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June 2017 MLB Game Thread

Discussion in 'MLB Discussion' started by DanoooME, Jun 1, 2017.

  1. mauidano

    mauidano Mai Tais for everyone! SoSH Member

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  2. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    Kershaw with a 7-0 lead at home has to be about as high a win probability as a team could have after two innings.
     
  3. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    7-4 in the 5th now, three HRs for the Mets. I love baseball.
     
  4. Lowrielicious

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  5. DrewDawg

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  6. Average Reds

    Average Reds Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    Part of the reason I don't like the new rules is that they create a lot of ambiguity around plays like this.

    The play by Rizzo is clearly against the spirit of the new MLB rules regarding collisions at home plate. But it's not clear to me that it's against the rules as written, which still allows the runner to initiate a collision so long as the catcher "blocks the pathway of the runner" (He did block the inside of the plate, while still leaving room for Rizzo to slide to the outside) and that he doesn't deviate from his "direct pathway to the plate."

    Rizzo slightly altered his pathway to go to the inside part of the plate for the specific purposes of initiating a collision. But does that violate the rule, since he is entitled to target the inside? Umps had no problem with his play. We'll see what MLB does.

    And yes, Drew, I think we'll see some pitching inside tonight.
     
  7. Catcher Block

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    Rizzo's entire momentum was at the catcher, not the plate. If you watch the replay, the only reason he ends up on the plate is because he bounced off of Hedges.

    He started his slide right on top of Hedges and above the batter's box. Maybe he wears one in the ribs tonight, though I doubt Maddon will leave it at that.

    edit: I agree that (at best) this is against the spirit of the rules regarding home plate collisions. At worst, it's worthy of discipline, but I don't think MLB will go there.
     
    #57 Catcher Block, Jun 20, 2017
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  8. Average Reds

    Average Reds Well-Known Member Gold Supporter SoSH Member

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    I did not argue otherwise. In fact, I stated that "Rizzo slightly altered his pathway to the inside part of the plate for the specific reason of initiating a collision."

    My only comment was that this action appears to be in compliance with the rules despite being precisely what they want to avoid happening.

    I'm OK if he gets suspended or if he is not. MLB just needs to bring clarity.
     
  9. Red(s)HawksFan

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    Andy Green is my kind of manager. On whether or not the Padres would "retaliate" against Rizzo...

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  10. LogansDad

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    Nice, need more managers like that in baseball. Instead, Buck Showalter....
     
  11. DrewDawg

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    Well, hitting him would have been a better outcome than what happened--lead-off jack.
     
  12. soxhop411

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    Cody Bellinger has 10 HR's in last 10 games.

    22 on the year
     
  13. Lowrielicious

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    Fastest ever to 21 HRs.
     
  14. Deathofthebambino

    Deathofthebambino Drive Carefully SoSH Member

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    Yep, Cody Bellinger/Aaron Judge are absolutely assaulting major league pitching right now. Frankly, I thought what Judge was doing was incredible until Bellinger went on this out of control 10 homer in 10 games tear. He's got 22 homers and 49 RBI's in just 52 games (and tonight isn't even over yet). Because he was called up late, he's on pace to hit 50 homers and drive in 110 in just 117 games. WHAT???
     
  15. jon abbey

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    Corey Seager has 3 HRs and a 2B through 5 innings tonight.
     
  16. jon abbey

    jon abbey Shanghai Warrior Dope SoSH Member

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    He had a chance in his next AB to be the first person ever to hit for the cycle of HRs (solo, 2 run, 3 run, grand slam), but flew out, and then was one batter short of getting a 6th AB in the 8th (LA is home and winning 12-0).
     
  17. foulkehampshire

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    I'm unsure who's been more impressive this year.

