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I mean Duke fouled like four times before that legit but they didn’t call it but Duke didn’t earn a win today
 

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What a performance. Tremendous coaching job from Christian, and incredible play, especially by the starting 5.

Just an amazing performance. When BC blew the 10 point lead and fell behind by 4 in the second half, I just didn't think they could get it done, especially when Chatman missed the open layup, which lead to the Duke transition and the 4 point gap late

These kids deserve this so much considering how hard they work, and how much bad luck they have had
 

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Really nice how BC lost control of the game with about 3 mintues to go (down 5 and without the ball) ....and grabbed it right back again!
 

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Oh ye of little faith, eh oh ME of little faith

I watched the first half, figured Dookie would wake up and run away in 2nd and win going away

I sat in the car listening to the 2nd half in the Trader Joe’s parking lot
Thank god i dvr’d the 2nd half
 

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There were a few more than 873 at that game....If they win it, they will come I guess. Just hope they don't blow all the good will with a shitstorm performance tonight against that juggernaut from NYC....No, not St. John's, but Columbia.
 

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Possession to take a lead late...and Nik Popovic takes a three pointer. One later, a travel. While their guys make two straight treys. Inside two minutes, a fallaway airball with 25 left on the shot clock. There is no discipline on this team. They fight but the tactical coaching just isnt there. They need their opponents to give them games like Duke did. And then can't grab a rebound with a chance to get a last minute shot. Then can't inbound the basketball. The more f'ing Nik Popovic.

Its hard to crap on Christian given the effort this year, but the late game management is just atrocious. If he had a mustache I'd think Addazio coached both teams.
 
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Great points; I noticed the same. When they play against a poorly coached, inexperienced team that gives away the game then they can take it but today they played a great coach, experienced squad.

Regardless, BC is a huge pleasant surprise so far this year and is showing how freaking deep the ACC is.
 

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Refs were awfully friendly to the Eagles in that one. That ending was absurd.

In any case, BC looks like a really solid team this year, which is great to see.
 

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I think I just saw Bowman on the back of a milk carton. What a garbage game from him. And I know he tries hard but I hate watching Popovic. Kid just isn’t very good.
 

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Possession to take a lead late...and Nik Popovic takes a three pointer. One later, a travel. While their guys make two straight treys. Inside two minutes, a fallaway airball with 25 left on the shot clock. There is no discipline on this team. They fight but the tactical coaching just isnt there. They need their opponents to give them games like Duke did. And then can't grab a rebound with a chance to get a last minute shot. Then can't inbound the basketball. The more f'ing Nik Popovic.

Its hard to crap on Christian given the effort this year, but the late game management is just atrocious. If he had a mustache I'd think Addazio coached both teams.
Come on, now Duke freaking gave them the game. The kids outplayed Duke, and the coach out coached them. Dukle didn't give BC anything.

Now today, they play a top 10 team on the road, and their best player is terrible. And they battle to the final possession.

On the never happened inbound pass, Chatman threw a bad pass, otherwise you have JR open for a 16 footer. On the second one, not sure what the play was, others have stated Pops had an open man to hand off to, but didn't I didn't see that in my one look.

Honestly if I were to criticize it would probably be the decision not to call TO on the initial possession at the end. The last thing they needed in that situation with the way Ky played was to have Ky go Isolation at the top and attempt a poor drive into the heart of the UVA D.

It is honestly amazing that after losing a top 3 player, that this team is hanging in as much as they are. I hope they can stay healthy the rest of the way, because they deserve a break. They are a good basketball team right now
 

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Come on, now Duke freaking gave them the game. The kids outplayed Duke, and the coach out coached them. Dukle didn't give BC anything.

Now today, they play a top 10 team on the road, and their best player is terrible. And they battle to the final possession.

On the never happened inbound pass, Chatman threw a bad pass, otherwise you have JR open for a 16 footer. On the second one, not sure what the play was, others have stated Pops had an open man to hand off to, but didn't I didn't see that in my one look.

Honestly if I were to criticize it would probably be the decision not to call TO on the initial possession at the end. The last thing they needed in that situation with the way Ky played was to have Ky go Isolation at the top and attempt a poor drive into the heart of the UVA D.

It is honestly amazing that after losing a top 3 player, that this team is hanging in as much as they are. I hope they can stay healthy the rest of the way, because they deserve a break. They are a good basketball team right now
You're one of the guys I read with the most attention on here so I don't write this to oppose you but I will say that they look continuously lost on offense late in games. They were against Duke, they most certainly were yesterday. They were against Texas Tech late.

