Colin Cowherd: Yeah, he'll say it if no one else will

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Okay, so... the guy is kind of a clown. He's mostly just an entertainer and he's usually full of it...

But today's show (at least the 20 minutes I listened to) was brilliant. He tore the Yankees to shreds over the Ellsbury signing. Some of his gems include:

"Do you want to chase headlines, or do you want to be analytically superior like the Cardinals and Red Sox?"

"You know who's not panicking this morning? The Red Sox. They've got a young star at shortstop and a young star in center."

"The Red Sox have gotten astoundingly good at letting guys go."

"'If Jacoby Ellsbury stays healthy, this will be a great move' Yeah, and if Lindsey Lohan stays out of trouble, she'll be the next Meryl Streep."
 

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Weird week. I watched Bayless and Smith (my kid had the remote, I swear) attack with gusto those who still bring up Spygate and then sing the praises of Robert Kraft and the Patriots offense over the past seven seasons.
 

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Has he gone through a segment without mentioning Lindsay Lohan?
 

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Yeah....somehow this doesn't trouble me as a Yankees fan.
 
Cowherd or the signing?
 
Cuz one of them should.
 

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Cowherd is unlistenable to me.  I have zero respect for his opinion on the Yankees signing Jacoby Ellsbury.
 
Whoa.
 
Hey Pete Williams
 
 

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As someone who only remembers Colin Cowherd from the FJM days, it mostly just stuns me that he would care / feign caring about which teams are "analytically superior". Wow.
 

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I heard Cowherd go off for several minutes about how the non-PI call on Gronk didn't matter because the Pats shouldn't have put themselves in that position in the first place.  And that's one of the smartest things I've heard him say.
 

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inoffensiv philosophy said:
As someone who only remembers Colin Cowherd from the FJM days, it mostly just stuns me that he would care / feign caring about which teams are "analytically superior". Wow.
 
Yeah this was my reaction too.  I'm sure he's a guy who thinks that RBIs and wins are the two most important stats in baseball, but when he has the opportunity to cause a stir he pulls shit like this out of his ass.
 
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Colin Cowherd is a godsend for those people driving cross country without a CD player or Satellite radio or I guess now some NTSB/local PD-approved adapter for MP3 players/Ipods etc.
 
The other choices in flyover country are usually Laura Ingraham and Rush.
 
Cowherd is a godsend.
 

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Colin Cowherd is a godsend for those people driving cross country without a CD player or Satellite radio or I guess now some NTSB/local PD-approved adapter for MP3 players/Ipods etc.
 
The other choices in flyover country are usually Laura Ingraham and Rush.
 
Cowherd is a godsend.
 
:iseewhatyoudidthere:
 

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inoffensiv philosophy said:
As someone who only remembers Colin Cowherd from the FJM days, it mostly just stuns me that he would care / feign caring about which teams are "analytically superior". Wow.
 
Well, he is feigning. He's using it as a talking point to justify his shallow rant which, as far as I can tell from my limited exposure to him, is all engages in all day.
 

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Dan to Theo to Ben said:
Colin Cowherd is a godsend for those people driving cross country without a CD player or Satellite radio or I guess now some NTSB/local PD-approved adapter for MP3 players/Ipods etc.
 
The other choices in flyover country are usually Laura Ingraham and Rush.
 
Cowherd is a godsend.
 
You really haven't been to flyover country much have you? It's like you want to joke on these yokels but you're the one driving through there with no CD player, satellite radio, or ipod.
 

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I remember that within one hour of the Sox winning the World Series Cowherd was on television saying that Ortiz should not have won the MVP since he is an obvious juicer.
 
I have no respect for him and I turn the channel anytime I see him on.
 

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I'd rather be deaf for the rest of my life than listen to one minute of Colin Cowherd.
Steven A Smith is worse, so much worse. 
 

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Steven A Smith is worse, so much worse. 
 
This is so not true. Smith is obnoxious, but he knows something about sports. Cowherd is obnoxious, and knows nothing about anything. When he got the national gig, many of those who heard him here in the northwest couldn't believe ESPN would hire someone that clueless
 

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This is so not true. Smith is obnoxious, but he knows something about sports. Cowherd is obnoxious, and knows nothing about anything. When he got the national gig, many of those who heard him here in the northwest couldn't believe ESPN would hire someone that clueless
Well I tend to be exposed to a lot more of Smith than Cowherd. Smith has grated on my nerves to the point that I automatically change the channel whenever he's on.
 

