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Discussion in 'College Sports' started by SoxJox, Aug 4, 2017.

  1. PaulinMyrBch

    PaulinMyrBch Don't touch his dog food Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    Yea, and whoever walks in there is inheriting a pretty good situation. Elite QB, most of offensive starters back, lots of young talent on the roster, D started 4-5 freshman. Seeing on twitter that Kevin Sumlin and Butch Jones have some ties to people there, so those are early names for speculation.
     
  2. SoxJox

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    2018 College Football HoF Inductees announced.

    Article includes other interesting notes for the class' aggregate awards, records, etc.

    Players:
    • Trevor Cobb – RB, Rice (1989-92)
    • Kerry Collins – QB, Penn State (1991-94)
    • Dave Dickenson – QB, Montana (1992-95)
    • Dana Howard – LB, Illinois (1991-94)
    • Calvin Johnson – WR, Georgia Tech (2004-06)
    • Paul Palmer – RB, Temple (1983-86)
    • Ed Reed – DB, Miami [Fla.] (1998-2001)
    • Matt Stinchcomb – OT, Georgia (1995-98)
    • Aaron Taylor – C/OG, Nebraska (1994-97)
    • Charles Woodson – DB, Michigan (1995-97)
    Coaches:
    • Frank Beamer – 280-144-4 (65.9%); Murray State (1981-86), Virginia Tech (1987-2015)
    • Mack Brown – 244-122-1 (66.6%); Appalachian State (1983), Tulane (1985-87), North Carolina (1988-97), Texas (1998-2013)
    • Mel Tjeerdsma – 242-82-4 (74.4%); Austin College [Texas] (1984-93), Northwest Missouri State (1994-2010)
     
  3. tims4wins

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    South Carolina hired Marcus Lattimore as an assistant. Pretty damn cool
     
  4. canderson

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    Arizona hires Kevin Sumlin. Smart move, I think he can do well there.
     
  5. ThePrideofShiner

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    Washington State quarterback Tyler Hilinski committed suicide tonight. He started in place of Luke Falk in the Holiday Bowl and was slated to be the starter next year.

     
  6. Ale Xander

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    Deeply disturbing and tragic. Is there a motive yet?

    Can't be because of his team's loss or an expected allegation, I don't think.

    One would think a seemingly healthy D1 QB would have a lot to look forward too.
     
  7. canderson

    canderson Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    That’s horrible to hear. Just horrible.
     
  8. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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    It's almost like depression is a disease that can affect anyone
     
  9. berniecarbo1

    berniecarbo1 Member SoSH Member

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    Not almost....it is. Very sad.
     
  10. SoxJox

    SoxJox Member SoSH Member

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    For those that may have lost track, but may still have some inkling of interest, National Signing Day, Pas Deux, is tomorrow, Wednesday, 2/7 (the first Wednesday in February - the "old" / "original" NSD.

    While something like only 20 or so of 247Sports' top 300 are still uncommitted, there are still some interesting cases out there, like the following uncommitted 5*s (and schools supposedly still in contention):

    • CB Tyson Campbell: Alabama, Georgia, Miami
    • CB Patrick Surtain Jr.: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Miami
    • OT Nick Petit-Frere: Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State
    There's also the case of uncommitted 4* QB Tanner McKee, who is in the mix for Alabama, Stanford, Texas, Texas A&M, Washington ... but he's planning to take 2 years off to fulfill his Mormon community service commitment.

    Here is SBNation's take on the projected announcement schedule:

    Updated 2/7 with final commitments

    8 a.m. ET hour
    • Four-star ATH Marquez Ezzard: Miami, Ole Miss
    • Four-star LB Javontae Jean-Baptiste: Nebraska, Ohio State, Virginia Tech
    9 a.m. ET hour
    • Four-star CB Taiyon Palmer: NC State, Nebraska, Tennessee
    10 a.m. ET hour
    • Five-star CB Tyson Campbell: Alabama, Georgia, Miami
    • Five-star CB Patrick Surtain Jr.: Alabama, Clemson, LSU, Miami (Flip from LSU)
    • Five-star OT Nick Petit-Frere: Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State
    • Four-star DE Andrew Chatfield: Florida, Florida State, Miami (ESPNU)
    • Four-star OG Tank Jenkins: Auburn, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, Texas A&M
    • Four-star ATH Tre’Shaun Harrison: Florida State, Oregon
    • Four-star LB Otis Reese: Georgia, Michigan
    • Four-star DT Nesta Silvera: Florida, Miami, Ohio State
    11 a.m. ET hour
    • Four-star QB James Foster: Alabama, Florida State, LSU, Texas A&M
    • Four-star QB Tanner McKee: Alabama, Stanford, Texas, Texas A&M, Washington
    • Four-star DE Joseph Ossai: Texas, Texas A&M
    • Four-star LB Quay Walker: Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee (Flip from Alabama)
    • Four-star OT Rasheed Walker: Ohio State, Penn State
    Noon ET hour
    • Four-star CB Noah Boykin: Florida, Notre Dame, Virginia
    • Four-star WR Tommy Bush: Baylor, Georgia, Michigan State, Ole Miss
    • Four-star LB Solomon Tuliaupupu: Notre Dame, UCLA, USC
    1 p.m. ET hour
    • Four-star CB Olaijah Griffin: Alabama, Oregon, USC, Tennessee (Flip from UCLA)
    • Four-star WR Justyn Ross: Alabama, Auburn, Clemson
    • Four-star WR JaMarr Chase: Auburn, LSU, TCU
    • Four-star DT Michael Thompson: Missouri, Oklahoma
    2 p.m. ET hour
    • Four-star WR Jacob Copeland: Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Tennessee, Texas A&M
    • Four-star OT Richard Gouraige: Auburn, Clemson, Florida
    • Four-star DE Jeremiah Martin: Oregon, Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Washington
    • Four-star DT Rick Sandidge: Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina
    • Four-star RB Maurice Washington: Arizona State, Nebraska
    • Four-star WR Devon Williams: Oregon, USC
    4 p.m. ET hour
    • Four-star WR Jaylen Waddle: Alabama, Texas A&M
    Top-100 players with uncertain times
    • Four-star OT William Barnes: Florida, North Carolina
    • Four-star WR Matthew Hill: Auburn, Clemson
    • Four-star OG Penei Sewell: Alabama, Oregon, USC, Utah
    • Four-star CB Isaac Taylor-Stuart: Alabama, Tennessee, Texas A&M, USC
    Not sure why they didn't include 4* WR Solomon Enis, an uncommitted Penn State legacy recruit. Utah

