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Detts

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9th highest paid coach, #1 recruiting budget, top 10 facilities, 40-38 vs. B1G last 4 years. But, yeah, tough business.


This is why he needed to go.

Edit: And all of his assistants were former head coaches.
 

Drocca

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Great hire. Young guy on the rise with a defined system and tremendous coaching lineage. Best hire they've made in decades.
 

PaulinMyrBch

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MYRTLE BEACH!!!!
HoopDirt teasing that another Power 5 school will have an opening today.
Lots of grumbling at Clemson that Brownell may be out. 2.5 hour meeting with AD this morning. No real news other than the coach said it "was productive". But word is they want Will Wade (Clemson alum) and current VCU coach. He interviewed for the NCState job and someone connected to that process said he was going to Clemson. This feels similar to the way DRad replaced the baseball coach. So news on this may be soon.
 

RingoOSU

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If Mike Holder isn't fired before OSU hires its next basketball coach, the program that gave the sport the Iba coaching tree is dead.
Now I'm reading not only did Holder massively lowball Underwood, underwood quit without the courtesy of asking for a counter offer once he got a better offer. Fuck them both, I don't care how much of an idiotic asshole Holder is, Underwood handled this horribly.
 
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JimD

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Boeheim just showed Wildhack who's boss on the hill. Good for Hopkins for not letting any more jobs go by.

Boeheim decided he wanted to stay longer. Hopkins tired of waiting. Find with actions of both
Does Boeheim even recruit anymore? Hope that Hopkins took G-Mac or Autry on a few of his road trips to show them the ropes. I don't think this ends well for Boeheim or Syracuse basketball.
 

gars finnvold

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JT3 is out at Georgetown. This is pretty remarkable given that they just opened a new athletic center after his father.
 

moondog80

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JT3 is out at Georgetown. This is pretty remarkable given that they just opened a new athletic center after his father.
I'd have conflicting feelings over this as a RI native and Georgetown alum, but Danny Hurley makes sense.
 

Ale Xander

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Twitter buzz for Ewing to get that job. 15 year NBA assistant. I don't think he would do that to 3 though, they're close to family. You never know though
 

MetSox1

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I'd have conflicting feelings over this as a RI native and Georgetown alum, but Danny Hurley makes sense.
Without looking at current contracts, and assuming that doesn't matter because there's no buyout that Gtown won't buy, the first two names that came to my mind were Hurley and Archie Miller. Not a lot of HC's who are considered hot names at the sub power 5 level right now
 

MillarTime

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Seeing some buzz on Tommy Amaker to GU as well. Could be a good landing spot for Crean too, no?
 

moondog80

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Adam Katz mentioned Patrick Ewing. He has been an assistant in the NBA last 15 years so it wouldn't be 100% faith in nostalgia (as opposed to Mullin or Drexler), but running a college program is such a different animal. And it's just time for a change..I'm 44 years old and I've never been alive for a game that wasn't coached by Thompson, Thompson's longtime assistant, or Thompson's son.
 

gars finnvold

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I have heard the buzz about Ewing as well. I don't know that he would necessarily want to take on the responsibility of being a head coach. He made a boatload during his career and can now keep a hand in the game without having to be the point person. I am not saying he couldn't do it, just that it may not be what he wants to do.

I also agree that college is completely a completely different from the pros. Recruiting has always been an essential element but it never seems to end. At least in the NBA you can focus on the Xs and Os and managing the personalities of your team while letting the GM keep an eye out for what needs to happen 3 or 6 months from now in terms of roster composition/construction.

As an alum, I disappointed because I liked JT3 and wanted him to succeed, but the program has been steadily going downhill and he doesn't seem to have an idea how to change its direction. Aside from the poor performance over the last two years, my guess is that the top recruit asking to be let out of his letter of commitment was the straw that broke the camel's back.
 

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I have heard the buzz about Ewing as well. I don't know that he would necessarily want to take on the responsibility of being a head coach. He made a boatload during his career and can now keep a hand in the game without having to be the point person. I am not saying he couldn't do it, just that it may not be what he wants to do.