This isn't a conversation about whether the kids fight, they clearly do. But they are completely ill-prepared late. Its Addazio in a sportcoat - better talent level, kids fight, but they are going to need someone else coaching them if they want to take the next step. I watch almost every game, and yes I am harder on the teams I care about than the opposition, but it amazes me how consistently under Christian this team has been in position at the 10 minute mark to win a game and then have no plan to win it late. I was actually surprised they beat that 2-10 (or whatever they were) Richmond team late.

I agree for the kids sake they catch some breaks, just like I did for the football team, but the coaching is a net negative in both programs, and I am very very worried both guys are just mediocre enough that Jarmond can't get them out.
 

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You're one of the guys I read with the most attention on here so I don't write this to oppose you but I will say that they look continuously lost on offense late in games. They were against Duke, they most certainly were yesterday. They were against Texas Tech late.

This isn't a conversation about whether the kids fight, they clearly do. But they are completely ill-prepared late. Its Addazio in a sportcoat - better talent level, kids fight, but they are going to need someone else coaching them if they want to take the next step. I watch almost every game, and yes I am harder on the teams I care about than the opposition, but it amazes me how consistently under Christian this team has been in position at the 10 minute mark to win a game and then have no plan to win it late. I was actually surprised they beat that 2-10 (or whatever they were) Richmond team late.

I agree for the kids sake they catch some breaks, just like I did for the football team, but the coaching is a net negative in both programs, and I am very very worried both guys are just mediocre enough that Jarmond can't get them out.
I’m on Team 4 6 3 here. I think Christian has done a very good job of maximizing the talent he has (Hawkins’ injury was a killer) but this team very rarely executes down the stretch in close games against good teams. Duke was seemingly an outlier.

This was a very winnable game and would have been huge. No shame in losing to UVA on the road but this program needs a bump. Close calls won’t bring the recruits in. They need more marquee wins and damn near got one yesterday.
 

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You're one of the guys I read with the most attention on here so I don't write this to oppose you but I will say that they look continuously lost on offense late in games. They were against Duke, they most certainly were yesterday. They were against Texas Tech late.
Still a bit confused on you position on the Duke game. BC scored 20 points on their last 11 possessions against Duke,scoring on 9/11 possessions with 1 of the 2 failed because Chatman missed an uncontested layup. Do you think they were lost on offense down the stretch in that game?

TTU they scored 2 points in the final 4+ minutes, absolutely terrible.

UVA, they were outscored by Virginia 8-7 over the last 5 minutes of the game. UVA is a deep veteran team, and arguably the best defensive team in the country. It's a loss and it hurts, and heck it might cost Christian his job (depending on how the season works out this loss might keep them from postseason) . I will admit I was out with my family on only saw about the last 70 seconds of the UVA game, so I can;t comment as much on how coaching was down the stretch .

And yes there were coaching mistakes, and there were player mistakes. As stated earlier in the thread I would have called timeout and given JR the ball with 10 seconds to play rather than calling the isolation to Ky, but on that play you see how just a small mistake costs them (as well as lack of depth). Mitchell who UVA has no real reason to cover anyway was setting a pick at the top, when Ky decides to go to the right side, Mitchell drops down towards the post on the left side, which brings the UVA shotblocker to the middle of the paint, so when 1.5 seconds later Ky gets there it is just an easy shot block. Freshman mistake, if Mitchell stays high, Wilkins never gets there.
 

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Maybe my recollection on Duke was off. I remember Baker Jr going into that game and looking like he'd never seen a basketball before. As I look back, it was earlier in the second half where with a lead they scored 2 points in 4 minutes and basically pissed the ball around. They did stabilize late, so I will pull back about the Duke comment.

Your analysis is probably spot on with it not all being coaching, but Im just tired of what it seems to me to be the same crap again and again.
 

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First half no show, end of game wasn't awful, just another one of those games that you'd expect to try and pull out. I feel like Christian is absolutely the wrong guy but he does get them to play hard. Its a bummer for the kids.
 

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Just a dagger again tonight. Honestly they couldn't have looked more over matched than they did much of the first half, it felt like Clemson has an extra defender in the game. And then what an amazing second half. . So close on that JR jumper that rattled around, I thought for sure it was in.
 

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Is a pattern developing here? What I mean is they are close but not quite there. 2 games in a row where they had chances to win but didn't. Frustrating.
 