    There are also numerous rumors of potential defections based on coaching changes since the early signing day back in Dec.
     
    #210 SoxJox, Feb 6, 2018
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  11. SoxJox

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    Georgia winds up with 7 of the total 28 5*s. Florida and USC had nice days.

    Final 247Sports Rankings:

    1. Georgia
    2. Ohio State
    3. Texas
    4. Penn State
    5. Clemson
    6. SoCal
    7. Miami
    8. OU
    9. Alabama
    10. ND
    11. FSU
    12. Auburn
    13. UW
    14. LSU
    15. Florida
    16. TAMU
    17. Oregon
    18. UCLA
    19. South Carolina
    20. Michigan
    21. Nebraska
    22. Tennessee
    23. VaTech
    24. UNC
    25. TCU
    26. NC State
    27. Mississippi State
    28. Maryland
    29. Baylor
    30. Ole Miss
    31. Michigan State
    32. Louisville
    33. Okie State
    34. WVa
    35. Minnesota
    36. Kentucky
    37. Utah
    38. Stanford
    39. Iowa
    40. Vanderbilt
    41. Missouri
    42. Cal
    43. Wisconsin
    44. Washington State
    45. Pitt
    46. Cincinnati
    47. Indiana
    48. Purdue
    49. Syracuse
    50. Colorado
     
  12. canderson

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    Texas had 7 of 10 top Texas prospects and 10 of top 15.
     
  13. stp130

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    Nice summary. One correction, though...Otis Reese signed with Georgia, not Michigan.

    The Dawgs absolutely cleaned up this year. Looks like they hired the right guy down there.

     
  14. SoxJox

    SoxJox Member SoSH Member

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    Corrected. Otis is now sitting on the proper dock in the bay.
     
  15. SoxJox

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    One thing I found interesting while following throughout the day yesterday, a number - in fact quite a few - 4* recruits listed above were being reported as 5*. I know these numbers fluctuate over time, but it was amusing. It seemed that most instances of "boost stage being atained" occurred with reporting from the respective recruit's state and local media sources, or in some cases the recruiting school's updates. In any case, the 28 5* number quoted above is from 247Sports.
     
  16. Infield Infidel

    Infield Infidel teaching korea american SoSH Member

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    RIP Legion Field, long overdue
     
  18. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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  19. The Napkin

    The Napkin wise ass al kaprielian Dope SoSH Member

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  20. SoxJox

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    It's been talked about now for about a year or so, but the NCAA is set to vote in April on a new rule that would allow redshirts to play in 4 games and still retain their RS status.
     
  21. Average Reds

    Average Reds Dope Staff Member Dope V&N Mod SoSH Member

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    I believe this has been officially renamed the "Having your cake and eating it" rule.
     
  22. canderson

    canderson Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    We need to talk about Herm Edwards.



    This guy is insane. He talks about cutting players that are hurt because he has no tape on them. He says he will revoke players scholarships who spend too much time in the training room. He says he only needs 45 players total.

    Does he think he has to keep a 53-player roster?

    He has also opened every practice to media and fans, showcasing the entire playbook. He equally has only been at about half the practices in person.

    I can’t wait until his ass is fired.
     
  23. luckiestman

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    Did he have a mental break? I never liked him as HC for the Jets but he seemed like a good guy and I thought he would make a good rah rah college coach.

    The shit about telling the press he didn’t like devils was crazy too.
     
  24. Ale Xander

    Ale Xander Member SoSH Member

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    Anyone have a 12 year calendar I can borrow?

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  25. canderson

    canderson Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Jalen Hurts is very likely leaving Alabama for Texas State.
     
