Zach Lowe talking about Grant as a major acquisition by the Mavs all fall has been blowing my mind.Grant Williams ranked above White is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
Zach Lowe talking about Grant as a major acquisition by the Mavs all fall has been blowing my mind.Grant Williams ranked above White is the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
I listen to Lowe a lot. I disagree with this take on his take. Seems like he has been saying that it is an important acquisition, for they need a 3 and D guy, but I didn't take it as him calling it a slam dunk or anythingZach Lowe talking about Grant as a major acquisition by the Mavs all fall has been blowing my mind.
Have you seen the rest of the Mavs roster? Grant immediately became one of their most important players.Zach Lowe talking about Grant as a major acquisition by the Mavs all fall has been blowing my mind.
Some of that 150 includes Ramona Shelburne, Dave McMenamin, Ohm Youngmusik and other “reporters” who basically don’t understand basketball and just parrot what Lakers/Clippers executives tell them.The Mavs have been incredibly inept in surrounding Luka with players that enhance his talent.
Grant is a good fit as a complementary player and the deal was very reasonable. I don't blame them for celebrating.
As far as ranking him ahead of Derrick White, that's the level of ESPN basketball intelligentsia these days. JJ Redick & a handful of others are stuck on a sinking ship.
Note: ESPN's NBArank panel, composed of nearly 150 reporters, editors, producers and analysts, were asked to rank players based on their predicted contributions -- quality and quantity -- for the 2023-24 season only.
Shelburne is indeed a total Laker sycophant but she does know basketball—unlike the other two you mentioned.Some of that 150 includes Ramona Shelburne, Dave McMenamin, Ohm Youngmusik and other “reporters” who basically don’t understand basketball and just parrot what Lakers/Clippers executives tell them.
I shudder to think of what their 150 look like. I’m guessing McMenamin had Jarrod Vanderbilt comfortably inside the top 10. Shelburne probably had Kobe at 1 and Jeannie Buss at 2
And to be fair to Williams - which doesn't happen all the time on these boards - he's fantastic in that role.I listen to Lowe a lot. I disagree with this take on his take. Seems like he has been saying that it is an important acquisition, for they need a 3 and D guy, but I didn't take it as him calling it a slam dunk or anything
Literally just finished that clip and was coming to post. What a dumb system for figuring out the top 100. It would be so much smarter to put players in tiers of 10-25 players and tell them to rank that group. If someone feels like a player really shouldn't be it that tier, up or down, then they can write that in and say where they think they should rank. Or have a pool of say 15 you start with, and when you rate one player, another player is added to the pool using loose ratings. So dumbGo to minute 3. JJ goes off, needless to say, he believes White is a TOP50 NBA player.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_jgi4RhJUg
Yea, their approach sounds like they have reporters, editors, producers and analysts who don't really understand or care about the product.Literally just finished that clip and was coming to post. What a dumb system for figuring out the top 100. It would be so much smarter to put players in tiers of 10-25 players and tell them to rank that group. If someone feels like a player really shouldn't be it that tier, up or down, then they can write that in and say where they think they should rank. Or have a pool of say 15 you start with, and when you rate one player, another player is added to the pool using loose ratings. So dumb
Their job isn’t to create accurate and sound analysis. It’s to generate clicks/viewership. Mission accomplished.Yea, their approach sounds like they have reporters, editors, producers and analysts who don't really understand or care about the product.
JJ claims they were "trolling". I guess it's not completely shocking, the mainstream media is utter garbage.
Honestly, I think JJ is actually trying to stick up for them or make it look better. When someone’s “trolling” they know better but are doing things to get a rise out of people.Yea, their approach sounds like they have reporters, editors, producers and analysts who don't really understand or care about the product.
JJ claims they were "trolling". I guess it's not completely shocking, the mainstream media is utter garbage.
There was an interview he did at the start of August talking about an extension. White was quoted saying “I love being here in Boston. It would be cool to get an extension”The news making the rounds today is that the Celts are talking to White about an extension. There actually appears to be little on the news front, except if something is going to happen, it has to happen by Oct. 23, or talks will have to wait for the end of the season.
So what would we pay for a White extension? Could we get him 4/$90m? Or as much as 4/$100m? These will be his years in his early 30s, but by all indications, he looks like he'll age well.
Exactly. JJ can't come out and say the ESPN "experts" are clueless. He has to say they meant to do that. Everyone knows ESPN is there "to generate clicks/viewership" by messing with controversial/click-bait players like Derrick WhiteHonestly, I think JJ is actually trying to stick up for them or make it look better. When someone’s “trolling” they know better but are doing things to get a rise out of people.
I think the much more likely explanation is that a decent amount of the 150 are fucking idiots who don’t watch or care about basketball
DW has two years left on his contract so max extension is 3 years. 140% raise would be $27M-ish starting salary on the extension. CsBlog says max extension right now is 3/$85M, which seems like a good deal for Cs.. I haven't checked the math.So what would we pay for a White extension? Could we get him 4/$90m? Or as much as 4/$100m? These will be his years in his early 30s, but by all indications, he looks like he'll age well.
Then, Russell revealed a surprising role model for his recent play.
“My inspiration has been Derrick White,” Russell said. “I want to be Derrick White. He doesn’t get a lot of credit for what he does. He makes all the winning plays. That’s who I want to be.”
