed to check many of the boxes for what Cashman is looking for in his next manager. Naehring will likely be a potential GM candidate for teams soon.

Andrew Marchand, ESPN Senior Writer

 

[mauidano]

Brad Ausmus?

 

[EvilEmpire]

Brad Ausmus?

Why?

 

[Murderer's Crow]

Moved to this thread:

In 2017, what is a manager's role and job? What skills are important and in what order of priority? Based on the range of responses in all of the manager threads, there doesn't seem like a consensus.

So, if you were writing a job description, what would you add to your list of requirements? Below is my priority for the Yankees manager

Skills & Characteristics
Soft skills / Communication
Strong bullpen tactician (able to use both matchup analytics and ability to read the situation
Lineup building
Likability factor should be high

Experience
Player Management in the minors or majors
Strong ability to work with the media

Nice to have
MLB "coach" experience or previous manager
Big market familiarity
Association with the team in some form (prior player, prior coach...etc)

 

[jon abbey]

Media communication is especially crucial in NYC.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

Why?

Because we're Red Sox fans

 

[mauidano]

Because we're Red Sox fans

That'll do!

 

[CoffeeNerdness]

TIL Tim Naerhing is Brian Cashman's right hand man. Good for him.

 

[jon abbey]

This article implicitly explains why I don't think Al Pedrique (NY's AAA manager who is 57) is a serious candidate:

"Earlier this week, the Yankees announced that Joe Girardi will not return to manage the Bombers next season. But as Tom Verducci of Sports Illustrated points out, 53-year-old Girardi might not have lost the job due to the team’s performance or his body of work. The three oldest managers in baseball (Terry Collins, Dusty Baker and Pete Mackanin) all lost their jobs this season, and John Farrell (55) will be replaced by the 42-year-old Alex Cora. This points to a trend in baseball wherein the game is being run by younger players, and it might just be that the ability of younger managers to connect with those youthful stars is being seen as a major asset. Fluency in analytics is also becoming increasingly vital to the manager position. As Verducci also points out, World Series skippers Dave Roberts (45) and A.J. Hinch (43) both fit the bill for this type of “modern manager”. With Girardi lacking the youth and analytic mindset required for the new mold, the Yankees may have simply decided he is no longer relevant in today’s game."

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/10/east-notes-girardi-travis-braves.html

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

I was hoping the Red Sox would at least take a look at Naehring. I wonder how long it will take Jeter to swoop in and hire him as GM.

 

[Murderer's Crow]

Binder Joe now doesn’t have a analytic mindset? Come on

 

[jon abbey]

Binder Joe now doesn’t have a analytic mindset? Come on

I agree there's a lot of silly stuff about Girardi being tossed around in the wake of this firing, but I think what Verducci means there isn't whether he relied on analytics, but how adaptable he was to changing situations in a game, situations which aren't addressed in his pregame work for whatever reason.

 

[EvilEmpire]

Binder Joe now doesn’t have a analytic mindset? Come on

Exactly what I was just getting ready to post. The age thing is a bit of a reach too. He isn't that much older than Roberts or Hinch and has a lot of good experience to go with years he does have over them. Lack of communication skills and somewhat inflexible grinder style? Sure. I think Verducci is trying a little too hard.

 

[jon abbey]

Girardi is 53, Roberts is 45 and Hinch is 43. They're looking for a manager for the next decade, that's an immense difference.

And also he is an 'old' 53 when it comes to this job, if he had been doing something calm and relaxing for the past decade, I agree that his actual age would be much less of a factor. As it is, he seems to have aged 20 years in his 10 year tenure.

 

[BestGameEvah]

Just stunning what is going on this yr. wow.

 

[Couperin47]

There is nothing in the way Cashman and this team has operated for the last few years that would lead one to believe that they are cleaning house without a reasonable likelihood that they have a good idea of who they want as manager and are also reasonably certain they also know who he might want as a staff and that they are all reasonably available. We will find out reasonably quickly if all my assumption are reasonable...or I'm full of shit.

 

[jon abbey]

Cashman really seems to be cleaning house and putting together a new team, you need it to compete with the Astros and Dodgers of the world (both of whom have fantastic organizations currently).