    Bellinger doesn't have the same power (who does), but his swing seems uniquely tailored to keep pulling 400 ft fly balls to left, left-center. He's 2nd in the MLB in Hard Contact (49.2%). He's 7th in Fly Ball % (49.6), and 24th in Pull % (48.5). Obviously regression is in order when 34% of fly balls leave the park, but exactly how much? Much of it seems supported by his batted ball profile. I don't see any sort of BABIP drop - .282 looks about right if the ratios hold.

    And man, that swing. I've never seen anything like it. It's has the mechanical beauty of JD Drew's mixed with the sheer violence of Harper/Sheffield.
     
  18. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    Jose Ramirez won AL Player of the Week while becoming the first modern day player to collect 14 XBH in 7 games. He slacked off Tuesday night by hitting just 2 singles in 4 at-bats. He now has 8 consecutive multi-hit games, and another Wednesday night would tie the modern record. In those 8 games he's batting .568 (21-for-37) with 10 doubles, a triple and 3 home runs, for a 1.735 OPS.

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  19. moondog80

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    Kenley Jansen, the NLs version of Craig Kimbrel, still has not walked anybody, K/BB of 50/0 in 29.1 IP.
     
  20. Ford Frick's Asterisk

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    Jose Ramirez with a 9th inning single to tie a major league record with 9 consecutive multi-hit games. The Indians also scored 2 runs in the inning to take a 5-0 lead. It's the 18th consecutive game the Orioles pitching staff has allowed at least 5 runs. That's already an AL record, and two games short of the MLB record.

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  21. ThePrideofShiner

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    Seattle's Jarrod Dyson just broke up a Verlander perfect game with a bunt. Sixth inning of a 4-0 game.
     
  22. Lowrielicious

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    I'm sure some of the unwritten rules crowd will have a problem with it but I don't.
    Close game and plenty of time to still win it so you do everything you can to win. It's not like Dyson never bunts.
    Hard to argue with the results too - whether it was the bunt itself that rattled Verlander or not it's now 4-3.
    Bunt, walk, single, single, K, double, pitching change.

    EDIIT: seattle wins 7-5
     
    #72 Lowrielicious, Jun 22, 2017
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  23. E5 Yaz

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    Which the Mariners went on to win.

    If it were the ninth inning and 4-0, then I might be bothered. Sixth inning? Dyson did what he's supposed to do ... light a spark under the team.
     
  24. jon abbey

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    The Mets' team ERA is over 5.00 this late in the season for the first time since...

    ...1962, their stellar 40-120 season.
     
  25. edoug

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  26. E5 Yaz

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    George Springer hit in left hand/arm by pitch, leaves game
     
  27. jon abbey

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    The Mets set a team record for most HRs allowed in a series tonight (15 in 4 games!), but even better, their best relief pitcher, Jerry Blevins, just came in with two on and two outs, down 4-3, got Bellinger, but then walked Hernandez to load the bases, and then walked the pitcher Baez on 4 pitches to force in a run, It was Baez' 3rd career AB in his fourth year in MLB.

    Heh, and now another bases loaded walk, 6-3 LA now. The Mets announcers are going nuts, one just said "What's next, the locusts?".
     
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  29. jon abbey

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    It's even a little worse, they tied the alltime MLB record of those Phillies at 20, so if they do it again tomorrow, the record is all theirs. They have the AL record already, which I think was 18 (?).
     
  30. edoug

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    Bundy is going for the O's. He's been pretty decent. The Rays are surprising. Their pitching hasn't been that great but they are hitting pretty well. Second most home runs in the majors. Not counting the 15 runs they scored tonight, Tampa Bay was 8th in OPS.
     
  31. Oppo

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    Nationals score 18 and Harper had zero runs/RBI. Love the weirdness of baseball.
     
  32. MuzzyField

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    The Reds were happy to accommodate.
     
  33. jon abbey

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    For those of us who got no satisfaction all game from our teams today and are still jonesing for some quality Saturday baseball, Kershaw against the Rockies is on MLBN.
     
  34. jon abbey

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    Former Yankee Blake Parker with the save of my 15 minute premature post, whew.
     
