soxfan121 said:
I'm pretty sure Eddie Johnson often turned into a legendary player in one of the mid-2000s versions of the game.
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I'm pretty sure Eddie Johnson often turned into a legendary player in one of the mid-2000s versions of the game.
You can play with fictional players, though, can't you? Or does that not work the way I think it works?soxfan121 said:
DrewDawg said:
3.5 for for an MLS club, correct?
I've decided to find out how good FM14 thinks Julian Green (v3) is going to be. Bayern has replaced Pep with me and we're going to be playing a lot of 4-6-0 and Green will get games. Managing Bayern is like having a cheat code. Just a redonkulous amount of talent.
Anyway, thus far Green has refused a USA call up (by me, managing both) thus far, as has Shawn Parker and Adam Henley of Blackburn.
soxfan121 said:
I'm not sure, since that's what I'm running right now I haven't seen if it changes. Would it be different if I was scouting him as a PL team? I figured his top level might be the same, but the chances of reaching it different.
I couldn't get Green or Parker to commit either.
After my first season in Portland (which was okay), I got a ton of MLS job offers and just got one from a Mexican team. I turned them all down though.
Exactly. A four-star player in League One is a three-star player in the Championship and a two-star player in the EPL.
Julian Green is a 1.5 (current) and 2.5 (potential) guy according to Bayern's Chief Scout. According to my USMNT scout, Green is a 2.0/4.5 guy.
2.5 is the level where an assistant stops telling you to sell a guy (at a top club). Lower than that and he's "not good enough for the squad" and should be loaned, sold or terminated.
Julian Green is a 1.5 (current) and 2.5 (potential) guy according to Bayern's Chief Scout. According to my USMNT scout, Green is a 2.0/4.5 guy.
2.5 is the level where an assistant stops telling you to sell a guy (at a top club). Lower than that and he's "not good enough for the squad" and should be loaned, sold or terminated.
Hey, if you wanna have your season interrupted by every goddamn international tourney there is, coach in the MLS.
Jesus. I can't afford 2 good keepers for crying out loud.
I did get my first offer from England, a team in the Championship. I declined though because I'm in the middle of my season. Because, you know, the MLS.
Jesus. I can't afford 2 good keepers for crying out loud.
I did get my first offer from England, a team in the Championship. I declined though because I'm in the middle of my season. Because, you know, the MLS.
rembrat said:
I did some FM googling way back when and stumbled upon a forum where a bunch of truly obsessive maniacs post
This guy took St. Albans City from the Conference South to the Premier League in FM10 in 11 seasons and won the CL within 16 seasons. There are plenty of others.
Honestly, once you reach a certain level of competence it's about time commitment. If you try to take a tiny club to the top, there are going to be growing pains where your league standing will far outpace your finances and infrastructure. You'll stall out trying to expand your stadium, invest in youth development, while churning the roster as you lose players to richer clubs. Depending on how ramshackle the club is, it can take a while to get over the hump.
If you want to take a tiny club to the top, it might be better to pick a league like Norway or Sweden where the seasons aren't as long. Doing it in England is a lot of 42 and 46 game seasons, with 2-3 cups on the side.
I jumped from Portland to Bolton because, well, that could happen.
The MLS season timing is just bad. In my last game, it's essentially a must win (2 points down, with game in hand, 2 other teams behind me that should easily catch me--but a win means I'll qualify) and I lose 3 starters to an international call-up. I draw, which means I need help, but the Bolton offer comes in and I don't have time to see if I make the playoffs--their season has started, they are 0-4, and I need to decide now. I take the job because my team's wage structure won't pay my top player what he wants and I'm losing another guy that is important, but not a full-time starter, so he wants to leave and my young striker never developed, so next season will be parking the bus all season and the board gets mad because I can't play the style they want.
Also had a young kid that wanted to go out on loan to get playing time, so I agree to list him. Before anything happened, injuries hit, and I have to start him. He plays well, starts 10 straight games, but his attitude suffers because when a loan offer came in in denied it. Because, you know, he was playing 90 minutes for me.
The MLS season timing is just bad. In my last game, it's essentially a must win (2 points down, with game in hand, 2 other teams behind me that should easily catch me--but a win means I'll qualify) and I lose 3 starters to an international call-up. I draw, which means I need help, but the Bolton offer comes in and I don't have time to see if I make the playoffs--their season has started, they are 0-4, and I need to decide now. I take the job because my team's wage structure won't pay my top player what he wants and I'm losing another guy that is important, but not a full-time starter, so he wants to leave and my young striker never developed, so next season will be parking the bus all season and the board gets mad because I can't play the style they want.