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Cowherd has the morning drive time slot in LA. He's terrible but every other segment is an interview with somebody interesting. Anytime he's guest less I turn the dial immediately.
 
 

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I can't stand to listen to either Smith or Cowherd, but I do tend to agree with E5 Yaz that Smith has a basic understanding of the sport he is talking about.  Cowherd is just a full-on moron.
 

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He broke his arm today patting himself on the back for having the show that "has all the breaking news": Cano, Grandy, Peterson to Washington, US World Cup draw (Group of Death!)... and Saban-to-Texas rumors. Really?

He is the single most contrived persona on sports radio today. He literally has no substantially supportable positions on ANYTHING.
 

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He broke his arm today patting himself on the back for having the show that "has all the breaking news": Cano, Grandy, Peterson to Washington, US World Cup draw (Group of Death!)... and Saban-to-Texas rumors. Really?

 
 
He was simply on the air. He wasn't breaking it.
 
Mike and Mike talked about Peterson this morning.
 

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Yes... That's what made him so obnoxious.
 
Oh, I understood. I was just repeating---he said that "6 stories broke during this show". Ridiculous.
 

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John Marzano Olympic Hero said:
I'd rather be deaf for the rest of my life than listen to one minute of Colin Cowherd.
 
When I lived in Houston, I'd sometimes have ESPN Radio on when I was driving home to walk the dog at lunch.  I'd constantly think my radio was crapping out due to the five-second pauses he'd randomly take in the middle of his ramblings.  Drove me freaking nuts.
 

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Cowherd complains about not getting invited to Michelle Beadle's birthday party
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=qOCrFjV_Ix8
 

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I rode the elevator with Michelle on the way up to her interview with YES, so when he says he rescued her from Cheboygan he's being funny. He rescued her from the number 1 market in the country.
 

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Ok so I was listening to the Herd today and he had a bit about how every decade there's the smartest person in the room, and that after Belichick, since '01, honorable mention should go to Tom Coughlin based on his success at NYG and Jax.
Before being the only one to beat BBTB in the SB, and twice, he of course beat ND with BC and BC has struggled since he left. Giants have struggled since he left. And he had a great 1st stint in Jax, and now that he's back, they're back.

Poke holes in this narrative, please.
 

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Ok so I was listening to the Herd today and he had a bit about how every decade there's the smartest person in the room, and that after Belichick, since '01, honorable mention should go to Tom Coughlin based on his success at NYG and Jax.
Before being the only one to beat BBTB in the SB, and twice, he of course beat ND with BC and BC has struggled since he left. Giants have struggled since he left. And he had a great 1st stint in Jax, and now that he's back, they're back.

Poke holes in this narrative, please.
The Giants, as much as they sucked this year, improved 5 games the year Coughlin left. He was BC coach for only 3 years, and did turn them around, but compare his results to Tom O'Brien's two coaches later and it's hard to say Coughlin was better.

He was fired in 2003 after 3 straight bad seasons with the Jaguars and outside of those admittedly 2 big Super Bowl wins, he had 3 one-and-done's and 7 non-playoff seasons with the Giants.

I loved 90's BC football (I would have had Glenn Foley's ginger love child were I so properly equipped) and thus always had a soft spot for Coughlin. But he's always been amazingly overrated based on those two championships.
 

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The Giants, as much as they sucked this year, improved 5 games the year Coughlin left. He was BC coach for only 3 years, and did turn them around, but compare his results to Tom O'Brien's two coaches later and it's hard to say Coughlin was better.

He was fired in 2003 after 3 straight bad seasons with the Jaguars and outside of those admittedly 2 big Super Bowl wins, he had 3 one-and-done's and 7 non-playoff seasons with the Giants.

I loved 90's BC football (I would have had Glenn Foley's ginger love child were I so properly equipped) and thus always had a soft spot for Coughlin. But he's always been amazingly overrated based on those two championships.
I mean, maybe Belichick’s not actually good if everyone he beats sucks.

Coughlin sucks
Tomlin sucks
John Fox sucks
Andy Reid sucks
Cowher sucks

Man, no wonder the Pats win so much. Everyone else sucks.

