Dishing Olynyk

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I think people are predisposed to hating New England teams anyway and everyone will remember the Kevin Love incident because he plays with LeBron.
 

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As IT said after the game, I think Oubre reacted this way bc he knows exactly what olynk is (not) all about. He wouldn't be stepping that way at Jae.
Everyone around the league know that Olynyk isn't about that life.
 

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Everyone around the league know that Olynyk isn't about that life.
That subtle shade from IT4 was a little surprising to me, but it's also fair, and could be seen as a compliment in a certain way: Olynyk keeps his cool.

I may be biased as a Celtics fan, but this idea that Olynyk is a dirty player is thoroughly ridiculous to me. I see a guy setting a hard screen, in this case, and a bad one, trying to slip the screen and gain an advantage.
 

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I love this:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19338242/kelly-olynyk-boston-celtics-dirty-player

It's about Draymond Green's opinion on the matter. Guy who keeps hitting people in the balls thinks Olynyk is a dirty player. Only evidence cited is that he pulled on a dude's arm a few years ago while going for a rebound.
I can't wait to sign up for some Dray-bo lessons

"I haven't kicked anybody," Green told ESPN. "You kick somebody with your foot, not your shin. I don't know who taught them how to kick if they're kicking with their shin. You kick with your foot.
 

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"I haven't kicked anybody," Green told ESPN. "You kick somebody with your foot, not your shin. I don't know who taught them how to kick if they're kicking with their shin. You kick with your foot.
He is insisting he never hit anyone in the balls with his foot. He just hit them with his shin. Clearly he knows clean playing.
 

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"I haven't kicked anybody," Green told ESPN. "You kick somebody with your foot, not your shin. I don't know who taught them how to kick if they're kicking with their shin. You kick with your foot.
Sure you do, if you want to break your foot.
 

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Olynyk played the best game of his career in a Game 7 at the Garden. No matter where he ends up you don't ever forget nights like this.
A lot of really good players will never have a game like that on that big of a stage in their entire career. Good job by him.
 

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Olynyk played the best game of his career in a Game 7 at the Garden. No matter where he ends up you don't ever forget nights like this.
Although people are kind of forgetting the 31 Eddie House put up against Orlando in one playoff series. :)
A lot of really good players will never have a game like that on that big of a stage in their entire career. Good job by him.
It will be interesting to see what KO decides to do next year (or what his choices are). If he played for a team like SAC that didn't have a chance to win, he could play 30 minutes a game (when he's not fouling out) and he'd have a lot more shot attempts by which to put up pretty good numbers. A part of him has to want to see what he could do given the opportunity to play more.

BTW, I liked that Al said that KO was "probably the hardest worker on the team." That says a lot given the players on this team.
 

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Although people are kind of forgetting the 31 Eddie House put up against Orlando in one playoff series. :)
That wasn't a Game 7 and we had a comfortable double-digit from right out of the gate. House didn't really go off until the game was well in hand iirc.

Olynyk was a tight Game 7 and he was a difference maker.....arguably THE difference in the game. We still cruise past Orlando in that game without House.
 

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The frustrating thing with Olynyk is I feel he could get more out of his skills around the basket - its a tradeoff since he sits at the 3 pt line a lot and that contributes to the overall efficiency of the offense. But he really showed off that great touch last night.
 

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BTW, I liked that Al said that KO was "probably the hardest worker on the team." That says a lot given the players on this team.
I've tried to follow the team a lot since Stevens took over and remember reading something about Kris Kardashin doing grueling workouts after games where he got a DNP. KO would train with him.

Edit: Rondo has said something similar to the Al quote

"A few more notes about Olynyk's second season follow below: He's in much better shape Last week, Rajon Rondo singled out Olynyk as one of the hardest workers on the team."
 

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That's what she said.
Depending on what he does next year, stay or leave, he made a lot of money last night.

On the Dunc'd on podcast they had him near the bottom of the tier including Mirotic, JaMycal Green, Felicio, Len.

And with the cap this year and the lack of teams with cap space not all of those players are going to get paid Ian Hahimni money as they would have last year. They mentioned the best of that group, Green, could get around 4/44.

I know we all see Kelly getting more than that, it surprised me. They said one of them could get paid big and then the rest fight for table scraps.

I don't know it is our green colored glasses, but Kelly has shown a lot more than any of those players this year. Maybe we get lucky and retain him on the cheap.
 

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It's selfish to ask much more of Kelly O at this point given what he did last night. But him pulling a Kevin Love on LeBron tomorrow night would be super helpful.
 

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Not sure if it's been cited elsewhere but the last guy to have scored more points than Olynyk for the C's in a Game 7 was 52 years ago. You may remember the guy who did it also had a pretty famous steal on the final play of that game...

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiq8IaH4fTTAhUqLcAKHSGUAAEQtwIIJzAA&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4fTjcJwImw&usg=AFQjCNH2mwCgXvNT8YojyBlAOGj52-QP8w&sig2=UsHVvPwUElmZa8XhtrQ0-g
I assume you left out the words "off the bench"? Since IT scored 29 yesterday and Pierce and Bird both scored more than that, but as starters.
 