Jon Heyman‏Verified account @JonHeyman 52m52 minutes ago

yanks want to hire player development position 1st, then manager. in manager most likely: strong on analytics, relatively young, outside org

 

[jon abbey]

Ken Rosenthal‏Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal

One name I’m hearing in connection with #Yankees’ job: Jerry Hairston Jr. In similar mold to Hinch, Roberts, Cora; won WS in 2009 with NYY.

 

[Wingack]

Ken Rosenthal‏Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal

One name I’m hearing in connection with #Yankees’ job: Jerry Hairston Jr. In similar mold to Hinch, Roberts, Cora; won WS in 2009 with NYY.

Interesting. Is he coaching anywhere even?

 

[jon abbey]

Interesting. Is he coaching anywhere even?

No, he has been a Dodgers broadcaster since retiring in 2013.

 

[Big John]

There was an article in the Post touting David Cone. He checks quite a few of the boxes. Cone is 54,

 

[jon abbey]

Jon Heyman‏Verified account @JonHeyman 1m1 minute ago

Yankees like Raul ibanez but the initial belief he wants to stay in dodgers role. NYY is working on list expected to be 20-25 candidates.

 

[Big John]

20-25 candidates? Cashman will be interviewing between now and April.

 

[JimD]

That number is almost certainly a smokescreen. I doubt Cashman advocated for Girardi's dismissal without having a short list of serious candidates.

 

[jon abbey]

I think it could be both, especially since he doesn't seem to be going after the typical candidates. He couldn't very well sound out Ibanez about the job while Girardi still had it, that would be easier to do if he wanted someone like Gardenhire or Ausmus (Jah forbid).

 

[Big John]

Maybe he's looking for the baseball equivalent of Brad Stevens, who also happens to speak fluent Spanish.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

The Yankees should start a trend of not having a manager but rather a series of coaches that execute the analytics departments game plan.

 

[Murderer's Crow]

20-25 people on the list is probably all-inclusive of the names they're considering. The number of people who they will actually consider for the job is probably just a couple. I'm betting every team had a list that large.

 

[Big John]

The Yankees should start a trend of not having a manager but rather a series of coaches that execute the analytics departments game plan.

Didn't the Cubs try that once (but without the analytics)?

 

[jon abbey]

NY promotes Kevin Reese to take Denbo's spot, now Cashman can focus on hiring the new manager:

http://nypost.com/2017/11/01/yankees-fill-key-exec-role-now-can-find-their-manager/

 

[jon abbey]

Joe Espada off the table, he takes Alex Cora's old job as Astros bench coach.

 

[jon abbey]

Mark Feinsand‏Verified account @Feinsand 10h10 hours ago

Source confirms Jerry Hairston Jr. is a candidate for Yankees managerial opening. @Ken_Rosenthal first to mention as a possibility.

 

[jon abbey]

Yankees and Red Sox both cleaning house with the manager and coaches to try to keep up with powerhouse organizations like the Dodgers and Astros.

 

[Murderer's Crow]

Yankees and Red Sox both cleaning house with the manager and coaches to try to keep up with powerhouse organizations like the Dodgers and Astros.

Also kind of a trend when a new manager takes over, no?

 

[jon abbey]

Definitely, but I think one reason that Girardi and Farrell were let go to begin with is that adequacy is no longer enough.

 

[jon abbey]

Kevin Long is the new hitting coach for NatsTown, so not coming back to the Bronx as was rumored.

 

[j-man]

i wouild go after showater from balt he wouild be a great 2-3 year fit and maybe he could bring guys like zach britton adam jones

 

[jon abbey]

Showalter is under contract still, so that is not happening, but it's not what Cashman wants anyway. Also NY doesn't need a pricy Britton or Jones, with all due respect.

 

[Rough Carrigan]

The Yankees should start a trend of not having a manager but rather a series of coaches that execute the analytics departments game plan.

Be like the old celtic tribes fighting the Romans. That guy you killed? That's not our king. Here's our king. Have a whole dugout full of guys going through elaborate signs to the 3rd base coach.

