ERod out at least 6 months due to knee surgery

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Perhaps that explains Fister's start in the playoffs.
 

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If he's not "returning to pitching" until mid-April, then we may not see him until the end of June. That is real trouble for a team that really can't afford to make two top-level FA purchases this off-season.
 

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I doubt we see him before the All Star Break with that timetable.

This is extraordinarily bad news for this roster and offseason inability to acquire top-level talent.
 

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Other than missing time this has to be great news right? Let's get him healthy and see if he can reach his potential.
 

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IANAD, but with this announcement read a medical study of patellofemoral ligament reconstruction and, while the procedure itself is not uncommon, the overall rate of post-op complications is not insignificant (26%), with restricted knee motion, the potential for patellar fracture, and residual patellar instability occuring in 13%, 5.6%, up to 30%, respectively.

The study concluded: "Complications associated with this procedure ranged from minor to major. Most of them are the result of a technical error and can be avoided by proper surgical technique."

I'm sure all have faith in Dr. Andrews' abilities.
 

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Other than missing time this has to be great news right? Let's get him healthy and see if he can reach his potential.
I think so. It hurts the offseason as already stated and early depth in a season where we want to lay off the top starters some. not sure it's a net positive.
 

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Do we know if Steven Wright will be ready for spring training?
 

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Now we have to acquire a starter or two in the offseason. Perhaps we were going to anyway, but with Edrod definitely out and Price no guarantee, not to mention Wright's situation, we need depth beyond Sale, Pom, and Porcello. I think Fister's odds at returning just improved.

The lack of young starters ready to step in complicates this further.
 

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This, absolutely. It'd be nice to have any confidence that Owens could slot in as the #5 in for 2 - 3 months instead of paying a retread $3 million
Unfortunately, the going rate for even retreads is a lot more than $3 million these days. The going rate for any decent starter (Fister or better) starts in the $5-10 million range.
 

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Other than missing time this has to be great news right? Let's get him healthy and see if he can reach his potential.
I posted the same thought in the Hanley surgery thread (because I didn't see this one). Sox need to know what he can do when fully healthy. Him missing the start of the season will be short-term pain that can hopefully bring long-term gain.
 

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Johnson's out of options next year, so they could use him at first and see whether he is going to be worth keeping or not. We'll have Velazquez available as well, and Wright presumably coming back. Owens is not worth even talking about, he's got the command of Daniel Bard right now. Maybe he eventually makes it as a lefty reliever someday but he is miles from even that now.

But this could somehow work out to be a blessing in disguise if Eduardo gets healthy and better and more consistent, and we find another young pitcher who is a decent #5. We could use more controllable cheap pitching going forward, so hopefully one or two guys take this opportunity and run with it.
 

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Johnson's out of options next year, so they could use him at first and see whether he is going to be worth keeping or not. We'll have Velazquez available as well, and Wright presumably coming back. Owens is not worth even talking about, he's got the command of Daniel Bard right now. Maybe he eventually makes it as a lefty reliever someday but he is miles from even that now.
First they use Wright as a pinchrunner, now Johnson at 1B? Is he even tall enough?
 

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If he's not "returning to pitching" until mid-April, then we may not see him until the end of June. That is real trouble for a team that really can't afford to make two top-level FA purchases this off-season.
Is this really true? Right now the starting pitchers would be Sale, Price, Pomeranz and Porcello. That's not a bad rotation to begin with so really all you would be looking for is a #5 pitcher. Those tend to be fungible so you could have Wright, Velazquez and Johnson and maybe Fister compete for the #5 slot.
 

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Now we have to acquire a starter or two in the offseason. Perhaps we were going to anyway, but with Edrod definitely out and Price no guarantee, not to mention Wright's situation, we need depth beyond Sale, Pom, and Porcello. I think Fister's odds at returning just improved.

The lack of young starters ready to step in complicates this further.
We might be coming for that second tier LT hit. Somebody should probably put the Soxprospects site on meltdown alert.
 

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Red Sox have clarified Rodriguez's status, saying that "return to pitching" means "return to the majors" so he's expected to be ready to go for April rather than June.