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Yes, sorry. Hondo was the last non-starter to score more than Olynyk in a Game 7 for the Celtics. 15 April, 1965.
My instinct is to say this is one of the ways we've been spoiled by the playoff teams in that gap.

That sounds impressive and it is - except the reason for it is that many Cs playoff teams were so good there were few game sevens, and the ones they did were usually in the later rounds against the cream of the crop.
 

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My instinct is to say this is one of the ways we've been spoiled by the playoff teams in that gap.

That sounds impressive and it is - except the reason for it is that many Cs playoff teams were so good there were few game sevens, and the ones they did were usually in the later rounds against the cream of the crop.
They have actually played more game 7s than any other franchise - a product of their historic success. Lots of playoff appearances and series wins.
 

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In 2008 the first round (vs Atlanta) and the second round (vs Cleveland) both went seven. The two later rounds (Detroit and LA) only went six.
 

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Seriously tho, re. this point:
The frustrating thing with Olynyk is I feel he could get more out of his skills around the basket - its a tradeoff since he sits at the 3 pt line a lot and that contributes to the overall efficiency of the offense. But he really showed off that great touch last night.
The thing about last night that I hadn't seen from KO before was that he received the ball up top or outside most of the time where he normally gets it – yet often drove inside 1-on-1. And if he drew a second guy over he passed it. If he could do that with any regularity ...
 

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The thing about last night that I hadn't seen from KO before was that he received the ball up top or outside most of the time where he normally gets it – yet often drove inside 1-on-1. And if he drew a second guy over he passed it. If he could do that with any regularity ...

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IMO, that's because as soon as he saw either Mahinmi or Bogdanovic following him out to the 3pt line he said to himself, "Self, if either of these guys is within 3 feet of me, I can go around them." There may be more than just those two guys that he can do that against, but he doesn't seem to think so.
 

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For me, the big difference was that he went around guys instead of thru them when driving. He seems to be good for one charging call per game. I think he avoided them all last night.

He seems to have very good touch around the hoop, even when turned around under the basket. But last night he had one sort of up and under move from the left block that would have made Kevin McHale proud.
 

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The other thing that I wish Kelly would do more often is after the pump fake at the 3-point line, pull up for a 15 footer. He is a good enough shooter that he should be a threat mid-range game and taking and hitting that shot regularly would open up the lane for him I would think.
 

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Yes, sorry. Hondo was the last non-starter to score more than Olynyk in a Game 7 for the Celtics. 15 April, 1965.
That shows in one way how ridiculous the Russell teams were, that Havlicek didn't start until his fourth season. McHale took even longer to start all the time, until his sixth season. They're each top five all time Celtics, a team with an embarrassment of all time players.
 

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I might have thought that McHale might have bested that number when he was a 6th man, but my guess is that he had limited Game 7's in that time
Games 7's with McHale as 6th man

1981 ECF vs PHI, 1 pt
1982 ECF vs PHI, 20 pts
1984 ECSF vs NYK, 8 pts
1984 Finals vs LAL, 10 pts

then, as starter
1987 ECSF vs. MIL, 26 pts
1987 ECF vs. DET, 22 pts
1988 ECSF vs. ATL, 33 pts

and finally, back to the 6th man
1992 ECSF vs CLE, 15 pts
 

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As a frequent rider of the KO hype roller coaster, and obviously over the moon about game 7, his Celtics career numbers tell an odd story.

Year one he averaged 20.0/8.7/5.2 and in year 4 he averaged 20.5/9.0/4.8 with the middle two years pretty much the same as well.

For a guy who works as hard as reported, and with the benefit of what we all agree is great coaching, he hasn't improved at all in the four years he has been a Celtic. Give or take the hot night shooting (which is always welcome in game 7s!) thinking Kelly will develop something more seems a fools errand.
 

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I'm a charter subscriber to SSSF's KO Newsletter-unless he can do what he did Monday night with more consistency, I don't see him as a guy I'd give a big contract to. Love to have him back at the right price, but someone is going to overpay for him I think.

One thing about Monday night-his net on/off was -3. During his run in the 4th, the celtics were giving it away on D as fast as they scored, and his first half stint was very unproductive. I know that's not all on him, but it the celts were way better when he was off the court. Smart was plus 18 in about the same amount of minutes, and Jaylen plus 10 in far fewer minutes.
 

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Can't really justify paying him more than about $9M per year and sadly that probably doesn't get it done. Will probably try to upgrade the PF/C position via trade or bring in a cheap replacement. I would be surprised if Danny rolls into next season with a big rotation of aging Al Horford, gimpy Amir, poor man's Olynyk aka Jerebko, and unproven rookies Zizic and Yabooty.
 

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Can't really justify paying him more than about $9M per year and sadly that probably doesn't get it done. Will probably try to upgrade the PF/C position via trade or bring in a cheap replacement. I would be surprised if Danny rolls into next season with a big rotation of aging Al Horford, gimpy Amir, poor man's Olynyk aka Jerebko, and unproven rookies Zizic and Yabooty.
9 is way too low. He's getting at least 4/60.