Former Patriot Michael Floyd Signs with Vikings

[lambeau]

Floyd has had a down season--do his drops have anything to do with surgery in August to repair three dislocated/fractured fingers from diving on a ball in camp?

Past three years were pretty darn good (2013-15):

------------ Total Yds - Ave -Yd/Rec- TD's
Fitzgerald 2,953 - 984 -- 11.7 -- 21
Gronk --- 2,892 --- 964 -- 15.1-- 27
Floyd ---- 2,731 ---- 910 -- 16,7 -- 17
Edelman 2,720 = 907 -- 10.7 -- 17

Fitzgerald and Palmer love the man and vouched strongly for his character.

 

[BigSoxFan]

As expected, Floyd was inactive today. Will be interesting to see if he is active against the Jets. Figure he needs some real game action to have any realistic chance of making the active roster come playoff time. Unless Indy somehow wins in Oakland next week, Brady is going to have to play in Week 17 against Miami so still potential for more opportunities for Floyd.

 

[Rico Guapo]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/20/michael-floyd-dui-arrest-video/

Scary.

 

[Van Everyman]

I know. A drunk black man in a car like that.

 

[Rico Guapo]

I know. A drunk black man in a car like that.

He's fucking obliterated beyond belief and behind the wheel...feel free to interject with an adjective of your own choosing.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Definitely .079 BAC right there.

 

[DJnVa]

I know. A drunk black man in a car like that.

You know, this is not needed.

 

[Sox and Rocks]

I know. A drunk black man in a car like that.

Darwin post winner! Congrats!

 

[AlNipper49]

I know. A drunk black man in a car like that.

Bring the racism to some other Patriots board please

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/12/20/michael-floyd-dui-arrest-video/

Scary.

It is and it isn't.

He was clearly shit-faced. On the other hand, he was woken up by a fairly aggressive (rightfully, imo) police officer and was groggy. He was confused, drunk, scared and doing the best he could do follow commands. Anybody who has had too much to drink and been startled awake can probably relate somewhat to his stupor. You can see the anxiety in his face leave the moment the police officer explains to him that he fell asleep at the wheel. He was confused and actually had no idea where he was until the police officer told him.

Again, not an excuse for getting shit-faced and getting behind the wheel, but his initial reaction for the first 60 seconds isn't all that scary when put into perspective.

 

[Rick Burlesons Yam Bag]

It is and it isn't.

He was clearly shit-faced. On the other hand, he was woken up by a fairly aggressive (rightfully, imo) police officer and was groggy. He was confused, drunk, scared and doing the best he could do follow commands. Anybody who has had too much to drink and been startled awake can probably relate somewhat to his stupor. You can see the anxiety in his face leave the moment the police officer explains to him that he fell asleep at the wheel. He was confused and actually had no idea where he was until the police officer told him.

Again, not an excuse for getting shit-faced and getting behind the wheel, but his initial reaction for the first 60 seconds isn't all that scary when put into perspective.

I think the scary part is more that he was behind the wheel in that condition. It is hard to imagine that he had the mental acuity at that time to avoid swerving into other lanes or up curbs, whatever.

I would agree that his behavior was absolutely fine with the police officers, he was somewhat respectful and outside of not keeping his hands on the wheel (a real bad move. Putting your hands on the wheel with your fingers extended is a RBYB endorsed move for all citizen-officer interactions) he was fine. But a guy in that condition driving an Escalade is scary.

 

[NortheasternPJ]

I don't have a much of an issue with the cop either. It's 2am in the morning and the guy is trashed. If I was reaching into a guy's car to unlock it and unbuckle his seatbelt I'd sure as shit want the guy's hands on the wheel as well. I'd be afraid of him taking my arm off or having a weapon.

Floyd is a rather imposing figure too (not race related) he's not some 5'4" guy who's 135lbs.

 

[j44thor]

Wonder if the front office was privy to the situation prior to claiming him, if not I think he is gone by end of day.
They put such a priority on character and football first that it is hard to imagine them being ok with this behavior from someone that at best will play a marginal role this season.

Edit by situation I mean level of intoxication, this wasn't a swerved a bit too much and blew a .1.

 

[BigSoxFan]

Wonder if the front office was privy to the situation prior to claiming him, if not I think he is gone by end of day.
They put such a priority on character and football first that it is hard to imagine them being ok with this behavior from someone that at best will play a marginal role this season.