Also had a young kid that wanted to go out on loan to get playing time, so I agree to list him. Before anything happened, injuries hit, and I have to start him. He plays well, starts 10 straight games, but his attitude suffers because when a loan offer came in in denied it. Because, you know, he was playing 90 minutes for me.
Holy crap. Bolton is deep in debt and I had to raid the U21 & U18 teams to even field a squad. I can't make any transfers in because I don't have the cash to pay anyone. They have 6 decent players, but I had to start a 16 year old at CD who has 1 star.
Transfer listed 2 of my best guys and that's going to bring me about 1.3 million in 6 weeks when window opens, with another 200,000/mo. Hopefully I can spread that out and have a full team of players, but the next 6 weeks until I get that cash are going to be a slog.
Transfer listed 2 of my best guys and that's going to bring me about 1.3 million in 6 weeks when window opens, with another 200,000/mo. Hopefully I can spread that out and have a full team of players, but the next 6 weeks until I get that cash are going to be a slog.
So, uh, Jan 1 came, transfer window opened, sold my 2 guys, and ownership then instituted a transfer embargo.
Um, no thanks. I can't play out the season with a 16 year old on my backline, this is ridiculous. The board is already upset even though I somehow went 2-2-3 (for a team that was like 4-11-3). Fuck Bolton.
Um, no thanks. I can't play out the season with a 16 year old on my backline, this is ridiculous. The board is already upset even though I somehow went 2-2-3 (for a team that was like 4-11-3). Fuck Bolton.
I am awful at in game management. My first match in the Skrill North is going to be tonight.... I expect to get smashed.
Yeah, I went through a similar patch with QPR. Got them promoted back to the PL, but they had so many awful deals on the books when we started our PL campaign my transfer budget was zero and I had to cut about £150k in weekly wages.
Now, I could have done about half of that if someone had just been willing to take Julio Cesar off my hands, he of the £70k weekly wage, but I couldn't even find anyone willing to take him on a free. And since he would be due £8 million if released, the board wouldn't let me terminate him. Then I had the same thing with Robert Green and his £50k weekly wage. And Joey Barton's absurd wage. Each had a huge termination clause that the Board wouldn't let me work with. So I was forced to sell off any other decent asset at 1/3 of their value, and was left with a rotation of two shitty keepers and a bunch of scrubs and U21s around Joey Fucking Barton. As a NUFC fan I knew how this would end.
Got off to a 1-0 Miracle win over Everton then lost five straight. Board was pissed, but lo and behold Pardew was fired and Ashley gave me a job. Probably because he saw me sell off valuable assets well.
Now, I could have done about half of that if someone had just been willing to take Julio Cesar off my hands, he of the £70k weekly wage, but I couldn't even find anyone willing to take him on a free. And since he would be due £8 million if released, the board wouldn't let me terminate him. Then I had the same thing with Robert Green and his £50k weekly wage. And Joey Barton's absurd wage. Each had a huge termination clause that the Board wouldn't let me work with. So I was forced to sell off any other decent asset at 1/3 of their value, and was left with a rotation of two shitty keepers and a bunch of scrubs and U21s around Joey Fucking Barton. As a NUFC fan I knew how this would end.
Got off to a 1-0 Miracle win over Everton then lost five straight. Board was pissed, but lo and behold Pardew was fired and Ashley gave me a job. Probably because he saw me sell off valuable assets well.
Where AFC stands for Affordable Football Club.
Seriously.
Unfortunately, it looks like AFC Liverpool would have to be promoted three times (out of the North West Counties Premier League, the Northern Premier League North (the original home of the reconstituted Halifax Town, holla), and the Northern Premier League Premier, to be playable.
Or, to look at it another way, AFC Liverpool would have to be promoted to reach the division that bankrupt Conference sides go to when they restart.
Seriously.
Unfortunately, it looks like AFC Liverpool would have to be promoted three times (out of the North West Counties Premier League, the Northern Premier League North (the original home of the reconstituted Halifax Town, holla), and the Northern Premier League Premier, to be playable.
Or, to look at it another way, AFC Liverpool would have to be promoted to reach the division that bankrupt Conference sides go to when they restart.
DLew On Roids said:
In past games, I know there have been user-built add-ons that stretch down to the 10th level of the English pyramid. Not sure if anything like that exists for FM14.
Titans Bastard said:
How about all the way to the 12th level?
http://www.fmscout.com/a-english-lower-leagues-for-fm14.html
BrazilianSoxFan said:
Wow. The 11th and 12th levels are basically pure "playing on the park pitch" territory and there are 40+ leagues. Sounds like that guy put a lot of work in this.
