Would have never, ever, ever believed 10 years ago that a Duke HC would turn down the Tennessee HC job. Unreal.
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He may be more damaged by this now that someone's sprayed "Schiano covered up child rape" on the rock on UT's campus than before. It's possible you can have Penn State ties and not be associated with them in the public mind. Vetting is unlikely to prove anything conclusive. But once there has been a controversy about your ties to the scandal, then the next place that hires him has to explain why they didn't care about this issue when Tennessee did, or risk a similar reaction from their fanbase. I'm not sure too many ADs are going to take that risk when the guy isn't a transcendently excellent football coach.
I don't give two shits about the Vol program, and I don't want to oversell the impact when Brian Kelly still has a job, but it might make a couple of guys somewhere think more carefully about sweeping really awful shit under the carpet to protect a football team in the short term.
Plus he was an assistant at Tennessee for like 20 years.
He went to Alabama I think. I wonder if he's holding out for a shot when Saban retires.
Mike Gundy turned down a 6 year, $42 million contract from Tennessee and will remain at OSU. He met with Tennessee today in Dallas.
The SEC schools actually trying to hire offensive minded coaches?!?! Moorhead, Gundy, cutcliffe?!?
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BREAKING: Herm Edwards is expected to be Arizona State’s next football coach pending approval of University President Dr. Michael Crow https://247sports.com/college/arizona-state/Article/Herm-Edwards-expected-to-take-Arizona-State-head-coaching-job-pending-approval-of-Dr-Michael-Crow-111389097
Wow, that is criminal. If I were an Arizona State fan, I'd be frantically looking for a Penn State connection and trying to start a Twitter mob.
The ASU message boards are in flames, people are encouraging season ticket holders to call and cancel, potential protests are being planned, email boxes at ASU are being blown up.
It's so strange as it seems like ASU is trying to retain all of the assistance coaches, especially Billy Napier (poached from Alabama). It's like they want to do everything they were doing, but paid $12M to buyout Graham to have a new on field CEO.
I'm going to go back to denial now.
It's so strange as it seems like ASU is trying to retain all of the assistance coaches, especially Billy Napier (poached from Alabama). It's like they want to do everything they were doing, but paid $12M to buyout Graham to have a new on field CEO.
I'm going to go back to denial now.
Pete ThamelVerified account @PeteThamel 9m9 minutes ago
Source: Dave Doeren is staying at NC State.
Source: Dave Doeren is staying at NC State.
There is just nothing as fun in college football as a Tennessee coaching search.
That said, NC State is equally delusional so that would have been fun too. Tough spot.
So whose next? Tee Martin has been the correct choice all along but it sure seems like they are avoiding African-American coaches.
That said, NC State is equally delusional so that would have been fun too. Tough spot.
So whose next? Tee Martin has been the correct choice all along but it sure seems like they are avoiding African-American coaches.
I don't get the uproar over Herm to ASU. Yes, he was terrible as a coach in the NFL, but his affable demeanor and "rah rah" coaching style seems like exactly the type of crap that would clean up on the recruiting trail. Throw in some good assistants and I don't think it's crazy to suggest that it could work out.
I’m with you. I did not like Herm as a coach. I thought he was a great motivator but bungled some decisions. If he had a Favre, a Rodgers, or a Big Ben, he could easily have had a McCarthy/Tomlinson type of career. When he had that one healthy year of Pennington, Jets made some noise(crushed Peyton 41-0 in the wild card game) and he was a missed FG in Pitt away from an AFC championship game, iirc.
I would think his act would be well suited for college.
What I don't get is that he is older than he seems - he will be 64 in the spring. Seems weird for him to take this on at that age.
I always thought that Herm would be good as a college coach for the same reasons cited above. My reservations on him are the same as they are for Gruden. They've both been out of the game for so long that I question wether they'd still have the energy and the drive required to succeed. Not to mention how much the game has evolved even in the little time they've been away.
But, it's ASU. They are a mid-tier Pac-whatever team. It's a big hire for them, making them nationally relevant at least for the first year or so.
How the hell do you rationalize it's a big hire for ASU?
Graham took over for Dennis Erickson and ASU had conversations with Chip Kelly and Kevin Sumlin before the AD decided to go 'outside the box' with the stated goal of making ASU a perennial top 15 team.
Graham took over for Dennis Erickson and ASU had conversations with Chip Kelly and Kevin Sumlin before the AD decided to go 'outside the box' with the stated goal of making ASU a perennial top 15 team.
ASU is not a national program or really a program of any note. It's impressive that they were able to talk to those coaches but conversations are not enough to change a program.
Herm Edwards sucks but he's a name and kids might like him a lot; good hire for a program without a ton of options.
Herm Edwards sucks but he's a name and kids might like him a lot; good hire for a program without a ton of options.
ASU had the option of not firing the coach with the best record since the 80s and saving the $12m it cost to fire him. Graham wasn't great but he was 44-30 and 4-2 against Arizona.
Absolutely agreed II. Bill Connoly had a piece up this week about exactly that. I loved it - https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/27/16704020/kevin-sumlin-todd-graham-texas-am-arizona-state-coaches-fired
"Sources tell @NBCDFWSports that former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach is working on a deal to become the next coach at Tennessee. A deal could be announced Friday. I’m working on more details."
It would be surprising if a Dallas station got the scoop on this but this last week has been crazy so who knows
It would be surprising if a Dallas station got the scoop on this but this last week has been crazy so who knows
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If true that's probably the a much better hire they could have made from day one.
ESPN/AP: Leach meets with Vols about coaching vacancy; no deal imminent http://es.pn/2ivC1fD
One issue with Leach is WSU doesn't have an AD right now, they've taken forever to replace Bill Moos who went to Nebraska in October.
One issue with Leach is WSU doesn't have an AD right now, they've taken forever to replace Bill Moos who went to Nebraska in October.
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Chynna Greene @ChynnaGreene 10m10 minutes ago
#BREAKING: According to sources, UTAD John Currie has been fired after only 8 months on the job
#BREAKING: According to sources, UTAD John Currie has been fired after only 8 months on the job
Brett McMurphy @Brett_McMurphy
Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD
Sources: John Currie was prepared to hire Mike Leach but university officials wouldn’t allow him to do so. Phillip Fulmer has been sabotaging search process in hopes to become Tennessee’s AD
If Fulmer ends up AD. He's gonna hire Martin. That must be his play to the pumpkin clad crazies.
Tennessee is really taking this to a new level. The Jimbo Fisher, FSU, Texas A&M dance needs to take it up a few notches to keep up.
This is the most entertaining coaching search ever.
edit - still holding out hope that this is what Steven Godfrey's double secret embed has been the past month and he'll be able to report from inside all of this. He dropped the Ole Miss story yesterday but confirmed that was not his embed.
edit - still holding out hope that this is what Steven Godfrey's double secret embed has been the past month and he'll be able to report from inside all of this. He dropped the Ole Miss story yesterday but confirmed that was not his embed.
10 years, $75 million contract was approved for Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M. Largest total contract in the country but not most money per year. Saban is at $8.1 million per year.
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40011099-4
http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40011099-4
Danny Kannell quoted them on SiriusXM . I quoted him. So my bad for not checking. Still not good but not .500 bad