Edit by situation I mean level of intoxication, this wasn't a swerved a bit too much and blew a .1.

I'm sure they knew how bad it was.

 

[jimbobim]

Wonder if the front office was privy to the situation prior to claiming him, if not I think he is gone by end of day.
They put such a priority on character and football first that it is hard to imagine them being ok with this behavior from someone that at best will play a marginal role this season.

Edit by situation I mean level of intoxication, this wasn't a swerved a bit too much and blew a .1.

If he is released today I think the Pats deserve to be pretty heavily criticized. I mean this is the exact reason he was available. Before signing/claiming him you almost have to assume a video of the incident is going to get released. As for the marginal role ? The Pats are one injury away from Slater playing WR in 3wr sets

Everyone knew 1) He was dead asleep at wheel. 2) Unresponsive 3) the police had to wake him.

 

[Curt S Loew]

I'm sure they knew how bad it was.

You mean they saw the video?!

 

[C4CRVT]

There's nothing funny about possibly killing or injuring people while driving drunk.

But the look on his face (in the second video) when he's trying to figure out whether or not he's going to allow them to draw his blood is pretty funny. Sad and funny.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Wonder if the front office was privy to the situation prior to claiming him, if not I think he is gone by end of day.
They put such a priority on character and football first that it is hard to imagine them being ok with this behavior from someone that at best will play a marginal role this season.

Edit by situation I mean level of intoxication, this wasn't a swerved a bit too much and blew a .1.

He's practicing today so the video didn't have any bearing on his status here.

 

[Devizier]

I think the scary part is more that he was behind the wheel in that condition.

 

[j44thor]

He's practicing today so the video didn't have any bearing on his status here.

Pretty disappointing.
One thing to think you can drive even though perhaps you have had one too many.
I've done that and know many, many people that have. Another thing to pass out at a stop light.

Can't root for someone that makes that decision, especially in this day and age with Uber and the special car service afforded NFL players.

 

[RedOctober3829]

Pretty disappointing.
One thing to think you can drive even though perhaps you have had one too many.
I've done that and know many, many people that have. Another thing to pass out at a stop light.

Can't root for someone that makes that decision, especially in this day and age with Uber and the special car service afforded NFL players.

I'm not sure what we saw in the video is any different than what we knew about the incident before it came out.

 

[Stitch01]

Agreed. I understand criticizing the Pats for the move. My first reaction to it was "ew" given the history. But the video showed the incident pretty much as described. Logically, it shouldn't change anything.

 

[j44thor]

I didn't pay much attention at the time. Just knew he was popped for DUI and that was it.

 

[DJnVa]

I didn't pay much attention at the time. Just knew he was popped for DUI and that was it.

I understand what you're driving at, but I'm not really sure there's gonna be a way to get stopped for DUI and when the video comes out, have it look anything other than bad.

 

[edmunddantes]

I didn't pay much attention at the time. Just knew he was popped for DUI and that was it.

it's also not his first. He has a history of DUI, and he supposedly had his come to Jesus moment already in college with alcohol. Looks like it's time for it again.

I still think he has a serious drinking problem and hope he doesn't kill anyone.

 

[Bergs]

I understand what you're driving at, but I'm not really sure there's gonna be a way to get stopped for DUI and when the video comes out, have it look anything other than bad.

Sure there is. I've known a few people get popped for 0.08 on a tail-light style stop who I'm sure would have looked absolutely fine on video. Floyd is so messed up in this that I have to suspect he may have also had sleeping pills or painkillers in his system.

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

Same video and even assume a prior DUI, do the Cards cut him if it's Fitz or David Johnson?

I'm bothered by the Patriots signing a guy that reckless with other people's lives, for sure. But there's a double standard here.

 

[DJnVa]

Sure there is. I've known a few people get popped for 0.08 on a tail-light style stop who I'm sure would have looked absolutely fine on video. Floyd is so messed up in this that I have to suspect he may have also had sleeping pills or painkillers in his system.

You're right, I completely forgot the taillight exception.

I'll amend to "in most cases".

 

[Byrdbrain]

You don't even have to pretend it is someone else. If the Cards are in the playoff hunt I doubt they cut him. They only did because they are out of it this year and he is at the end of his contract.
The only thing they lose is a possible mid-round pick if someone else signs him as a FA.

