ESPN Is Pathetic
- Thread starter Lose Remerswaal
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Hopefully this will open the door for that one ethical lawyer to get air time on ESPN.
Ethan StraussVerified account @SherwoodStrauss 2h2 hours ago
So, I am no longer with ESPN, as of today. I want to thank all the great people I've worked with and, of course, the readers + listeners
So, I am no longer with ESPN, as of today. I want to thank all the great people I've worked with and, of course, the readers + listeners
Oh, I have no doubt that SAS would make good money at another network if he ever left ESPN. I guess the question is whether that would be money well spent, and I would think the Bayless example suggests it wouldn't be: the ratings when he was on First Take were by all accounts great, but he's gotten nothing on FS1, suggesting that the draw was not the personality but instead the mere fact that he was on ESPN as opposed to some other network.
You're missing viewing habits though. People instinctively turn ESPN on because it has had quality programming over an extended period, yes, even today. FS1 has yet to shown the ability to make any original content worth a damn that aren't a blatant attempt to copy ESPN. FS1 has live sports rights and that's about its only value prop to get people to instinctively switch from ESPN. NBC Sports was able to do this somewhat successfully by focusing on niche areas like hockey and soccer whereas FS1 has tried to be ESPN out of the box.
Garbage time is better original content than anything current (not biographical like 30/30) ESPN has.
Is her content really anything great? I've tried a few times and outside of her bashing sexist remarks (like Peter king, et al), I thought it wasn't anything clever. and her interviews are rough. Her show got killed by Barstool relatively speaking in ratings.
I can see her being a good foil for SAS, lolol
Some names I haven't seen mentioned here
--Ashley Fox
--Analytics expert Rufus Peabody
--College reporter Chantel Jennings
--Pelicans writer Justin Verrier
--ESPN Radio host Robin Lundberg
--ESPNW columnist Melissa Issacson
--Columnist Johnette Howard
--CBB writer C.L. Brown
--SEC recruiting analyst Derek Tyson
--Ashley Fox
--Analytics expert Rufus Peabody
--College reporter Chantel Jennings
--Pelicans writer Justin Verrier
--ESPN Radio host Robin Lundberg
--ESPNW columnist Melissa Issacson
--Columnist Johnette Howard
--CBB writer C.L. Brown
--SEC recruiting analyst Derek Tyson
Given the success of Fox News and the weird but apparently real complaints of conservatives about ESPN, I'm actually kind of surprised FS1 hasn't tried harder to become the Fox News of sports. They already have a bunch of "politically incorrect" personalities like Cowherd, Bayless and Whitlock - if you told them to emphasize their more conservative leanings, bought some rights to NASCAR and started criticizing ESPN for being the "liberal sports media" I would think the Trump voters of the world would flock to the channel. Maybe they are already trending in this direction, or maybe it's just not viable in the sports sector. Still surprised no one has really gone for this angle, though (as annoying and depressing as it would be to everyone else).
I'm shocked she hasn't gone to Barstool actually. Her humor and social media presence would fit in perfectly there, and finding a true female lead has been Portnoy's white whale ever since Jenna Marbles left forever ago. It almost seems like too obvious of a match.
For the love of God, please no. Can't we have anything that isn't polluted by politics?
Boy, this is so true. Just about the only time I look for FS1 is when they have a Champions league game on. I get irritated fiddling with the remote like "where the hell is that channel again.."
I love that articleI saw this and said, "How do I know that name...?"
Goes along well with this.I saw this and said, "How do I know that name...?"
Is Cossack actually disbarred? I couldn't find any references that cited as much.
Basically the same thing you heard when NBC Sports (nee Versus) first started growing. Then they became a lot more focused. Not sure if that's a recipe for success or actually making but you can find the channel now and it's on most hotel cable packages. So it's something.
Dottie Pepper
@Dottie_Pepper
My time with ESPN comes to a close today as I join the sidelines with so many other talented… https://www.instagram.com/p/BTXF6wnFFSB/
Reese Waters
@reesewaters
ESPN gave me the light and it's time to leave stage. Sincere gratitude to those who were so kind and supportive. Sorry for the mess I made.
Jaymee Sire
@jaymee
I was only at ESPN for 4 years, but they were some of the best of my career. Thanks to all of the fans and to my entire SportsCenterAM crew.
Dave TuleyVerified account @ViewFromVegas 29m29 minutes ago
Somewhere sports bettors cheer and somewhere dirty cops get payoffs but there's no joy in ViewFromVegas Nation -- I'm among the ESPN layoffs
@Dottie_PepperMy time with ESPN comes to a close today as I join the sidelines with so many other talented… https://www.instagram.com/p/BTXF6wnFFSB/
Reese Waters
@reesewatersESPN gave me the light and it's time to leave stage. Sincere gratitude to those who were so kind and supportive. Sorry for the mess I made.
