If Chicago was really offered Jaylen/Nets 2017/lesser picks for a 28 year-old Butler, they are morons for not accepting.
Danny dogdging bullets like Neo in the Matrix if that was really on the table and multiple picks for Winslow was.
He's had more than "a nice month". He's been a pretty reliable defensive player for the Celtics, and has been improving as the year goes on. The Synergy play analysis rated him at the 88th percentile amongst NBA defensive players for the year (essentially one of the fifty best defensive players in the NBA), and he improved after they moved him into the starting lineup.
He's been playing at another level since the all star break too. Granted that's what rookies do. If Jaylen finishes out the season the way he's been playing since February or the All Star break, he's going to make a strong run at ROY but ultimately fall short of Dario Saric and Malcolm Brogdon. Right now, you can't really argue with a Dario Saric vote given the Sixers are 5-4 since he started to beast. Right now, I'm not even sure what to think of Dario Saric and his ceiling.
They're just good rebounders. If you watch Horford, his form is terrible and he's not the feistiest guy. That's why his numbers are relatively weak (factoring in position). Watch him here:
Just a thought... If you bring your big men out to the 3 point line to space things out, and a rebound is available and no bigs are under the basket it would make sense that the fastest reactions and fastest foot speed would have an advantage to getting to that orphaned rebound. If one of those athletes that possesses those attributes actually pays attention to the possibility of rebounds, it would make sense they would have higher rebound numbers in a Stevens offense than guards in offenses that have their bigs in the paint.
Usually on bad rebounding teams, the best athlete leads the team in rebounds. It's what makes Russell Westbrook so special since his team actually has good rebounders. But yeah, it basically is that simple. I guess it is possible AB has a certain skill set that allows him to get more rebounds in a Steven's system than another SG without that skill set would get. Terry Rozier would have to share that skill set too though.
Yeah. This. Hes pretty good on ball 1 on 1 defender who misses rotations at times. The upside for this kid is undeniable and as is hes a pretty valuable player.
went to NBA.com and sure enough, JB is in 8 of the worst 11 lineups by +/- since Januray 1. But here are the lineups followed by total +/- , games, and minutes.
He's .486/.386/.693 since January 16th, which is when he became ensconced as a 20ish mpg player. (This was the only subset of his season I ran, as it feels like a pretty natural break point.) His TS% for this sample is .581. At this point, the surprise would be if he regressed back to the overmatched player he was at the beginning of the season, not if he keeps this up.
1/16-2/18 stretches out 12 games in which he was 6-24 from three. That 16-33 in the following 12 games is pretty much the entire reason he's at .354 right now. After the game on 2/18, he was shooting .288 from 3. Before January 16th, he was shooting .310. I'm not sure we can really make any statements with sample sizes so tiny. He's at 35/99 for the year. If he goes 5/11 from 3, he's shooting .363. If he goes 2/11, he's shooting .336. One thing is for sure, he isn't going to be shooting at a 16-33 clip all year. Marcus Smart had a 15-31 stretch from 12/23 to 1/10 and a 13-30 stretch from 1/25-2/8. It's not uncommon. It's probably safe to assume he's going to be at least Jimmy Butler from 3 point range but not much else (he could be better, I just wouldn't assume it).
Totally agree with what you say about JB, but don't underestimate what a coup it would be to grab a Steven Adams clone at #23 -- especially given the C's current needs.
Seconded. Like many in this thread, I think the development we've seen from JB lately is what we expect/hope out of a Top 3 pick. He's showing flashes of being an above average player on both ends of the court. But you could argue that a Steven Adams clone @ #23 is more valuable/unexpected then getting JB at #3. You expect to get an above average starter/all star in the top half of the lottery; after pick 20, however, I think most GMs are just hoping to find a bench/rotational player
Yes, Zizac was a great pick at 23, and it would certainly be a coup to get a productive starter at #23. Frankly, from what I've seen of Rozier it seems like he'll end up being a great pick at #16 once he is able to get some regular minutes somewhere.
It is also just the nature of Samrt's aggresivenss vs Brown's timidness. If a play breaks down, Marcus calls for the ball and posts his guy up or forces his way to the basket. Many times it is not a great shot, but it is probably a better shot than Brown getting the ball 35 feet from the hoop and trying to do something on his own.
My first thought was "no," because Marcus Smart is a horrible, horrible shooter from almost everywhere on the floor, but I wondered if maybe it was true of late clock situations. Without looking into play type:
I don't know if you've accounted for it in your look at his 'late' numbers - but if not don't forget to remove or not penalize him for his 8? long distance heaves at the buzzer. These were pointed out by a previous poster up thread. In the numbers you've got 8 heaves sounds like a significant difference.
On my phone, but I'm pretty sure there's a separate category for "shot clock off" on the NBA stats site, which would account for those heaves.
33% is pretty good for a 20 year old rookie. I think anything over 30% for him is a positive sign. He's shot better in the NBA despite the further distance, quickness you need to get shot off, and size of guys guarding him. His form looks very clean as well. I'm pretty optimistic he'll be be a good shooter throughout his career.
So last night he drained three mid-range jumpers—two off the bounce (one under pressure with the clock running down) and one a turnaround. This is the in-between game that essentially could end up being the difference between nice scorer and star offensive player, in part because of what he did to Tyler Johnson for his final bucket of the game. If he's hitting step-backs and turnarounds, forget about it.
