David Price 2017

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For now.

Might see him return in time for 2-3 starts in September, if he continues to treat this conservatively.

2019 Spring Training, if not.

Alex Speier‏ @alexspeier 2h2 hours ago
Price said he's confident in state of arm - described this pain as a '1,' compared to a '10' in spring training


Ian Browne‏Verified account @IanMBrowne 2h2 hours ago
Price doesn't think he will be back as soon as the 10 day DL stint is up but doesn't think he will miss that much.
 

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Price was supposed to throw Fridday but couldn't, due to soreness.

"David Price’s recovery has hit a snag.
The Boston Red Sox left-hander currently is on the 10-day disabled list due to left elbow inflammation, but all signs were pointing toward some positive movement for him Friday. However, that didn’t happen. Price, who threw Wednesday, was supposed to do the same before the Red Sox’s 3-2 win in 11 innings over the Chicago White Sox at Fenway Park, but general soreness derailed those plans.
“Price didn’t throw today,” manager John Farrell said, via The Boston Globe’s Julian Benbow. “There’s still some general soreness that feels like he still needs some time and treatment to address.” As a result, Farrell told reporters, as relayed by MassLive.com’s Christopher Smith, that Price was “backing off it (throwing) right now.” “It’s more of a day-to-day type situation to where he feels and when he’s feeling as he did for a couple days, so we’re backing off it right now,” Farrell said, per the Globe."
 

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Who knows what's really going on inside his arm. But whether he shuts it down tomorrow or if he can give the team another bunch of starts in 2017 like his first bunch, he is done for 2018 if he has surgery next week or on Nov. 2. So might as well see if he can given them anything now.
 

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It's amazing that the Sox are still keeping him suspended and nursing a fake injury to keep him from getting boo'ed at Fenway. They are really dedicated to this cover-up...
 

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Who knows what's really going on inside his arm. But whether he shuts it down tomorrow or if he can give the team another bunch of starts in 2017 like his first bunch, he is done for 2018 if he has surgery next week or on Nov. 2. So might as well see if he can given them anything now.
This was exactly my thought as well. Tough it out if you can for two more months and then we'll see you in 2019. He's having a much better pre Tommy John season than John Lackey did.
 

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Just saw on tonight's pre-game show reference to the Ken Rosenthal story on Price, and indicating that his "elbow" problem (apparently, it is actually the lower tricep) is similar to one that Nolan Ryan suffered, that essentially "healed itself" by calcifying to "stabilize the ligament." http://www.weei.com/blogs/lucy-burdge/ken-rosenthal-writes-david-price-injury-his-first-athletic-story

Can any of our medical experts expound on this, in terms of the prognosis for "self-healing" of a tricep injury through calcification?
 

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Very impressive line today, but how did he look? Didn't get to see the game.
Very good.

2 IP in 21 pitches, two Ks, and a bunch of swinging strikes. The balls in play were mostly pretty weak.

Edited to add: six swinging strikes on 21 pitches. That's really good.
 
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Why in God's name would he be booed? For working his ass off to get back to the team instead of packing it in for the year?
For being a bitch basically....perhaps you havent been following the stories about him this year?
 

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Very good.

2 IP in 21 pitches, two Ks, and a bunch of swinging strikes. The balls in play were mostly pretty weak.

Edited to add: six swinging strikes on 21 pitches. That's really good.
I'm sure today will be an important one to see how he recovered. I imagine everyone is excited at the prospect of the potential rebound.

For the record; wish him the best, we need him and he needs the support of the fans. Lighten up and focus on the immediate future.
 

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Please explain this.
Can we please not?

Haven't we had enough threads completely devolve into nonsense? Especially threads regarding David Price.

I'm guessing the vast majority of SOSHers would prefer to discuss David Price's pitching going forward. I personally don't care for any more discussion of his relationship w Eck, his handling of the media or the thickness or color of his skin.
 

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For being a bitch basically....perhaps you havent been following the stories about him this year?
Can we please not?

Haven't we had enough threads completely devolve into nonsense? Especially threads regarding David Price.

I'm guessing the vast majority of SOSHers would prefer to discuss David Price's pitching going forward. I personally don't care for any more discussion of his relationship w Eck, his handling of the media or the thickness or color of his skin.
One of these lurkers is doing a better job than the other.
 

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Very good.

2 IP in 21 pitches, two Ks, and a bunch of swinging strikes. The balls in play were mostly pretty weak.

Edited to add: six swinging strikes on 21 pitches. That's really good.
I'm sure today will be an important one to see how he recovered. I imagine everyone is excited at the prospect of the potential rebound.

For the record; wish him the best, we need him and he needs the support of the fans. Lighten up and focus on the immediate future.
How was the velocity looking?
 