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Is a pattern developing here? What I mean is they are close but not quite there. 2 games in a row where they had chances to win but didn't. Frustrating.
We'll see, Obviously 1 game was against a legitimate top 10 team the other against a legitimate top 25 team.

The question is what happens when they drop to games against middle and lower level ACC teams. Honestly, I don't think it is ever going to be easy for this team. I suspect with the exception of the 1 OOC game, just about every game from here out will be decided by less than 10 points, and honestly I think the vast majority will probably be within 5 in the last 2 minutes.

The Hawkins injury just made it so tough for these guys, good chance they are 3-0 in conference and sitting in the top 20 if he had not been injured
 

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Late minute fold in progress. Seems unlikely (up 5 with the ball with 26 seconds left) but they were up 12 with 1:30 left.

Edit: Good win. One they had to have, but this team is playing very solid basketball right now
 

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Late minute fold in progress. Seems unlikely (up 5 with the ball with 26 seconds left) but they were up 12 with 1:30 left.

Edit: Good win. One they had to have, but this team is playing very solid basketball right now
Yup ... makes you think about what could’ve been if Hawkins didn’t get hurt. They are very thin.
 

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BC just got a commitment from top 100 four star recruit Jarius Hamilton. This is the best get in a long time.
Huge get. Scored 32 on Oak Hill and exactly the kind of player we’re lacking this year. Christian is doing a good job this year.
 

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Watching Popovic break FSU's press all game and lead the ball up the court has been incredible.
yeah, when Pop gets it going he is fun to watch. He had 5 blocks in the first half starting with blocking the 7'3 monster on a dunk attempt on the first play of the game. I know he has moments where he can be frustrating, but he is really playing well
 

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I'm also really impressed by Mitchell, hes going to be a pretty good player. The Hawkins injury is really unfortunate, have to think they'd be somewhere in the top 15-20 with him.
 

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Definitely gotta give them credit, I didn't see it at all and while they still struggle down the stretch they are a legit team night in and out.
 

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Definitely gotta give them credit, I didn't see it at all and while they still struggle down the stretch they are a legit team night in and out.
You have to expect the stretch will be tough given the lack of depth. Just fun to even utter the word bubble.
 

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Tough game today, BC had a pretty dismal performance for the most part, but had cut the lead down to 2 inside of 40 seconds.

Bowman will have nightmares on this one 7 turnovers. 3-11 from 3point , 2 of 11 from 2 points (almost all drives to hoop), and of course fouls out late.

Louisville scores I think the last 6 and wins by 8

Turns our Robinson was violently ill during the game. He had another pretty remarkably game considering that. Hard to almost imagine now, but I would think most BC fans had Bowman as the better player coming into the year
 
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Just a random note - I mentioned this in my Diary of a Commentator thread in the Media forum, but while researching a basketball game I'm commentating on this weekend in the Liga Americas, I discovered that is a professional (or possibly semi-pro) basketball team in Chile called "Club Deportivo Boston College". (It's got its own club website and everything; disappointingly, its colors are blue and yellow.) I assume nobody here has any clue why that might be the case?
 

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Another game with just no plan late. Save for a kid getting a tech on a three, vt consistently outperformed and outcoached bc when it counted.

I hope we can keep the kid from NC and bring in a non MAC coach who can run a real acc program but I do think Martin will get his chance to hire a coach this off-season.
 

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They couldn’t get stops in overtime. There’s plenty to like on this roster. Hope they bring in a coach that can put this team in the tournament next year. It’s way been way too long.
 

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Next year is do or die for Christian. Robinson/Bowman as upper classmen with Gibbs/Hamilton coming in. That needs to be a bubble team.
 

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Exactly. They've been bad so long and the prorgram/recruiting finally seems to be on an uptick.

Next year at this time; however, they can't be at the same level they are now.
 

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Next year is do or die for Christian. Robinson/Bowman as upper classmen with Gibbs/Hamilton coming in. That needs to be a bubble team.
Tabbs not Gibbs, but yes the point is corrent

No comments on what was just a very gutty win out there. It felt like they got screwed on the last couple calls to Robinson. Robinson fouled out with 3:12 to play, and after the FT's BC down by 3. it even got to 4 with 1:52 to play, and they managed to dig in and get the tie in regulation as Pop made a ncie play to set up Mitchell who drilled the 3.

The oft maligned Defense stepped up and held GT to one basket in the final 6:50, and that was a spinning fall away 12 footer from their Center (tip the cap to the kid for making that)
 

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Any idea who the guy on the bench is wearing the bow tie? Manager, injured player, coach? Puts on quite a show.