I also agree that college is completely a completely different from the pros. Recruiting has always been an essential element but it never seems to end. At least in the NBA you can focus on the Xs and Os and managing the personalities of your team while letting the GM keep an eye out for what needs to happen 3 or 6 months from now in terms of roster composition/construction.

As an alum, I disappointed because I liked JT3 and wanted him to succeed, but the program has been steadily going downhill and he doesn't seem to have an idea how to change its direction. Aside from the poor performance over the last two years, my guess is that the top recruit asking to be let out of his letter of commitment was the straw that broke the camel's back.
As a fellow alum (Hoya Saxa, man) I couldn't be happier. I was there during the doldrums of the Craig Esherick era and a Final Four with JT3 shortly after graduating gave me hope of the program rebounding. They then proceeded to puke on their sneakers every year. I wanted him to succeed as well and it seemed like he would, but end of day he didn't. And it was going downhill.

Six straight first round exits to a lower seed, including some pretty big upsets? 5-13 in the Big East this year? As you say, top recruit backing out?

It was time. He rode his dad's coattails and his Princeton offense for as far and long as he could.

Ewing has been angling for a head coaching gig for years, mostly NBA, but he could recruit kids in his sleep. Kids would swarm to go play for Ewing at gtown and while recruiting is a hassle, it's not a comp to football. The overall season length isn't that different than what he's already working in the NBA. Hurley would be solid as well. I wouldn't mind them going after a big assistant and making a fresh start though.
 

moondog80

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Kids would swarm to go play for Ewing at gtown.
Would they? My guess is most high school kids have no idea who he is. I guess maybe the parents could be star struck, but has Chris Mullin been lighting up the recruiting trail at St John's?
 

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Would they? My guess is most high school kids have no idea who he is. I guess maybe the parents could be star struck, but has Chris Mullin been lighting up the recruiting trail at St John's?
Swarm may be too strong a word, but I'd wager most kids would know who Patrick Ewing is before they'd know who Chris Mullin is. I also can't remember when the last time St John's was relevant.

And of course parents weigh in on the recruiting process. There's a load of talent in the Mid Atlantic region that ends up elsewhere and I'm sure most know who he is. Even the tradition of him and the other players coming back to practice and train with the young guys would help. His name would be far more relevant to them than JT, at the very least.

Edit: the main problem is I don't ever see the school being okay with 'one and done' type players, so it's an uphill battle. Doesn't mean they can't be back in the picture though.
 

bosockboy

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Swarm may be too strong a word, but I'd wager most kids would know who Patrick Ewing is before they'd know who Chris Mullin is. I also can't remember when the last time St John's was relevant.

And of course parents weigh in on the recruiting process. There's a load of talent in the Mid Atlantic region that ends up elsewhere and I'm sure most know who he is. Even the tradition of him and the other players coming back to practice and train with the young guys would help. His name would be far more relevant to them than JT, at the very least.

Edit: the main problem is I don't ever see the school being okay with 'one and done' type players, so it's an uphill battle. Doesn't mean they can't be back in the picture though.
Well Mullin is also a Dream Teamer, I doubt the difference between the two is that great.
 

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Patrick Ewing was the best player on a decent to good team in the biggest market for 15 years. Chris Mullin was the best player for relatively mediocre teams whose city most people probably didn't know. There's a big difference.
 

moondog80

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Patrick Ewing was the best player on a decent to good team in the biggest market for 15 years. Chris Mullin was the best player for relatively mediocre teams whose city most people probably didn't know. There's a big difference.

I'd agree Ewing > Mullin, but it's not like he was a transcendent name like Bird or Magic or LeBron that everyone will always have some sense of. And both were in the "grizzled vet playing 18 minutes a game" portion of their NBA careers when the kids currently being recruited were born. I don't think either name carries much value with 16 year olds.
 

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Indian fans I imagine are not pleased.
The "sane" IU fans are fine with it.... (like Me)

some IU fans are moaning and groaning because of the endless BD/brad stevens speculation/fixation.... anything less then them is a let down for those people
 

bosockboy

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Can't believe Marshall wasn't an option. There aren't many blue blood jobs to hold out for. Unless he wants to build the Gonzaga of the Midwest.