Imagine losing the biggest game of your life to a guy that sucks and a quarterback that sucks.
 

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I mean, maybe Belichick’s not actually good if everyone he beats sucks.

Coughlin sucks
Tomlin sucks
John Fox sucks
Andy Reid sucks
Cowher sucks

Man, no wonder the Pats win so much. Everyone else sucks.

Imagine losing the biggest game of your life to a guy that sucks and a quarterback that sucks.
I don't think I said Coughlin sucks. I said he's very overrated. Do you think the body of work justifies being directly behind Belichick over the past 17 years?

His .531 winning percentage (same with both Jaguars and Giants) puts him behind such luminaries as Denny Green, Jim Mora, and Chuck Fairbanks. Way way behind contemporary guys like Cowher, Mike McCarthy, Tomlin, Harbaugh, and Carroll. 15 of the head coaches at the end of this season had higher career winning percentages than Coughlin.

He beat the Patriots. Twice. It happens (see Ryan & Sanchez). And his entire reputation is built on that accomplishment. The Giants did not win a single playoff game outside of those two years in his 12 year tenure as coach.
 
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I don't think I said Coughlin sucks. I said he's very overrated. Do you think the body of work justifies being directly behind Belichick over the past 17 years?

If he is overrated, there must be a bunch of guys better than him. Who are they? Coughlin got a 3 or 4year old franchise Jags team to the AFC championship game by beating a heavily favored Denver team at Mile High and then lost to a Parcells team.

Then he goes to the Giants and wins two SBs, the first by beating what is arguably the greatest team in history.

Back to Jax and Blake fucking Bortles is in the AFC championship game.

So I think he is pretty damn good.
 
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If he is overrated, there must be a bunch of guys better than him. Who are they? Coughlin got a 3 or 4year old franchise Jags team to the AFC championship game by beating a heavily favored Denver team at Mile High and then lost to a Parcells team.

Then he goes to the Giants and wins two SBs, the first by beating what is arguably the greatest team in history.

Back to Jax and Blake fucking Bortles is in the AFC championship game.

So I think he is pretty damn good.
You see how you mentioned the two Super Bowls with NYG and didn't bring up any other aspect of the 12 years? That's because there was literally nothing else there. Not a single playoff win.

Look up Coughlin vs Mike Shanahan. Both remarkably similar careers.

20 years coached.
2 trips to the Super Bowl
2 Championships
170 Career wins (Coughlin with 150 losses, Shanahan with 138 losses)
Likewise, both are completely forgettable outside of 2 championship seasons. But because Coughlin beat the vaunted/hated Patriots in the NY media market, he becomes a legend.

Let's put it another way....Mike Zimmer is 14 games over .500 in his 4 seasons with the Vikings. Coughlin was 12 games over .500 in his 12 seasons with the Giants.

If you ask me which contemporary coaches were clearly better, I'd put Cowher, Tomlin, and Payton ahead of him without thinking twice. As much shit as Tomlin is getting right now, that would be Coughlin's 5th best year by playoff success and 2nd best year by regular season record.
 

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If he is overrated, there must be a bunch of guys better than him. Who are they? Coughlin got a 3 or 4year old franchise Jags team to the AFC championship game by beating a heavily favored Denver team at Mile High and then lost to a Parcells team.

Then he goes to the Giants and wins two SBs, the first by beating what is arguably the greatest team in history.

Back to Jax and Blake fucking Bortles is in the AFC championship game.

So I think he is pretty damn good.
You know he's not the coach, right? How much credit does Coughlin deserve for the Jags success, as opposed to Marrone and the players? He's only been back in Jacksonville for a season, how much of an impact has he had on the roster and the culture in that time frame? Some to be sure but enough to be pointing to him as the reason that Jacksonville has had success this year?

My issue with Cowherd's narrative is that it is just looking for reasons why the Jags might win on Sunday. Now, the Jags might win on Sunday, it wouldn't surprise me and it wouldn't be the biggest upset ever, but if they do, do you point to Coughlin being the reason? I think that's just an easy pre-game narrative for the media to latch onto because of Coughlin's two SB wins against BB/TB, not a real reason to believe that Jacksonville has some kind of magical formula to beat the Pats.