Jaymee Sire
@jaymeeI was only at ESPN for 4 years, but they were some of the best of my career. Thanks to all of the fans and to my entire SportsCenterAM crew.
Dave TuleyVerified account @ViewFromVegas 29m29 minutes ago
Somewhere sports bettors cheer and somewhere dirty cops get payoffs but there's no joy in ViewFromVegas Nation -- I'm among the ESPN layoffs
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She's worth throwing in your Google Machine.
Nice to see that the MLBN show they'll be simulcasting is the most hot take-y on the channel. Fits right in with the other shit they have on there.
Jade McCarthy
@JadeMcCarthy
Proud of my time at ESPN-Proud of the great ppl there & those like me w a future elsewhere-Proud to soon be mom of 3 w a bright career ahead
@JadeMcCarthyProud of my time at ESPN-Proud of the great ppl there & those like me w a future elsewhere-Proud to soon be mom of 3 w a bright career ahead
In the big scheme of things, isn't the amount of money saved here negligible? ESPN is fucked because of the cord-cutting and rights fees. When is the correction about rights fees coming? It has to happen sooner or later.
I like him and follow NASCAR pretty closely, and I had no idea he was still at ESPN. I would have guessed he was gone when they lost the NASCAR rights.
2021 I think. The only content that is a money loser is CFB and the NBA. But they massively overpaid for their garbage NFL package.
These cuts will be an annual thing is my guess. Espn still makes money but margins go down. I don't see any seven figure names being thrown out.
These cuts will be an annual thing is my guess. Espn still makes money but margins go down. I don't see any seven figure names being thrown out.
There is no programming strategy change that is going to save ESPN's ratings. The entire concept behind ESPN is obsolete. But if you're the executive charged with convincing Disney not to fire you and everyone who works for you...time to make the 6pm SportsCenter more wacky!
Part of the difficulty with a correction is there's more competition now. ESPN will have to bid less on future deals, which means they'll lose some stuff to NBC/Fox, which means ESPN will have less live content, which means more airtime to fill with fluff, which usually gets worse ratings than live stuff.
The combination of losing subscribers while paying more for content is a death spiral. The number crunchers are staring at a balance sheet that is getting uglier over time. Not paying Ed Werder or Jayson Stark is a mere drop in the bucket, but it is the easiest thing to do. I haven't watched a SportsCenter in years ... when I was younger I wouldn't miss it. That's a big part of letting talent go. People want to watch the games. The rest of it is blah blah blah. Why do you have to tune in to ESPN when Schefter will tweet it long before it gets on the air? .more importantly ..if you have your apps set up with alerts you will never miss a breaking sports story...That's a big reason talent is expendable.
They just said on Wednesday night baseball that Doug Glanville was laid off---had not seen it earlier, but could have missed it
I'm just guessing here, but it may have to do with contract timing. If they have to buy out less of some guys contracts than others, that makes it cheaper to cut those guys.
Somebody above noted that they wished ESPN would go back to its original format and just show sports instead of people talking.
The way I remember ESPN back in the 80s was that (in between tractor pulls, world's strongest man, and arena football), the best content on ESPN was the talking. It was sports-obsessed people, with no agenda, not beholden to the pro sports leagues in any way, discussing sports.
They dipped their toes in the rights fees game with Sunday Night Football, then some baseball, then Disney/ABC bought the network and it completely lost its outsider status and became a marketing partner for the NFL/NBA/MLB. That was the beginning of the end. The cord-cutting then triggered the current death spiral. ESPN is a zombie product now, it's all over but the executives getting paid for as long as they can.
Josh Parcell @JoshParcell
When I was 5 years old my teacher told me I'd work at ESPN one day. I did. Today that dream ended. Thankful for the time I had.
When I was 5 years old my teacher told me I'd work at ESPN one day. I did. Today that dream ended. Thankful for the time I had.
I enjoyed SportsCenter back in the 90s when the shtick was genuine. Then it became a victim of its own success and the sausage factory started cranking out all these cheap facsimiles. It all became noticeably manufactured and lost its appeal.
That and ESPN shifted from talking about sports stories to trying to be the story with the worthless hot takez and bombastic debates. It took awhile but they finally ran it into the ground. I won't shed a tear for the demise of a worthless network but I do feel for the regular folks working behind the scenes who are affected.
Yep.
Roger Cossack the prime example of form over substance. He was not full time or close to it. The money devoted to him was negligible or close to it. You can whack 100 Cossacks, and it would not put a dent in the underlying economic problem. This is make believe, let's pretend.