Greg Monroe(1 year, $5 million) to sign with the Celtics
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Monroe gets $5 million of the DPE.
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Monroe will sign a one-year, $5M deal with Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Pelicans could only offer $2.2M.
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account @wojespn 40s41 seconds ago
Monroe will sign a one-year, $5M deal with Celtics, league sources tell ESPN. Pelicans could only offer $2.2M.
I’m blanking on Monroe. Can someone describe his game a bit, and how it might fit on the C’s?
Looking at the numbers, it seems he’s at least an upgrade on Theis, though he might be even less capable of stretching the floor.
Looking at the numbers, it seems he’s at least an upgrade on Theis, though he might be even less capable of stretching the floor.
I'm sure Danny would've preferred to wait until after the deadline to consider all of his options, but this should help the second unit, especially on the boards. Hopefully he can be competent defensively.
Also- can the C's use the rest of the DPE on another player? $8.4M-5M leaves 3.4M, which is enough for someone like Tyreke Evans ($3.2M). Anyone know the rules?
Edit: Nevermind, they can't use the rest of it on another player: "If approved, the Disabled Player Exception can only be used on one player."
Also- can the C's use the rest of the DPE on another player? $8.4M-5M leaves 3.4M, which is enough for someone like Tyreke Evans ($3.2M). Anyone know the rules?
Edit: Nevermind, they can't use the rest of it on another player: "If approved, the Disabled Player Exception can only be used on one player."
He’s still really good offensively, almost all near the net, but will provide 15-20 mins of nice Offense off the bench.
His D has always been brutal tho but he’s coming in purely for some Offensive pop off the bench I assume.
Yeah he is 100% a low post player. But he's real good at it. You know all those nights we freak out because no one on the second unit can score? This should help a lot.
He's a different player than Theis. Monroe gives them a low post scoring presence besides Horford and added rebounding help off the bench. It's not a huge addition but their depth just got better.
Yes, a team can use a single exception for multiple players. A team can't combine multiple exceptions for a single player, though.
Wait, so Danny and Brad can stop pretending Hayward isn’t coming back? Or they can’t?
I need answers!
Edit - Ok, release the Hayward!
Ask, and you shall receive! Thanks guys.
As someone who’s a bit bearish on the C’s prospects this season (Raptors will likely capture the #1 seed, Hayward is unlikely to contribute meaningfully, etc.), I’m mostly relieved that Danny didn’t trade a future asset for a Tyreke Evans rental.
As someone who’s a bit bearish on the C’s prospects this season (Raptors will likely capture the #1 seed, Hayward is unlikely to contribute meaningfully, etc.), I’m mostly relieved that Danny didn’t trade a future asset for a Tyreke Evans rental.
This doesn't, and shouldn't, take them out of consideration for Tyreke Evans. That transaction is entirely dependent on whether his price ends up being something Ainge is comfortable with. But, Evans is cheap enough that moving the salary to acquire him is pretty easy, so losing the DPE isn't a major factor there. For example, Larkin, Nader, and a pick for Evans works as the framework for a trade.
Just until the end of this year. No real downside, other than if someone better gets bought out we likely can't get them instead.
He just got bought out by the Suns. The Pelicans tried to sign him to be their starting center but we had more money to offer due to the DPE.
I would have liked Evans or Williams but neither seemed realistic and I'm also glad this move only cost dollars.
I do worry that it might distract the Pats.
(Ducking)
I do worry that it might distract the Pats.
(Ducking)
I think Monroe's skill set for the Celtics team is a great fit; I just don't know how productive he is going to be. He's bounced around a bit and this is by far the best team he has ever played on, I'm not sure he is a super-great fit, even if he has skills this current team lacks. I think the risk is so low it's an easy pickup, but I'm keeping expectations down.
Monroe is a good passer but he lacks Horford's two most important skills: mobility along the perimeter and the ability to protect the rim, or even be an impactful defender at all.
I know he’ll start on the bench, but is there any reason to think he won’t earn his way to starter minutes over Baynes, especially with the way he’s been playing?
Baynes fits better with the starters where he doesn't have to score and can just focus on defense.
Monroe is better coming off the bench with offensive savants Smart (career FG% .358) and Rozier (career FG% .368).
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Yeah. Not the best fit but will help at the margin. Everyone who still has it in their heads that the C's need a traditional big who clogs the paint will be happy. However he isn't a difference maker in any sense of the word.
I doubt this is their last move too.
I doubt this is their last move too.
You will choke on these words, sir. Coach Brad going to put Monroe in positions to succeed
They’re not done, but I’m less bullish than others about their prospects of reaching the Finals, and therefore less willing to countenance trading future assets to strengthen this year’s team.
Without taking us too far afield, they’re roughly a .600 team since the long winning streak, and I think that’s indicative of their talent level ex-Hayward. I’m hugely optimistic about 2018-19 — Kyrie has been a terrific fit, Hayward seems likely to make a full recovery, Tatum won’t be a rookie anymore, Brown will only continue to get better, and we’ll have good depth even if Wyc decides we can’t afford to keep Smart (or another team bets big on his upside). I’m just less inclined than others to pull some of that positivity forward to this spring.
Edit: Not sure if you meant “done” in terms of making moves, or in terms of having a chance to compete. I took it as the latter.
Monroe's a very solid half court player. Good rebounder, great passer out of the low-post, solid mid-range jumper, and a good screen-setter. He's nowhere near the defensive player Baynes is and he doesn't protect the rim at all, but he's always struck me a smart player and he'll provide much-needed offense from the bench. I think he's a pretty good fit for the second unit. I'm surprised he's only 27, it feels like he's been working the Celtics' bigs for a decade.
Still a valuable offensive player and brings a high percentage close in game that the rest of the team can't really do. He's nothing on defense but at least we don't have to face him anymore, too. Good job getting him in here, he'll help.
Not that I remember. He also played alongside Drummond which would help hide a lot of shortcomings defensively.
I like that write-up. If that's accurate, and he's a load down low, then if the defense drops down on him, he'll have a host of guys to kick it out to.
I'm just getting old, it seems.
Not that it matters for this year, but Monroe's at the same age that Horford was when Al extended his range out to three. Horford was perhaps a better bet to do it effectively based on his FT%, but Monroe's FT% isn't terrible and he has decent mid-range touch. Pure back-to-the-basket bigs are a dying breed theses days, a credible three point shot would bode well for extending his career.
+1. agreed.
Brad is the master of getting the most out of his players' talents and hiding their deficiencies. This is an excellent low/no talent cost move.
Everyone understands that the modern game dictates spreading the floor with shooters (Celtics offence of choice). BUT it can't hurt to have the option of a talented low post scorer as your #10/11 player. His minutes will depend on the situation, and Brad will shrewdly take advantage of the matchups.
Monroe is also Baynes injury insurance.
This probably takes us out of the Lou Williams sweepstakes but keeps us involved in Tyreke Evans and Rodney Hood discussions.
He's a good insurance policy for this years playoffs since he brings a skillset no one else seemingly has (low post half-court offense)'.Happy we didn't give up long term assets of any kind. He doesn't fit long term with his lack of ability on the perimeter or defense but with this deal that's fine.
Good guy to get to go up against Toronto (with their long wings causing difficulty for Brown/Tatum, etc.)
Also need rebounding bad, he's instantly our best one.
Good guy to get to go up against Toronto (with their long wings causing difficulty for Brown/Tatum, etc.)
Also need rebounding bad, he's instantly our best one.
Good hands, crafty finisher, a load in the post, good passer, and can rebound. Do I Iove the defense? No, but Brad has worked around worse and will craft some lineups to optimize his skills.
So still the best team in the East?
Since their 12-1 stretch the Raptors are 11-8 (a .578 WP) and just .594 overall for the full season not including it.
The Cavaliers since their 18-1 stretch are a .368 team (going 7-12), and would be sitting at 12-19 without.
This was close to a best-case scenario with the DPE. Monroe is capable defender (not great, but not Even Kanter or something either). He probably should have tried to extend his game out to 3-point range at some point, but it's probably too late for that now. However, his passing is what keeps him from being a dinosaur on offense. Monroe has comparable assist rates to Atlanta-era Horford, which helps keep double teams at bay when he's in the post, and saves him from being a problem in the half-court offense.
He's not a difference maker, but he's a good fit for this team.
I still want them to bring in Tyreke.
He's not a difference maker, but he's a good fit for this team.
I still want them to bring in Tyreke.
Monroe's a great add. I agree with bowiac that the defensive concerns are overblown -- he's fine in the pick and roll, according to Matt Moore -- and the biggest problem this team has had is second-unit offensive woes. He'll eat up most second-unit bigs and for a team that gives up a lot of second-chance points, he's a nice band-aid. The passing ability noted upthread will be really useful, too, especially out of the pick and roll. Brad is going to be riding on him to pass. Gives them another option beyond Theis rim-rolls and the Chucking of the Second Unit. Anything to get them away from the Chucking of the Second Unit. I think we'll see a lot of Theis-Monroe units, and those will move the ball real good. (Much better than Theis-Morris).
And we didn't have to give up anything to get him.
If they can get Reke, too, then this team will be relentless offensively.
And we didn't have to give up anything to get him.
If they can get Reke, too, then this team will be relentless offensively.
Finally something Georgetown-related I can be excited about! I like Monroe a lot and think he will help, but agree that there might be other areas to upgrade that are more pressing. I did think he would develop an outside shot - he did shoot it occasionally in college and has nice touch. Crafty lefty in the post.
Here he is scoring 25 against Detroit last year, some of those points were scored head to head against Baynes.
It's almost like if you take any team's hottest stretch out of the equation they don't look as good.
I like it. I always like bringing in a player who has a different skill set - it allows the coach to play a different game with the right matchup. And all it cost was money (and any potential future opportunity).
As for his Monroe's D, Irving came in with a lot of question marks and he's done a good job so far. Stevens will demand a certain level of defense, his EC-leading teammates will also demand a higher level. If he has any inner fortitude (and if he wants playing time for his next contract), he'll at least give effort and that's a big piece of it. Don't know his BB IQ though.
As for his Monroe's D, Irving came in with a lot of question marks and he's done a good job so far. Stevens will demand a certain level of defense, his EC-leading teammates will also demand a higher level. If he has any inner fortitude (and if he wants playing time for his next contract), he'll at least give effort and that's a big piece of it. Don't know his BB IQ though.