100000%...you're not riling up the average fan by not putting Derrick White in the top 100. They don't care to that level. It's basically just showing a level of incompetence to people that actually watch and care about the product.....you know, the thing that we expect from the votersExactly. JJ can't come out and say the ESPN "experts" are clueless. He has to say they meant to do that. Everyone knows ESPN is there "to generate clicks/viewership" by messing with controversial/click-bait players like Derrick White
JJ was completely exasperated/embarrassed by his colleagues.
One of the Tech companies is going to grab a lot of the broadcasting rights and ESPN will continue to fadeway.
Malika Andrews is on her way to being the next Martha Quinn.
He's talked about it a lot: it symbolizes the darkness inside what was his heart, after being snubbed by ESPN.Watching the replay of last night’s game. Does anyone know why D White touches his heart before he shoots free throws?
He's talked about it a lot: it symbolizes the darkness inside what was his heart, after being snubbed by ESPN.
This is so brilliant, I was all-in about 2/3 of the way through it, then BAMHe's talked about it a lot: it symbolizes the darkness inside what was his heart, after being snubbed by ESPN.
this is hilariousHook this right up to my veins:
View: https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/1718104683800088846?s=20
This team has it.
BrilliantHe's talked about it a lot: it symbolizes the darkness inside what was his heart, after being snubbed by ESPN.
Agree. Good thing we get a rematch against Philly on Thursday.I know the opponents were tougher in the recent losses, but it felt like the Celtics REALLY missed DWhite in those games. He changes the whole feel of the team.
Yeah, we'll see how it looks then.Agree. Good thing we get a rematch against Philly on Thursday.
Yeah, more just interesting as a litmus test of the Derrick White Factor.Yeah, we'll see how it looks then.
Although, tbh, both the Celtics and Sixers will look so different in April (in terms of play style and chemistry) that I don't pay much attention at all to these early results.
Harris and Oubre have been playing out of their minds on both ends of the floor with how the former matches up with multiple frontcourt positions continuing to be undervalued. The team defense seems to be on point with Oubre/Batum replacing Harden/Shake too.I think the Sixers look a lot better this year. Could just be early/healthy Embiid more than anything else though.
It looks like Maxey is making a big leap. Can't hurt to be rid of the Harden distraction either.I think the Sixers look a lot better this year. Could just be early/healthy Embiid more than anything else though.
As JTT says, it's Maxey. His USG% has basically stayed the same (24.1% to 24.8%); his TO% has dropped from 7.4% to 4.5% while his Asst% has gone from 16.9% to 31.2%.I think the Sixers look a lot better this year. Could just be early/healthy Embiid more than anything else though.
His ability to do what he is doing without turning the ball over is pretty remarkable. If sustainable it makes stopping him pretty damn difficult.As JTT says, it's Maxey. His USG% has basically stayed the same (24.1% to 24.8%); his TO% has dropped from 7.4% to 4.5% while his Asst% has gone from 16.9% to 31.2%.
He's really taken a leap but let's see how he adapts as defenses start to game plan for him. Also, I think he's a lot better in transition than in the half-court, which might be a problem for PHI come playoff time.
He’s the best guy on the team at the 0.5 second style, which is not just about passing but also just making an immediate decision of what to do, be it pass, shoot, or drive.7/12 for 27pts and +defense on Maxey last night
This dude needs a bump (especially since Jordan Walsh is on a similar post-level )
I tell my kid to focus on Derrick White more than any other Celtic when watching games.
White is a plus Defender in the halfcourt, gets back in transition on D, always looking to push pace on offense,
and does 3 things in the half-court offense:
1. Immediate catch and shoot 3s (43% on the season after shooting 38% last season and 47.5% in the playoffs). He worked hard on his 3pt shot a summer ago and now owns a confident stroke.
2. Quick ball movement to an open teammate (4.6 asst/1.3 TO). Taken from his Spurs days of .5 second offense.
3. Advances the ball towards the rim with dribble penetration if he has a matchup advantage. This leads to a floater/layup OR draws a double, kicks out to the 3pt line (last nights Tatum step in 3, wide-open dagger)
It's not a shock this team looked like crap when he was out and rusty from post-birth.
Yep, he dribbles and draws with purpose. He doesn't waste shot clock, or let the defense dig in with between-the-leg dribble exhibitions 32' away from the basket.He’s the best guy on the team at the 0.5 second style, which is not just about passing but also just making an immediate decision of what to do, be it pass, shoot, or drive.
The other good thing we have been seeing from him is some understanding of how to manipulate the defense. There have been a few plays where, in retrospect, it looked like he was probably planning to pass the entire time, but made a move to draw a defender to him before he made the pass.
That type of thing falls in the 0.5 seconds category, too. Get th ball, immediate pass to Tatum obviously does. But, get the ball, pull Tatum’s defender over and then pass to him does, also, as it is also an immediate decision.
Prime Horford, great analogy...if Derrick White were 6'10" he would be Al Horford. Same kind of full-court awareness, calmness with the ball, always making the right decision.
Funny. Last night they made reference to Horford as a "generational winner". "Won everywhere, Florida Nat Championships etc etc".Prime Horford, great analogy...
Is it 2nd? Because for me its either 2nd or 3rd behind Tatum and maybe KPWhere I'd rank him on Celtic importance would send the Cellar into a tizzy, so I'll keep it to myself.