What makes you think that?ESPN is not pushing her out, but her mission I believe is to get fired and then claim martyrdom.
What makes you think that?ESPN is not pushing her out, but her mission I believe is to get fired and then claim martyrdom.
ESPN long ago ceased to be a serious news organization if it ever was. It doesn't even pretend otherwise, apart from a few sanctimonious one offs from Bob Ley.Depends on what kind of organization you want to have. Don't most serious news organizations have a pretty strict firewall between the editorial and and business sides? If Paul Krugman wants to criticize in print one of the New York Times' biggest ad buyers, nobody is going to stop him.
It does pretend otherwise, though. Every six months or so, there'll be a column from the ombudsman or public editor, or whatever they're calling it today quoting some ESPN exec and claiming that there is complete independence and blathering on about journalistic integrity and standards.ESPN long ago ceased to be a serious news organization if it ever was. It doesn't even pretend otherwise, apart from a few sanctimonious one offs from Bob Ley.
This is ridiculous. She has a show on the network that advertising money is poured into. She’s not wrong on her views either. The Cowboys are disgusting to say players who don’t stand aren’t playing. It’s BS. Free Hill!ESPN is not pushing her out, but her mission I believe is to get fired and then claim martyrdom.
This is correct - ESPN ceased being a serious news organization more than a decade ago.Nobody paying attention takes that stuff seriously.
It does, though, provide nice fodder for faux outrage Deadspin articles.
So you forgot about Deflategate already?the most shameful thing ESPN has ever done is to make people defend the otherwise execrable Jemele Hill.
Gosh, you'd think they would have at least put out a press release when they ceased to be a Serious News Organization! I must have missed the memo. Serious News Organizations would never bend to the will of the almighty dollar, but even if they did, we would be wrong to call them out because serious people who are paying attention know that there is nothing more sacrosanct in the Real World than keeping your mouth away from the hand that feeds you, and that is the way it should be forever.This is correct - ESPN ceased being a serious news organization more than a decade ago.
Putting all that aside, the most shameful thing ESPN has ever done is to make people defend the otherwise execrable Jemele Hill.
If the point you are attempting to make is that ESPN is no more compromised than any other news organization, go ahead and make that case and we'll have a discussion. I will note that the link you provided does not make that case, but then you already knew that.Gosh, you'd think they would have at least put out a press release when they ceased to be a Serious News Organization! I must have missed the memo. Serious News Organizations would never bend to the will of the almighty dollar, but even if they did, we would be wrong to call them out because serious people who are paying attention know that there is nothing more sacrosanct in the Real World than keeping your mouth away from the hand that feeds you, and that is the way it should be forever.
What do you believe that I have forgotten?So you forgot about Deflategate already?
The press release came 14 years ago next month when ESPN cancelled Playmakers after a spectacular and critically acclaimed first season. Tom Brady was in his 4th season at age 26 and headed to his second Super Bowl. We can't even blame Goodell; that happened under Tagliabue's watch. Forget news organization, ESPN surrendered its street cred as an entertainment enterprise at that point.Gosh, you'd think they would have at least put out a press release when they ceased to be a Serious News Organization! I must have missed the memo. Serious News Organizations would never bend to the will of the almighty dollar, but even if they did, we would be wrong to call them out because serious people who are paying attention know that there is nothing more sacrosanct in the Real World than keeping your mouth away from the hand that feeds you, and that is the way it should be forever.
Agreed that the real tragedy in all this is that deep down Jemele Hill actually sucks and now we have to defend her. People forget that.
Cable sports giant ESPN will open its first New York City studio next spring at the new South Street Seaport’s Pier 17 — the latest advance for Howard Hughes Corporation’s $731 million East River waterfront redevelopment.
The just-signed, multiyear lease is for 19,000 square feet on the new pier’s third floor, two levels below the roof.
Because ESPN is not good with their money.How can they afford this?
Cowboy's sponsors=NFL sponsors=ESPN sponsors. If I call for a disatified folks to either boycott or "take things up" with my company's sponsor's after already being warned about my social media posting, I'm pretty damn happy to be only getting two weeks off. Many here were quick to jump on ESPN for tolerating the things that Schilling was posting before the shit hit the fan with him. YES the content of Hill's and Schilling's posts were vastly different, but both were equally stupid in the vacuum of the work place.I don't like Hill either, but it's like people aren't even bothering to read what she wrote. She was reacting to people calling on Dez and Dak and other Cowboys to defy Jerrah and kneel. She said she thought that was an unfair burden to place those players, and anyone who was that upset about it should take it up with Cowboys' sponsors. She also specifically said she wasn't calling on a boycott of Cowboy sponsors, just re-directing people who were calling on Cowboy players to put their own livelihoods at risk.
Seems like a perfectly reasonable take to me. ESPN is hopeflessly caught in the middle of all of this now and will continue to fuck it up at every turn.
Agreed. The anchors became bigger than the sports they cover.I barely watch ESPN anymore, but isn't part of the problem that they let their personalities have too much personality and none of them - outside maybe SVP - are talented like Dan Patrick or Kenny Mayne were? The channel seems to be entirely personality driven whenever I flick by or get stuck at an airport, but it's all just a bunch of yelling and hot takes.