Titans Bastard said:
That reminds me of that squad you were talking about in the Champions League thread. The one that did a roll call on Facebook/Twitter to see who would be able to play in their qualifying match.
So I finished my first season as Liverpool and the season went somewhat similarly to the real thing. I went on a run of like 17 unbeaten games to claw my way from 10th to 4th place (I won manager of the month in March/April). My last game was against West Ham and all I needed was a draw to cement my spot in the CL. I lost 1-0, with the lone goal coming off the head of one Andy Carroll. An assured Arsenal defeat of Tottenham would have given them the last CL spot and left me out in the cold. But before I ended the game to read the post mortem, I scrolled over to look at the day's results and saw that they had played to a 2-2 draw. Huzzah! I then proceeded to beat Everton 1-0 to win the FA Cup. Despite the disappointing finish, it was a good season.
Other items similar to the real deal: Suarez scored 36 goals (but didn't bite anyone), Glen Johnson and Jose Enrique was total shit and Lucas accumulated something like 500 yellow cards. I now have a transfer budget of $40M and will be upgrading my fullbacks, ASAP. I'll also need to replace Victor Moses' production - a statement that's as ridiculous as it sounds.
Bosoxen said:
If you want to play as the Gibraltar Phoenix, there is always the Official Gibraltar League:
http://www.fm-base.co.uk/forum/football-manager-2014-challenge-mode-scenarios/157238-official-gibraltar-league-fm14.html
First play-through for me. I've managing Arsenal to a 3rd place finish the first year and am currently in 4th halfway through this season. True to typical Arsenal form, the team just cannot get a result vs. City/Man U./Chelsea and I recently was given a 10 point in 5 matches ultimatum after losing to Feyenoord in the CL group stages. I had already clinched and was playing reserves to rest people for an upcoming Tottenham match (which I promptly lost because Ozil got a red card 5 minutes in).
I won the next 4 matches somehow to save my job...but I'm wondering what the advice is to stop this bullshit. Sure, I'm not exactly winning the league, but I am consistently in the top 4. Good teams seem to dominate possession despite my tactics tending to focus on maintaining possession. Playing defensively only seems to make things worse.
Also a question: how fast does a player typically improve? Say currently 1 star with 4 star potential (on loan or U21 squad) - when could I expect him to be useful to the first team (3 stars)?
I won the next 4 matches somehow to save my job...but I'm wondering what the advice is to stop this bullshit. Sure, I'm not exactly winning the league, but I am consistently in the top 4. Good teams seem to dominate possession despite my tactics tending to focus on maintaining possession. Playing defensively only seems to make things worse.
Also a question: how fast does a player typically improve? Say currently 1 star with 4 star potential (on loan or U21 squad) - when could I expect him to be useful to the first team (3 stars)?
Bayern is too much of a cheat code; no fun.
Instead, I've gone back to a game I setup before the WC - managing the USMNT, Hertha BSC & Sunderland, bringing together the German-American (Brooks, Chandler, Johnson, plus Boyd & Mix) and American talent (Guzan, Altidore, Cameron, Ream, Shea, plus Omar Gonzalez) on two rosters and managing all it to maximize development.
Just lost two games, back-to-back: Tied in the 78th minute away to Cardiff, my LB threw the ball in directly to Frazier Campbell who beats Brad Guzan with a beautifully curled shot from 35 yards. Unbelievable. Then Hertha is up 1-0 away to HSV in the 80th minute when Sebastian Langkamp loses Rafael van der Vaart and VDV ties it up. But wait! In the 88th minute, penalty called on HSV for taking down Boyd (who has been awesome) in the box. Levan Kobiashevilli, the Georgian legend, steps up with his 15/16 penalty/composure ratings and he shanks it off the post. Then five minutes into four announced minutes of stoppage time, VDV skins Langkamp again and buries the game winner. Whistle. Loss.
This game, it is cruel.
Instead, I've gone back to a game I setup before the WC - managing the USMNT, Hertha BSC & Sunderland, bringing together the German-American (Brooks, Chandler, Johnson, plus Boyd & Mix) and American talent (Guzan, Altidore, Cameron, Ream, Shea, plus Omar Gonzalez) on two rosters and managing all it to maximize development.