Edit:Obviously in response to DDB

 

[RetractableRoof]

Sure there is. I've known a few people get popped for 0.08 on a tail-light style stop who I'm sure would have looked absolutely fine on video. Floyd is so messed up in this that I have to suspect he may have also had sleeping pills or painkillers in his system.

You are being disingenuous here. The statements around the arrest included things like " he was passed out with his foot on the brake". If your friend who was arrested for DUI with a .08 level was also passed out with their foot on the brake then he/she needs to see a doctor for secondary issues.

Anyone that is passed out drunk (or about to be) shouldn't be anywhere near the steering wheel of a car. Knowing the circumstances, any video of the situation is going to be ugly. Frankly it should only be a surprise if it wasn't ugly.

 

[Bergs]

You are being disingenuous here. The statements around the arrest included things like " he was passed out with his foot on the brake". If your friend who was arrested for DUI with a .08 level was also passed out with their foot on the brake then he/she needs to see a doctor for secondary issues.

Anyone that is passed out drunk (or about to be) shouldn't be anywhere near the steering wheel of a car. Knowing the circumstances, any video of the situation is going to be ugly. Frankly it should only be a surprise if it wasn't ugly.

Reading what I actually responded to rather than what you want me to have responded to might help you with your unwarranted accusations issues.

 

[heavyde050]

There is a high probability that Floyd may have a drinking problem - not my position to make that call, but as no one was hurt we can hope he serves his time and turns his life around and we have a Chris Carter situation on our hands.
If not, he will be out of the league. Either way I hope he gets the help he needs.
He isn't Leonard Little or Stallworth; both of whom killed people.
Also, driving drunk is wrong period. Whether passed out at the wheel or driving home from dinner after a few too many.
Any drunk person behind the wheel is running the risk of hurting someone.

 

[mauf]

Wonder if the front office was privy to the situation prior to claiming him, if not I think he is gone by end of day.
They put such a priority on character and football first that it is hard to imagine them being ok with this behavior from someone that at best will play a marginal role this season.

Edit by situation I mean level of intoxication, this wasn't a swerved a bit too much and blew a .1.

You don't really believe this, do you?

 

[edmunddantes]

There is a high probability that Floyd may have a drinking problem - not my position to make that call, but as no one was hurt we can hope he serves his time and turns his life around and we have a Chris Carter situation on our hands.
If not, he will be out of the league. Either way I hope he gets the help he needs.
He isn't Leonard Little or Stallworth; both of whom killed people.
Also, driving drunk is wrong period. Whether passed out at the wheel or driving home from dinner after a few too many.
Any drunk person behind the wheel is running the risk of hurting someone.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. He already had his Chris Carter chance. He's on his third Chance minimum. Maybe more as no telling how often home town cops let him go in high school or ND cops when he was in college.

 

[RetractableRoof]

Reading what I actually responded to rather than what you want me to have responded to might help you with your unwarranted accusations issues.

The comment you replied to was speaking to the Michael Floyd situation specifically and to "passed out drunk while behind the wheel" in general. Your reply (if not disingenuous) was ignoring the context of the discussion.

But hey I've been wrong before.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Maybe I'm cynical but working off the assumption that there is someone or multiple someones on this and every roster who have done far worse things but weren't caught on tape, I have a hard time getting too riled up over this.

Then again, if he were in game shape I'd welcome back Aaron Hernandez in a heartbeat, so I'm probably the wrong person to comment.

 

[Valek123]

In the last few years I've come 100% full circle on these issues. I absolutely never have changed my stance on drinking and driving, as a volunteer EMT I see the back end of those decisions and they suck. However it does not in any way surprise me that these players have an increasing issue with substance abuse(pain killers, alcohol or marijuana) it is more shocking to me sometimes when they don't. The sport is brutal, the collisions insane and the lifestyle while millionaires is often lacking substance and real relationships. Many live a hollow life and are depressed, this to me just screams help... I hope for his sake this is the event that he can look back on and say that is the moment I turned my life around regardless of what happens with the Patriots. It would be a bonus if he finds the structure he needs within the organization to make a positive turn around, contributes to a championship this year and signs on long-term...

If he doesn't learn from this, he'll soon be another what-could-have-been story that hopefully doesn't kill someone else to reach his final path.

 

[heavyde050]

I think you are barking up the wrong tree. He already had his Chris Carter chance. He's on his third Chance minimum. Maybe more as no telling how often home town cops let him go in high school or ND cops when he was in college.