I'm guessing it's replacing existing space they have in midtown and perhaps elsewhereHow can they afford this?
http://nypost.com/2017/10/09/espn-to-debut-glimmering-nyc-studios-next-spring/
Hill was commenting on an actual sports story that is sort of relevant right now. People were calling on Dak and other Cowboys to defy their owner and kneel and face the consequences. Her opinion was that it was unfair to ask these guys to put their actual livelihoods on the line now that Jerruh had gone and drawn the line, and that it would be more effective if they took it up with the Cowboys sponsors if they were that bothered by it.Cowboy's sponsors=NFL sponsors=ESPN sponsors. If I call for a disatified folks to either boycott or "take things up" with my company's sponsor's after already being warned about my social media posting, I'm pretty damn happy to be only getting two weeks off. Many here were quick to jump on ESPN for tolerating the things that Schilling was posting before the shit hit the fan with him. YES the content of Hill's and Schilling's posts were vastly different, but both were equally stupid in the vacuum of the work place.
I don't see the line as being all that fine. Believe me when I say I have no dog in this fight, Ms. Hill tweeted the following.Hill was commenting on an actual sports story that is sort of relevant right now. People were calling on Dak and other Cowboys to defy their owner and kneel and face the consequences. Her opinion was that it was unfair to ask these guys to put their actual livelihoods on the line now that Jerruh had gone and drawn the line, and that it would be more effective if they took it up with the Cowboys sponsors if they were that bothered by it.
It's a fine line, and I suppose reasonable minds can differ on whether she crosssed it (although if she cannot express that opinion I"m not sure how she can opine on the story at all). However, it is not in the same universe as Schilling's completely out-of-nowhere comments about transgendered bathrooms and nazi memorabilia that have absolutely nothing to do with anything that ESPN hired him to comment on.
The next round of cutbacks could come down in late November or early December, with 40-60 positions potentially being impacted, according to sources. The layoffs could hit both on-air TV/radio talent and behind-the-scenes production staffers.
In the month of October ESPN lost over 15,000 subscribers a day in October per the latest Nielson estimates.
Cannot imagine Schefter being pleased either.https://www.espnfrontrow.com/2017/11/espns-social-media-guidelines/
ESPN employees are no longer allowed to break news on social media.
Signing Woj seems like a huge mistake now. Breaking news is the entire point of having him.
Policy is in this pdf
https://www.espnfrontrow.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/NOV-2-RECEIVED-UPDATED-SOCIAL-MEDIA-GUIDELINES-10.221.pdf
11 out of 12 balls.....Yes. But what they can also do is tweet things that DIDN'T HAPPEN. Such as "These 29 teams didn't sign Gordon Hayward today" would be ok. "The Celtics signed Gordon Hayward today" wouldn't be.
It’s not breaking news if you have to write an article. Every minute (or second) counts when you are scooping a story.As a journalist, this doesn't read as "ESPN reporters can't break news," it reads that they need do it more on things like ESPN.com, etc. for example, they may want a story on the dot com about a trade or whatever and then linking to that. Still means Schefter and the rest can still break news, it's just a different way to do it.
Or it may just be a tweet from ESPN directly: "Woj reporting Shaq may make a comeback." Instead of breaking it on their own handles, they improve the brand by breaking on their accounts. Which, yes are full of other crap, but it is other crap ESPN really wishes you paid attention to.I would guess that the breaking news will be a link to a story--albeit a short one--on ESPN.com. So if Wojo tweets out, "Shaq making a comeback! See: www.espn.go.com", the story will be very short like, "NBA Hall-of-Famer Shaquille O'Neal is mulling a comeback to the league. More details to follow."
At least, that's what I think that they're looking for. This way, Twitter isn't getting all the traffic, ESPN.com is getting some too. Because wasn't it just a Tweet like, "Shaq making a comeback."? That's it, with no link.
If I had to guess, I think this is the answer.I would guess that the breaking news will be a link to a story--albeit a short one--on ESPN.com. So if Wojo tweets out, "Shaq making a comeback! See: www.espn.go.com", the story will be very short like, "NBA Hall-of-Famer Shaquille O'Neal is mulling a comeback to the league. More details to follow."
At least, that's what I think that they're looking for. This way, Twitter isn't getting all the traffic, ESPN.com is getting some too. Because wasn't it just a Tweet like, "Shaq making a comeback."? That's it, with no link.
This is interesting because the answer is, obviously, yes. Like in real actual news. It's not exactly groundbreaking.So during the draft, or at the trade deadline or the start of free agency, instead of refreshing twitter where I can easily find out all the news instantly espn expects me to... I'm not really sure, be refreshing their website over the over and hope I see the news after they review and post it? Or watch their tv coverage which is almost always delayed in reporting anything. Yeah this seems like a great idea.
Wha?ESPN is pathetic and I hate Mike Greenberg. I clicked on the M&M show for a minute yesterday and he is just short of this.
"This question brought to you by Quality Insurance company, Mike, did you see that hit on Sunday?" He f'n sucks and I hope his new show goes deep into the tank!
My unintelligible comment/example was that Greenie is so bad with the sponsor BS that he won't be happy until someone is sponsoring every statement he makes and that he's pitching the sponsor as a lead in to his statements.Wha?