  26. Infield Infidel

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  27. canderson

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    Huh, interesting. A friend who is a GA coach at Dropout U told me. I assumed his Texas roots had something there, maybe he was fooled too.

    If so, my bad. :/
     
  28. SoxJox

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    However, there are reports, including a Bleacher Report interview, and not based off that questionable twitter feed story linked above, that cite Averion Hurts, Jalen's father, as suggesting the possibility of transferring, although no potential landing spot was specified. I wonder if these are false as well.
     
  29. Royal Reader

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    Alabama and Texas announce home and home. Austin in '22, Tuscaloosa in 2023.
     
  30. RedOctober3829

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    ABC/ESPN announced their Saturday primetime games for the first 3 weeks. Week 1 will also feature Michigan at Notre Dame at 7:30 Saturday night on NBC.

    Week 1 Saturday: Louisville vs. Alabama in Orlando
    Week 1 Sunday: Miami vs. LSU in Arlington, TX
    Week 1 Monday: Virginia Tech at Florida State
    Week 2: Penn State at Pitt
    Week 3: Ohio State vs. TCU in Arlington, TX
     
  31. Clears Cleaver

    Clears Cleaver Lil' Bill SoSH Member

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    Wow that’s awful
     
  32. RedOctober3829

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    Not many other good options in Week 1. Power 5 games in Week 1 are : Cincinnati/UCLA, Oregon State/Ohio State, Auburn/Washington in Atlanta, Ole Miss/Texas Tech in Houston, Tennessee/WVU in Charlotte, UNC/Cal, Texas/Maryland in DC.

    Week 2 there's Duke/Northwestern, Kentucky/Florida, Mississippi State/K-State, UGA/South Carolina, Mich St/Ariz St, USC/Stanford, Rutgers/Ohio State, Virginia/Indiana.

    Week 3: FSU/Syracuse, GT/Pitt, WVU/NC State, Boise State/Okla St, USC/Texas, Washington/Utah, Rutgers/Kansas, Duke/Baylor, Vandy/ND,
     
  33. Ale Xander

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    i would go UGA SoCa and USC Texas personally.

    5 Acc teams and 0 Pac-12 teams isn't a good formula either.
     
    #233 Ale Xander, May 16, 2018
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  34. SoxJox

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    I wouldn't say it's great, but it's certainly not awful.

    The final rankings from last year:

    Week 1 Saturday: Louisville (unranked) vs. Alabama (1) in Orlando
    Week 1 Sunday: Miami (13) vs. LSU (18) in Arlington, TX
    Week 1 Monday: Virginia Tech (24) at Florida State (unranked - although FSU is certainly expected to bounce back, and this likely will be a very important game in the final analysis)
    Week 2: Penn State (8) at Pitt (unranked) traditional in-state rivalry
    Week 3: Ohio State (5) vs. TCU (9) in Arlington, TX

    Interesting that they've schedule a Sunday and Monday game.
     
  35. Dan Murfman

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    They do this every year in week one.
     
  36. SoxJox

    SoxJox Member SoSH Member

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    I hadn't taken note of it before.
     
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  38. canderson

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    This seems like a big deal.

    @InsidetheNCAA
    DI Council adopts proposal that allows student-athletes to transfer and receive a scholarship without asking their school for permission. The rule change goes into effect in October.
     
  39. SoxJox

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    Important caveats:

    That will be an interesting one to watch.

    In other words, no contact until the S-A is a "free agent." This likely will become a new and growing area of potential violations and investigations. You just know that a back-door network will take seed and flourish if some school needs, say, a QB, and there is highly-touted QB serving as backup at some other school and who would love to be starting now.
     
  40. SoxJox

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    It's interesting also that the rule takes effect Oct 1 - five weeks into the 2018-19 season.
     
  41. Infield Infidel

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  43. SoxJox

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    Or, the more likely scenario, and one that happens quite often in the current system, you can play them in the wake of injuries to players who are more senior or higher up on the depth chart without blowing away their RS.
     
  44. Infield Infidel

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    You can also play them at the end of a disappointing season to get a head start on next year.

    Also, if a player plays <4 games and gets injured, it's an automatic redshirt if they haven't used one yet.
     
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    My buddy’s brother was a freshman at a top program. The team wanted him to play but due to poor high school coaching, he couldn’t due to the risk of making a mental mistake. He redshirted last year. If the rule would’ve been in place last season, he definitely would’ve played at the end of the season. Instead it was a semi-frustrating season.

    I think this is a great rule.
     
  46. PaulinMyrBch

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    This was the Will Greir/WVU situation last year. He got hurt in week 8 and they had to roll with a very subpar replacement for the rest of the year because Dana didn't want to burn a RS on two different guys that would likely have been much better QB's. So the last part of the season was brutal.

    On another note, the Urban Meyer moral compass keeps spinning.
     
  47. thehitcat

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    If you read the McMurphy story this seems open and shut to me. Meyer and his staff need to be fired and Meyer's wife, who we know knew what was happening needs to have her nursing credentials/license revoked.
     
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