I was referring to the fact that Chris Carter got cut but Buddy Ryan when he was with the Eagles and that action helped serve as his wakeup call.
I am sorry that wasn't clear. I could be wrong, but I thought Carter had some issues while at OSU as well (but that was with an agent I think).
Back to the point - Floyd was 100% wrong in his actions. I hope he gets the help he needs and can deal with his drinking issues.
From a pure football standpoint, the Pats just paid a decent chunk of change for the chance to look at a player they may be interested in in the future.

 

[tims4wins]

So in more football-related talk... the Pats have, potentially, 5 more games this season. How many passes will Floyd catch?

I am going with 8. 5 in the regular season, 3 in the playoffs.

 

[moondog80]

Floyd blew a .217, which is "super extreme" in AZ and carries a mandatory 45 days in jail.

 

[reggiecleveland]

Bring the racism to some other Patriots board please

It may have ill placed in a discussion of football, but I believe his point was that simply being black guy in a car is enough to get you shot, since often police justify a shooting because they were frightened by nothing more than a black man in a car.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Floyd is so messed up in this that I have to suspect he may have also had sleeping pills or painkillers in his system.

This was my first thought watching the video. I deal with drunks every night at work and very rarely do they act like that from only alcohol. Has it come out as to what he blew for a BAC? I'd be very surprised if the blood drawn doesn't come back with some sort of drug in it.

Edit: wow, .217, that's pretty high.

 

[C4CRVT]

Holy shit. I'm not blaming "friends" or whatever but I wouldn't let a friend in that kinda shape get behind the wheel. I would have put up a fight.

 

[j44thor]

So if it is mandatory 45 days in jail does that start now?

 

[The Needler]

So if it is mandatory 45 days in jail does that start now?

Yes, all criminal penalties get imposed immediately following TMZ publication in Arizona.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

So if it is mandatory 45 days in jail does that start now?

IANAL, but yup, no trial, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

So if it is mandatory 45 days in jail does that start now?

 

[j44thor]

I don't mean now as in he has to fly to AZ today but what is the likelihood he is able to extend his hearing past the playoffs?

Seems like AZ is known for having tough DUI laws. And they are tough on out of towners as well. Perhaps the case won't get heard for 3 months, that I have no idea of. But if not and he has to fly to AZ for a court case don't see how he can help the team.

Thought this was interesting:

4. Out of state offenders will probably go to trial. If you live in another state and get a "Super Extreme DUI", you will have an inherent difficulty with taking a plea offer. Many prosecuting offices offer long periods of jail for these cases. It is not uncommon for them to offer the same amount of jail the person may get if they went to trial and lost. For the person that lives in Arizona, they may be be able to maintain their employment during their jail term if granted work release and / or home detention. However, out of state offenders may not have these options. While most Arizona courts will permit them to do their jail out of state, there are very few out of state jails that will accommodate them. Finding a jail in someone's home state for a few days can usually be accomplished. When it comes to jail terms of 30 to 45 days, it is nearly impossible. Most out of state jails will not accommodate these requests. Consequently, an out of state offender may need to go to trial and fight the Super Extreme allegation. If successful, on that count alone, the minimum jail can be significantly reduced. Thus, trial is often times the best option in these cases.

5. Simply being charged with "Super Extreme DUI" does not mean you will be convicted of "Super Extreme DUI." While prosecutors tend to offer extended periods of jail on these cases, that does not mean a reduction (or even dismissal) is not possible. There are several factors that need to be examined: (1) How far above a .200 is the test result? (2) Were there any problems with the blood testing process? (3) How bad was the driving prior to the traffic stop? (4) Is there a disconnect between how the person was acting and the test result? and (5) Are there any procedural or constitutional violations? Moreover, there are many other factors that may affect the outcome of the case. The general concept is that if the government believes they might lose the case, the better the chance of a reduced plea offer

http://duiblog.arizonaduicenter.com/2009/07/articles/super-extreme-dui/5-things-you-should-know-about-arizona-super-extreme-dui-convictions/

 

[joe dokes]

I'm sort of amused that there's a law on the books with "Super Extreme" in the title.

Is that worse than "Most Extreme"?

 

[Was (Not Wasdin)]

I suspect that "Michael Floyd Drunk" will soon become a widely-accepted objective standard.

"I was drunk, but I wasn't Michael Floyd drunk".