  35. jon abbey

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    Kershaw's career record when getting 4+ runs of support (regular season)?

    93-0.
     
  36. DanoooME

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    Dodgers just scored 3 runs on two wild pitches to go from down 6-4 to up 7-6 in the 7th.

    As an aside, the Dodgers' PBP guy is fucking awful. Total homer in every way. Praising how great a team the Dodgers are after the two WP. Yeah, it's a great team that takes advantage of an opponent's fuck up. And back in the 3rd inning this guy spent 5 full minutes whining about how long it was taking to check an injury to Colorado's SP, Tyler Anderson. Then spent another 5 minutes whining about how long it was taking the replacement to warm up. Despite the fact that the new pitcher gets unlimited time to warm up in that situation.

    Vin Scully, oh how we miss you. Even Charley Steiner would be better than this oaf.
     
  37. soxhop411

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    And another runs has scored on a wild pitch


    SIX runs in total have scored on wild pitches in this game.
     
  38. jon abbey

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    Two more HRs for Bellinger in that game too, up to 24 now.
     
  39. SoxFanInCali

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    Kenley Jansen just hit an RBI double.

    The Rockies pen sucks.
     
  40. SoxFanInCali

    SoxFanInCali has the rich, deep voice of a god and the penis of Lifetime Member SoSH Member

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    And Jansen just issued his first walk of the season, after 51 K's.
     
  41. ledsox

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    Bellinger now has 6 multi HR games since his late April call up. Judgian!
    Jansen got a 5 out save in a game that ended 12-6. Dodgers scored 5 runs on WPs in the 7th and 8th. 10 wins in a row for LA.
    Today was the longest 9 inning game in Dodger Stadium history.
     
  42. Kliq

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    Ervin Santana going six innings, allowing nine hits and no runs today is amazing. That guy is having some season.
     
  43. simplicio

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    He really is. There's an interesting article from the beginning of the month about how, by the numbers, he was better last year. His BABIP against has since regressed to .208 from .143 (!), but the spray chart at the bottom of that page is insane.
     
  44. jon abbey

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    Cole Hamels was given a 9-2 lead tonight in his first game back, and he and the TEX bullpen gave up 13 runs in the next 4 innings, down 15-9 now in the 9th.
     
  45. DanoooME

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    Dumbass Harold Reynolds and Dan Plesac(?) arguing that the guy with the most wins should start the All-Star game no matter what. And that Felix winning the CY a few years ago with the best stats but a 13-12 record was a disgrace.

    Even Greg Amsinger can't hide his disdain.

    Reynolds needs to be fired.
     
  46. soxhop411

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    I think thats Jim Thome?
     
  47. Sox and Rocks

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    Antonio Senzatela, who has 9 wins for the Rockies but has been relegated to the bullpen, come on down! Grab your glove and toe the rubber as the all star starter! (and I realize Kershaw has 11 wins, so Senzatela is 2nd, but if it weren't for the brilliance of Kershaw...)
     
  48. DrewDawg

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    Statcast's newest: Sprint Speed.

    http://m.mlb.com/news/article/238290228/sprint-speed-shows-fastest-at-each-position/

    A point in the article shows that Usain Bolt is faster than than the fastest ML (Billy Hamilton) by about the same amount that Hamilton is faster than the slowest major leaguer.

    Bolt 37 feet/sec
    Hamilton 30 feet/sec
    Pujols 23 feet/sec

    That's crazy.

    For the Sox:
    Benintendi: 28.3
    Bogaerts: 28.2
    Rutledge 27.9
    Betts: 27.8
    Marrero: 27.5
    Bradley: 27.3
     
  49. simplicio

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    I was really surprised by that, thought Betts was significantly faster.
     
  50. Oppo

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    Hard to compare running on a baseball field vs a track built for speed. However, Bolt is nuts.

    I wish they had included the Freeze.
     

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