Celtics acquire Bol Bol, PJ Dozier for Juancho Hernangomez

[Cellar-Door]

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Celtics gave SA cash, DEN hillariously insisted on 31-33 protection on the 2nd for a guy who is probably 11 or 12 right now.

 

[nighthob]

People cite OKC being below threshhold and that certainly makes them able to take the salary---but they are I would guess oretty strongly they are totally indifferent to whether they pay it to their own existing players or new players. So you have to incent them to take on money. People sometimes think abotu the floor as "they have to get to it or else" and that is not how it is structured in NBA.

The incentive is that Boston is paying the salaries and saving OKC $4 million.

 

[JM3]

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Celtics gave SA cash, DEN hillariously insisted on 31-33 protection on the 2nd for a guy who is probably 11 or 12 right now.

Joke's going to be on them when there are 34 teams in the NBA by then

 

[HomeRunBaker]

Joke's going to be on them when there are 34 teams in the NBA by then

This is actually very interesting. There will almost certainly be teams in Vegas and Seattle well before 2028 but so the Nuggets have additional information on a third city that would create imbalance? That doesn’t appear to be logical to have a 33-team league. Weird.

 

[Deathofthebambino]

I thought PJ Dozier played running back for Penn State in the 1980's.

Maybe that was DJ Dozier. I think DJ may be more useful for the C's than PJ....

With respect to Bol, if you're going to trade for a guy, you just cannot pass up the opportunity to get a guy who just had a trade snuffed out because he can't physically play.

Of course, losing Juancho may be addition by subtraction.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

This is a case where I might parse Woj's words. "Boston has no immediate plans to waive Dozier or Bol - certainly not before the trade deadline."

No plans to waive them before the deadline. That's less of a commitment than it sounds like. "No plans to lock in a $4 million cap hit before the deadline" is kind of a no brainer. I would still be thinking hotel rather than leased apartment if I was Dozier or Bol.

On further review, your reading is likely more accurate than mine.

I actually meant Dozier, who is an NBA player I think. Though as with all Celtics guards... he can't shoot at all. He'd be interesting in an end of the roster kind of way if we move on from Smart.

Why can't we get guys like this?

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

It would be shocking if NBA teams don't use some form of boilerplate language that contemplates a change in league composition when it comes to draft capital changing hands or how the league bylaws contemplate how picks are awarded in the event of expansion/contraction. But the KG Axiom holds here.

It still doesn't change the fact that @JM3 made a joke and "classic us" fashion, it flew over our heads and we will now have a five page discourse on what is, frankly, an interesting little topic.

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Joke's going to be on them when there are 34 teams in the NBA by then

I wonder if the wording is really "31-33" or if it is actually "picks 1-3 of round 2" and shortened to 31-33 by the writer.

Edit: And I see DeJesus is already riding that horse

 

[JM3]

It would be shocking if NBA teams don't use some form of boilerplate language that contemplates a change in league composition when it comes to draft capital changing hands or how the league bylaws contemplate how picks are awarded in the event of expansion/contraction. But the KG Axiom holds here.

It still doesn't change the fact that @JM3 made a joke and "classic us" fashion, it flew over our heads and we will now have a five page discourse on what is, frankly, an interesting little topic.

I found it an interesting thing, too, but chose to introduce it with a joke.

 

[ShaneTrot]

My son played against him. This picture is of my son (33) trying to block him. They were 14/15 years old at the time.

 

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

I found it an interesting thing, too, but chose to introduce it with a joke.

I now legit want to know how the league bylaws contemplate expansion/contraction with regard to draft picks, compensation etc.

 

[E5 Yaz]

My son played against him. This picture is of my son (33) trying to block him. They were 14/15 years old at the time.
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Was it a 1 on 4 game?

 

[The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa]

The Fall Bol two bigs lineup is going to be epic.

The commercial potential of the Tacko Bol combo will be epic.

 

[Cellar-Door]

Was it a 1 on 4 game?

every time Bol Bol touches the ball it's 1 on 5

 

[HomeRunBaker]

every time Bol Bol touches the ball it's 1 on 5

This simply is not a fair characterization of Bol’s game…….he almost had an assist once at Oregon.

 

[Kliq]

Bol has some physical potential but it's an enormous red flag that he never got playing time in Denver, a franchise that is great at developing late-round picks and also has no depth and has had to play a lot of meh players a lot of minutes this season.

 

[ShaneTrot]

Was it a 1 on 4 game?

He was a big deal, he played on a club team. What was weird was he never really tried to play in the paint, he took a bunch of 3 pointers. He was a black hole, if the ball was passed to him, he was going to shoot it. He did not like anyone leaning on him.

 

[mcpickl]

If I'm understanding this right, Boston got rid of Hernangomez without giving up any assets. Other than the fact that you lose his potential salary ballast, this seems like a no brainer.

What I'm struggling to understand is why anyone took Hernangomez without receiving any assets.

This was a pretty fortunate circumstance for Boston.

Denver needed to dump off close to the same amount of money that Forbes makes to stay under the tax, so needed to dump both Bol/Dozier.

San Antonio has a full roster, so to take both guys they'd have to waive one of their own guys to make the trade work.

Enter Boston who has one junk guy in Juancho, an empty roster spot after waiving Jabari so they can take both Bol/Dozier, and with San Antonio well under the tax line taking on the bigger salary in Juancho doesn't affect them at all with Boston paying them more than pro-rated difference in the salaries .

Win win win

 

[Eddie Jurak]

What is San Antiono in it for? Just the pick or are they should to somehow turn Juancho into a useful player?

 

[PedroKsBambino]

Likely a combo of a pick, some cash, and possibility they like or can use Juancho.

 

[Humphrey]

This trade has upside in that we all get to experience the upside of not having to watch Juancho play anymore.

Bob Knight said that in so many words about a team he had in the mid 80s when he was still winning championships. Well Done, Billy!

Getting back to Juancho, not too many Celtics I can think of worse than he. Remember that morbidly obsese guy, Hamilton (sp?) who played in the ML Carr error?

 

[Phil Plantier]

Bob Knight said that in so many words about a team he had in the mid 80s when he was still winning championships. Well Done, Billy!

Getting back to Juancho, not too many Celtics I can think of worse than he. Remember that morbidly obsese guy, Hamilton (sp?) who played in the ML Carr error?

You take that back about Thomas Hamilton. He was much better than Brett Szabo.

 

[bosockboy]

Thoughts and prayers to all the Pistons fans with Bol Bol jerseys.

 

[Marbleheader]

What is the rationale for not allowing trade exceptions to be combined? They have an expiration date, so they need to be used or lost. It's not like a team can hoard them for years and years.