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Just watched the outing in the bullpen thread. Agree with assessment from one of the other posters that he had good movement on all pitches, and good velocity. Did seem to have less command in the second inning, which a better hitting team might have been able to exploit.

Nice first outing back, and absolutely welcome.

And I agree with Wayupman and Bergs -- enough with the Price bashing. Let's get back to talking about whether and how he can contribute to the team these last 2 weeks, and hopefully in the postseason.
 

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With about 2 weeks left, if no one grabs the #3/#4 SP spot for the playoffs, any chance the Sox try to stretch Price out to be able to throw 4 or 5 innings to start a game?
 

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With about 2 weeks left, if no one grabs the #3/#4 SP spot for the playoffs, any chance the Sox try to stretch Price out to be able to throw 4 or 5 innings to start a game?
I think it's more likely they are envisioning him in an Andrew Miller multiple inning weapon role. I think Rodriguez will be the 4th starter with a piggyback reliever ready behind him, probably Fister.
 

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No mention of this?

David Price has a lot of fans inside the Red Sox clubhouse, from Cafardo in the Globe
But the missing piece here is that Price’s teammates are in his corner. They support Price. They want Price on the team. They enjoy him as a teammate. Young pitchers flock to him. It doesn’t matter what you, me, or the janitor think of him and what he did to Eckersley, which was bush league and wrong. In his mind, he felt he was protecting his teammates and they, at least the players I’ve talked to, appreciated him doing it.
 

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/09/19/the-redemption-of-david-price-may-come-in-an-unexpected-role-red-sox-bullpen-ace/?utm_term=.24a26fe7eb3f
David Price is seeking redemption in an unexpected role: Red Sox bullpen ace

BALTIMORE — Some seven months later, David Price can still remember how good he felt when he showed up at Boston’s spring training camp in Fort Myers, Fla., his prized left arm in pristine condition, his second season on a seven-year, $217 million deal with the Red Sox containing all the makings of something special.

But the good vibes lasted all of two weeks. The first twinge of elbow soreness in late February, in hindsight, was the portentous start of a hellish journey that saw insult added to injury, with Price making just 11 starts, clashing with the Boston media and becoming a favorite punching bag for Red Sox fans during a season full of inconsistency and intrigue.

“Going into spring training feeling as good as I did, and then for everything to happen the way it’s happened, has definitely been tough,” Price, 32, said Monday in the visitors’ clubhouse at Oriole Park at Camden Yards, where the Red Sox, now holding a three-game lead over the New York Yankees in the American League East, opened a three-game series against the Orioles with a 10-8 win.

“I’ve dealt with it. I’ve gotten through it,” he said. “Most people would’ve been at the house months ago. I didn’t pack it in. Does it feel good? No. [But] I still pitched. If people don’t appreciate that, or can’t, so be it.”

As the regular season winds down, with the Red Sox mere days away from clinching a playoff spot, Price is in a position he never would have imagined back in February — relegated to the bullpen for the rest of 2017, however far the Red Sox go. The move, which the team made last week, was an acknowledgment that Price’s latest elbow-related layoff, which began July 22, did not afford enough time to build up his stamina in time to start in October.

When management sat him down and told Price of their plans for him, he immediately made it known that he strongly disagreed.

“They knew what I wanted to do. I definitely wanted to start,” he said. The team’s logic, however, was difficult to deny. “It would have been tough to build me back up at that point. I get it.”
Much more at the link
 

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That's a facile story, but Lackey turned things around, and much of his suckage was due to pitching through a serious injury.
Well, it could end up being a lot more similar, and I think that's on the half full side of things. I don't think there's much doubt Price is going to be seeing Dr. Andrews in the next year or two. And this is only year two of his deal - lots of time to come back and have a few nice seasons.
 

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No matter the metric, Price's first two years have been demonstrably better than Lackey's were, even with a truncated season from Price this year.

And Lackey only gets given the excuse of playing through injury because his numbers were sooo bad. If Price went and had surgery, what would we look back at his two years here as? Would that make them look all the more impressive?
 

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Just saw on tonight's pre-game show reference to the Ken Rosenthal story on Price, and indicating that his "elbow" problem (apparently, it is actually the lower tricep) is similar to one that Nolan Ryan suffered, that essentially "healed itself" by calcifying to "stabilize the ligament." http://www.weei.com/blogs/lucy-burdge/ken-rosenthal-writes-david-price-injury-his-first-athletic-story

Can any of our medical experts expound on this, in terms of the prognosis for "self-healing" of a tricep injury through calcification?
They repeated this story in Saturday's game. I find it fascinating and, given that the only other hurler who's had the same experience is Ryan, feel somewhat mollified that he didn't have surgery. If you're going to make an exception, then at least choose the guy whose arm might itself be an exception.