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Worse players make the manager look worse.

But not being quite on the same page with Hill was an issue. The Dodgers’ rigid approach to platoons and bullpen matchups also is a factor.
 

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Worse players make the manager look worse.

But not being quite on the same page with Hill was an issue. The Dodgers’ rigid approach to platoons and bullpen matchups also is a factor.
Agreed. I think analytics do a great job of helping to build a good team, but the way the Sox allowed Cora to put the right players in the right spots at the right times, numbers be damned, during the course of this postseason, is a big part of why the Sox won.

One of my biggest complaints about my military career has been seeing my younger Airmen get treated like numbers, and I liken the way the Dodgers ran their bullpen (and their lineup, honestly) to that... everyone has a particular spot regardless of the day and how they feel. Alex Cora was pretty clearly on the same page as his players so much more than anyone in the Dodgers' organization, and I think that went a long way towards getting a lot more out of each individual, which contributed to the whole.
 

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Ryan Madson could have made Dave Roberts look like a genius. Instead, Madson made Roberts look like a dolt. Should Roberts have put so much faith in a veteran bullpen acquisition? Based on Madson's miserable 2018 regular-season stats, no. Madson Gagne'd Roberts, but when it counted, Roberts failed to Tito Madson.
 

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Yeah the big three to me are the lineups against the LH starters, usage of Madson, and letting Hill leave the game just because there was miscommunication and he thought he was being taken out.

The first is the most understandable. Pederson can't hit lefties, fine. One of Bellinger or Muncy should have been in there, but then their roster was constructed specifically for that level of flexibility. Grandal forgetting how to catch a baseball really weakened their lineup too, although Grandal was a strikeout machine when he was in there anyway. Leaving that much firepower on the bench in a World Series game felt like overkill.

The Madson thing was nuts--it was as if Roberts couldn't see an earlier inning being really high leverage. Game 1 you do it, eh, ok. He fails, complains about the cold weather, and then next game its ten degrees colder, and you still bring him in in another big spot? Why? Ryan Madson's a vet with a great career but hasn't been dominant in a while, least of all 2018.

The thing where Hill comes out because he has his back to Roberts and doesn't realize its a pep talk and just walks off and it becomes "oh well, guess he's out!" would really sting if I were a Dodger fan. Were did that story come from, did Roberts cop to it? Missed that. Considering Game Three who knows what the status of their arms was (I know Baez was ruled out) so Madson is, again, odd but understandable.
 

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In one of the postgame/celebration Interviews (I think on Fox sports) DD mentioned his believes that a manager needs to have full freedom in his lineup / ingame decisions. He said that there are daily conversations and his team would provide all data that is needed, but the final decisions on a daily basis are on the manager.
I immediatley asked myself if that was just an answer to what he was asked or if he was purposely saying that to critique the Dodgers approach with Roberts.
No matter which way is the better one, it's nice to end on the winning side.

Edit: Found the interview. Rewatching it, I think he is certainly referencing the Dodgers approach.
 
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