 

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Man if he can pitch like he can, without tweaking his knee every third start, that would be such a boon to this rotation.
 

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I'd take a flyer on CC Sabathia for pitching depth next season on a 1-year deal. It will come down to cost, but he's someone I'd have my radar on.
I'd be surprised if the Yankees don't have the same thoughts, especially considering his performance this post-season.
Over the past 2 seasons, CC Sabathia has made 57 starts with a 3.80 ERA. FIP isn't as positive about his performance, but K and BB rates are stable and plenty acceptable. He's getting more than a 1-year flier contract. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets 3/$57 or at least 2/$36 with a reachable vesting option.

He's probably a better pitcher than Porcello is.
 

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Over the past 2 seasons, CC Sabathia has made 57 starts with a 3.80 ERA. FIP isn't as positive about his performance, but K and BB rates are stable and plenty acceptable. He's getting more than a 1-year flier contract. I wouldn't be shocked if he gets 3/$57 or at least 2/$36 with a reachable vesting option.

He's probably a better pitcher than Porcello is.
He's 37 years old and will be 38 during the season. No one is giving him a 3-year deal and probably not a 2-year deal. He'll get a 1-year deal for good money. Something like 1/$15 to $17.
 

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Do we know if Steven Wright will be ready for spring training?
This is a question I had and my search did not bring up much aside from this:

Red Sox's Steven Wright: Out for remainder of season
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Wright (knee) will undergo surgery on his injured knee and will miss the rest of the 2017 season, Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald reports.

Pete Abraham of The Boston Globe reports that the operation is a cartilage restoration operation that will be performed next week. Most of the details regarding Wright's injury had been pretty murky up to this point, so it comes as a disappointment that the injury is so serious to those who were stashing him while his timetable was more manageable. This surgery is also one that can take up to a year for a full recovery, which means the knuckleballer could also miss the beginning of next season. With Wright missing the remainder of the season, Kyle Kendrick will fill his spot in the Red Sox's rotation until David Price (elbow) is back in action.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/playerpage/2027446/steven-wright

So, not good news for the start of next season for the Sox.
 

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This, absolutely. It'd be nice to have any confidence that Owens could slot in as the #5 in for 2 - 3 months instead of paying a retread $3 million
He pitched better in his last outing in the fall league, going 4ip, 4h, 1er, 2k/2bb. Of course, his performance prior was a 1.0, 2h, 4er, 5bb/2k disaster.
 

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This is a question I had and my search did not bring up much aside from this:

Red Sox's Steven Wright: Out for remainder of season
by RotoWire Staff | RotoWire
Wright (knee) will undergo surgery on his injured knee and will miss the rest of the 2017 season, Jason Mastrodonato of the Boston Herald reports.

Pete Abraham of The Boston Globe reports that the operation is a cartilage restoration operation that will be performed next week. Most of the details regarding Wright's injury had been pretty murky up to this point, so it comes as a disappointment that the injury is so serious to those who were stashing him while his timetable was more manageable. This surgery is also one that can take up to a year for a full recovery, which means the knuckleballer could also miss the beginning of next season. With Wright missing the remainder of the season, Kyle Kendrick will fill his spot in the Red Sox's rotation until David Price (elbow) is back in action.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/players/playerpage/2027446/steven-wright

So, not good news for the start of next season for the Sox.

Here's a much more positive update from today.
"Now, Wright's optimism has finally returned.
He will head to Fort Myers in early January with the goal of hitting the ground running when spring training rolls around. And now, with Eduardo Rodriguez sidelined for the beginning of the 2018 season with his own knee injury, Wright knows there is a very real chance to slide back into the spot he left behind."
 

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Here's a much more positive update from today.
"Now, Wright's optimism has finally returned.
He will head to Fort Myers in early January with the goal of hitting the ground running when spring training rolls around. And now, with Eduardo Rodriguez sidelined for the beginning of the 2018 season with his own knee injury, Wright knows there is a very real chance to slide back into the spot he left behind."
Subtle.