 

[jon abbey]

Someone in the other thread suggested Granderson, an idea I loved, but I just saw this from a couple of weeks ago:

"Granderson is viewed as one of the most thoughtful and philanthropic players in the game. So, he will have opportunities post-career. He said he does not want to manage, coach or work in a front office, however, but does want to stay involved in the game."

http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/curtis-grandersons-next-step-could-be-a-unique-one/

 

[edoug]

Someone in the other thread suggested Granderson, an idea I loved, but I just saw this from a couple of weeks ago:

"Granderson is viewed as one of the most thoughtful and philanthropic players in the game. So, he will have opportunities post-career. He said he does not want to manage, coach or work in a front office, however, but does want to stay involved in the game."

http://nypost.com/2017/10/24/curtis-grandersons-next-step-could-be-a-unique-one/

Thoughtful and philanthropic are not attributes that usually describe managers or head coaches.

 

[Rough Carrigan]

Thoughtful and philanthropic are not attributes that usually describe managers or head coaches.

Obviously, you've never been to the Earl Weaver room at the Isabella Stewart Gardner museum.

But, seriously, what is going on? The lack of any news of action here is very odd. Did they really not have a specific candidate in mind before they fired Giardi? Did another team beat them to their top choice? What is going on?

 

[jon abbey]

I think that Cashman probably had a candidate or two in mind, specifically Raul Ibanez, but he couldn't approach them to see if they were interested until Girardi was gone. I think that Cashman wants to put someone in place for the next decade and he doesn't want to rush into that decision, especially since it's only the second time in his 20 years as NY GM that he's gotten to hire a manager, and the first time (replacing Torre) was confined to a few in-house candidates (Girardi, Mattingly, I think there was a third one).

So I think he's looking for an ex-player, probably under 45, who will connect with the players and be good with the media. I think that probably describes quite a few people, so Cashman will talk to a bunch of them and see who he feels most comfortable with going forward. Jerry Hairston Jr. seems to be the most rumored candidate currently.

Also, not sure where I saw this, but Cashman talked about this today and one thing he said was very interesting, that he would allow candidates to talk to the media after he interviewed them, so presumably that will be part of his process?

 

[jon abbey]

Here is an OK piece about what Cashman said today (although it leaves out my point above, but I definitely read that somewhere):

http://riveraveblues.com/2017/11/cashman-yankees-parted-ways-with-girardi-over-concerns-he-didnt-communicate-and-connect-with-players-162985/

 

[jon abbey]

This piece is interesting too:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21317291/brian-cashman-cites-connectivity-new-york-yankees-clubhouse-joe-girardi-firing

 

[Big John]

Well, I'm not in love with what any of the other teams did. If you look over the hires, I don't see the next Joe Maddon or Bruce Bochy in the bunch.

What the hell, I'm voting for Ozzie Guillen. Is there anyone more entertaining?

 

[Rough Carrigan]

Ozzie Guillen went nuts for little ball in the early 2000's at the height of the steroid era explosion of offenses. You want that sort of big picture wisdom?

 

[Big John]

Ozzie Guillen went nuts for little ball in the early 2000's at the height of the steroid era explosion of offenses. You want that sort of big picture wisdom?

But he won a championship in 2005 with Konerko, Jermaine Dye and Red Sox castoff Carl Everett, all of whom hit the long ball.

They laughed when the Yankees hired Stengel in 1948 at age 57. The NY writers pointed out that he had never won a thing and wasn't serious about the game.

 

[Rough Carrigan]

But he won a championship in 2005 with Konerko, Jermaine Dye and Red Sox castoff Carl Everett, all of whom hit the long ball.

They laughed when the Yankees hired Stengel in 1948 at age 57. The NY writers pointed out that he had never won a thing and wasn't serious about the game.

My mistake. You typed Ozzie Guillen and I brainlocked in Tony Pena. I forgot all about Ozzie.

 

[Big John]

My mistake. You typed Ozzie Guillen and I brainlocked in Tony Pena. I forgot all about Ozzie.

No mistake. LOL, I deserve to be criticized for suggesting Guillen, who is a loose cannon. The NY Post would have a field day if he were hired. His comments about Fidel Castro got him run out of Florida, and last year Guillen was managing in the Venezuelan league. But I want to be entertained, and how much difference do managers really make? Good players win, especially good pitching. Managers just go along for the ride. If Cora is 5 games better than Farrell I'll be shocked.