Just lost two games, back-to-back: Tied in the 78th minute away to Cardiff, my LB threw the ball in directly to Frazier Campbell who beats Brad Guzan with a beautifully curled shot from 35 yards. Unbelievable. Then Hertha is up 1-0 away to HSV in the 80th minute when Sebastian Langkamp loses Rafael van der Vaart and VDV ties it up. But wait! In the 88th minute, penalty called on HSV for taking down Boyd (who has been awesome) in the box. Levan Kobiashevilli, the Georgian legend, steps up with his 15/16 penalty/composure ratings and he shanks it off the post. Then five minutes into four announced minutes of stoppage time, VDV skins Langkamp again and buries the game winner. Whistle. Loss.
This game, it is cruel.
I took over Algeria, got them to final 16 in WC (lost to England in PKs---I scored in extra time and those fuckers tied it up), then proceeded to take them up to 12th in the world (from 33rd), including a 13 match unbeaten streak. Then I lose in the semis of the African Cup and they fire me. Fuckers.
Decided to take over Braintree Town FC in Skrill Premier even though I had some other international team offers.
Decided to take over Braintree Town FC in Skrill Premier even though I had some other international team offers.
I got addicted enough to the iPad version that I decided to spring for the full game.
Had a few false starts, then decided to just start like I did on mobile as an unemployed coach and see where the wind took me.
In the mobile version, that would generally be a Nothern League team because that's about the lowest level there. In the real game, you can go a lot lower and it seems that teams are a lot choosier about untested coaches.
Which is how I've ended up fighting against relegation for $200 per week in the Belgian 3A.
Had a few false starts, then decided to just start like I did on mobile as an unemployed coach and see where the wind took me.
In the mobile version, that would generally be a Nothern League team because that's about the lowest level there. In the real game, you can go a lot lower and it seems that teams are a lot choosier about untested coaches.
Which is how I've ended up fighting against relegation for $200 per week in the Belgian 3A.
Also, I may have played as this imaginary part time coach in a part time semi professional Belgian soccer league well past midnight.
First time in a while I've done that with a video game and I currently hate myself for it in the morning.
First time in a while I've done that with a video game and I currently hate myself for it in the morning.
Facing Barca in the CL Semis, first leg - up 4-2 at the half in the Nou Camp. Skrtel, Sakho, Lambert, Suarez with goals. Sakho adds another in the second half to make it 5-2.
Looks like shit-talking now-opposing keeper Pepe Reina pre-match worked out.
Looks like shit-talking now-opposing keeper Pepe Reina pre-match worked out.
Fifty wonderkids to help you in the transfer market.
Yep, it's a slideshow. Nope, I'm not listing them out for you. Yes, most of these guys do develop into superstars. No, Luke Shaw isn't on the list (but Callum Chambers is). Yes, this will deepen your addiction. No, I'm not sorry.
Yep, it's a slideshow. Nope, I'm not listing them out for you. Yes, most of these guys do develop into superstars. No, Luke Shaw isn't on the list (but Callum Chambers is). Yes, this will deepen your addiction. No, I'm not sorry.
soxfan121 said:
:fap:
I actually tried to grab Serge Aurier in the summer transfer window after my first season. Fuckers rejected my offer and countered with $32M. Nice to know Flanagan will blossom, however. Now I don't need to worry about spending a ton of money to upgrade from Glen Johnson.
Well, I did say "most". And a good part of that list is guys who will be very effective for lower level clubs. Aurier developing into a star for a CL team in the short term is a good bet; Flanagan...eh, not so much. He would however, be a guy who would be awesome for a L1 or Championship team.
IOW, you still need to spend money to upgrade Glen Johnson, especially in the short term. Flanagan getting 40 games/season on loan would be far more important to his future year development than being a rotation guy for Liverpool in a 14-15 CL season.
IOW, you still need to spend money to upgrade Glen Johnson, especially in the short term. Flanagan getting 40 games/season on loan would be far more important to his future year development than being a rotation guy for Liverpool in a 14-15 CL season.
FWIW, Yuto Nagatomo is a great buy as cover for Johnson/Enrique Moreno and takes over for Johnson in '15-'16 with aplomb until Flanagan is ready after 1.5 loan seasons
Can't find a good answer for this anywhere. If multiple teams are trying to get one of your guys on transfer, what happens when you accept all their offers?
What I want to happen is for them to then need to get into a bidding war for my guy. My concern would be that I just wind up accepting the first crappy offer chronologically or something.
What I want to happen is for them to then need to get into a bidding war for my guy. My concern would be that I just wind up accepting the first crappy offer chronologically or something.
Hrmm. Is thee a way to get the other clubs in a bidding war over transfer fees, or do I just need to negotiate with them individually?swiftaw said: