Hanley Ramirez is "day to day" with shoulder sprain
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This will nag him the entire season. Expect a lot less power now. Just exactly what this team needs.
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How is a situation where you have torn ligament(s), where you need a sling even for Grade I, "day to day?"
How is a situation where you have torn ligament(s), where you need a sling even for Grade I, "day to day?"
Capsular sprain. He jammed it, nothing structural. Best case scenario, really, if that's all it isradsoxfan said:
Hanley Ramirez @HanleyRamirez
A bit sore, but back soon. Hang in there #RedSoxNation, and thanks for all the prayers
Hanley Ramirez @HanleyRamirez
I promise, gonna try to be back as soon as I can
A bit sore, but back soon. Hang in there #RedSoxNation, and thanks for all the prayers
Hanley Ramirez @HanleyRamirez
I promise, gonna try to be back as soon as I can
It's not like we are losing Hanley for the season.
Most shoulder sprains do not require surgery. People usually recover from them within 3 weeks, and often in a lot less time than that.
If it is the kind of sprain that requires extended downtime, we would know about it already. The differences between a Grade II and a Grade III shoulder sprain is very obvious, I am not sure he would have walked off the field if this was a catastrophic injury.
Most shoulder sprains do not require surgery. People usually recover from them within 3 weeks, and often in a lot less time than that.
If it is the kind of sprain that requires extended downtime, we would know about it already. The differences between a Grade II and a Grade III shoulder sprain is very obvious, I am not sure he would have walked off the field if this was a catastrophic injury.
Can we change the thread title to "Hanley Ramirez hits the wall extremely hard". Symmetrical opportunities don't come around often.
Oh joy.
This means Allen Craig will finally get some at bats so he will get back into his "rhythm" that Lyons was talking about on the broadcast last night.
I'll believe it when I see it.
This means Allen Craig will finally get some at bats so he will get back into his "rhythm" that Lyons was talking about on the broadcast last night.
I'll believe it when I see it.
I really hope this is not a situation where they don't DL him, they play with a short bench for a while and Hanley ends up missing ten days or more anyway. I understand Castillo probably needs more time, but it would seem to be the perfect opportunity to get JBJ back on the team, even if Craig gets most of the starts.
They actually have two days off in the next 15 days, so if they DLed Hanley right now he'd only miss 13 games. But I suppose they can wait until the off day on Thursday to evaluate.
They actually have two days off in the next 15 days, so if they DLed Hanley right now he'd only miss 13 games. But I suppose they can wait until the off day on Thursday to evaluate.
I know it's not September, but can't they just DL Hanley and bring up Brentz, and use Nava in LF?
GraysonGrandeGonads said:
What if he's better and can play in a week or 10 days? If you DL him now, you'd effectively lose his bat for multiple games. It's better to treat this as day-to-day now and see how it progresses in the next 72 hours.
Sean McAdam @Sean_McAdam 1m1 minute ago
Hanley update: improved range of motion though still sore. MRI shows nothing structural; nothing yet to lead to DL stint. Could play in TOR
Hanley update: improved range of motion though still sore. MRI shows nothing structural; nothing yet to lead to DL stint. Could play in TOR
JBJ can't come back up until Saturday I think, because of the 10 day rule. I think he went back down on 4/29.
In case you haven't noticed Bradley is already buried. He's no better than 8th on our OF depth chart.WenZink said:
Do these kind of strains sap power? I was hoping he'd set the Red Sox single season record for homeruns.
HomeRunBaker said:
I don't know about that. Hanley isn't great in the field yet, but is a lock for LF so long as he hits. Betts has been dynamic but not consistent. Castillo is an unknown. Right now, I'd put JBJ in the #3 slot as far as depth goes. Vic is injured and Nava/Craig haven't shown up yet this season. I can easily see the three of them outperformed by a premier defensive CF with an averagish bat.
In no world can we call JBJ's bat average-ish. I LOVE the kid and I want to see him on this team sooner or later, but from a team's perspective, he has only proven that he sucks at the major league level as a hitter. If they knew his bat would be average, he'd be up here already and Craig would be gone. But they clearly do not believe yet that he's at a point where he can sustain the success he's having in AAA up in Boston. Just like everywhere else, it's only been a month in Pawtucket, too.
I think JBJ is a better fit right now besides just his defense. Despite his slightly above average speed, he is a solid base runner. They have Ortiz, Napoli, and Sandoval in the lineup who are plodding at best on the bases (Papi is already very limited, and even worse when he decides not to run). Adding Craig who is nearly as bad as Papi isn't going to help the offense generate runs when they aren't hitting well.luckysox said:
Bradley has been abysmal, but he was still a half win above replacement due to his defense and base running abilities.
Granted most of this is moot when Hanley is back, but more of an argument that JBJ could probably contribute more right now even if his bat doesn't improve much. Probably gonna start a new topic on base running now that I think about it.
luckysox said:
I agree with you. JBJ would have to translate a portion of the success he's currently having to MLB and sustain it; at that point he would leapfrog way up the depth chart. I didn't mean to imply he's a lock to bat as an averageish MLB CF. Or that calling him up now is the right thing to do.
Sometimes there seems to be a sort of statistical inertia that gets factored into our analysis of players. Two interesting cases. JBJ was abysmal in MLB previously - yet he's got the physical talent to hit and is doing so in AAA. Craig was great previously but has soundly sucked this year while also having the physical talent to hit. How predictive are the numbers from the past. Neither should have hit as badly as they did/have. Either could settle into what one reasonably expects from their skill set. Or both could fail.
There is/was a small window of opportunity if Hanley goes on the DL, (which seems unlikely) Victorino won't be back for a week or so, and the Sox want Castillo to get some AB's in AAA after a year off. It would be JBJ, Craig and Nava sharing for a week, and Jackie is the only on that can play all three outfield positions.HomeRunBaker said:
Bradley will be back next year as the fourth outfielder, which is a perfect spot for him to reestablish trust. If he proves he can hit above replacement level as a backup, maybe he gets the CF job back when Ramirez moves to DH on Ortiz's retirement.
It would be so nice if Rusney gets up to speed soon.
Hanley almost has to be moved to first. He's an absolute menace out there, and I don't mean to the day's opponent.
Hanley almost has to be moved to first. He's an absolute menace out there, and I don't mean to the day's opponent.
