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Makes total sense that he would have issues shooting the 3 with a nearby defender given his bizarre motion, which starts weirdly low and forward and takes a while to load up. Accuracy can and usually does improve with increased reps, but release time and blockability doesn't.

Instead of pimping Lonzo 24/7, maybe LaVar should have taken a couple months during some high school offseason to break down and rebuild his shot, as Dell did with Steph.
I know everyone loves shitting on Lavar but saying he should replicate one of the better long range shooters in NBA history’s teaching methods with Lavar is being a bit unfair. It’s a hell of a lot easier for Dell to do that with his prodigal son than Lavar with his.
 

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I know everyone loves shitting on Lavar but saying he should replicate one of the better long range shooters in NBA history’s teaching methods with Lavar is being a bit unfair. It’s a hell of a lot easier for Dell to do that with his prodigal son than Lavar with his.
Yeah but then SRN couldn’t make it about Curry.
 

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I know everyone loves shitting on Lavar but saying he should replicate one of the better long range shooters in NBA history’s teaching methods with Lavar is being a bit unfair. It’s a hell of a lot easier for Dell to do that with his prodigal son than Lavar with his.
Is Curry bad with money?

That daughter of his looks like trouble—I can see it maybe taking some coin to keep her living in the style to which she has become accustomed..,
 

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How stupid can you be to shoplift at three stores in a foreign country especially one like China where there is surveillance everywhere
 

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SLMVPLB is his official name, and the only way he will be referred to, in my small circle. And just the initials too; that way the hanger on's that don't know...fuck em'.

I wonder how many Lonzos the SLMVPLB will get before Magic gets jealous
 
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You act like Magic ain't already jealous of SLMVPLB. Anyway, on topic: I saw where he passed Lebron as the quickest to get a Lonzo which is awesome.
 

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You act like Magic ain't already jealous of SLMVPLB. Anyway, on topic: I saw where he passed Lebron as the quickest to get a Lonzo which is awesome.

When you're right, you're right. Thanks for setting me straight and the great stat.
 

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He lit up Bledsoe when he was in Phoenix and again now that he is in Milwaukee. Everyone else seems to have a handle on how to defend him
 

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UCLA players on TV "apologizing" now. Nothing says sincerety more than a prepared statement (by someone else) read off a paper. LOL
 

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If it keeps Donald from making a full assault on UCLA, the kids, college basketball, the NCAA or whatever else he might direct his culture warriors at, the teams PR group was very smart.

The NCAA is the ultimate glass house so avoiding any kind of rock fight is a real good idea.
 

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The BBB brand is disintegrating right in front of Lavar’s eyes. His best hope seems to be well overrated if not a bust in Lonzo and nothing says Big Baller like stealing some high end stuff.
 

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I'm working on the first draft of my children's book to be published under the Big Baller brand:

Lonzo Ball
He does it all
He just can't get
His shot to fall


(1-9 FG, 0-6 3P last night)
 

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At yet when I was in LA on Monday, the local sports radio guys made it sound like Lonzo was indeed the second coming of Magic. The hype machine is still going strong.
 

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At yet when I was in LA on Monday, the local sports radio guys made it sound like Lonzo was indeed the second coming of Magic. The hype machine is still going strong.
They need that hype machine to justify the pick, hell their next pick in the draft is likely the one they should be hyping. If Lonzo doesn't spend this entire off-season re-working his shot he's done in 3 years.
 

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0 FTA in 6 of his last 10 games, plus an 0-1 in there. Can’t get to the line, won’t succeed
I realize that was at least somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but The Ringer had a recent article evaluating draft picks since 1985. They found the first 10 games actually lets you make surprisingly accurate predictions about whether or not the player will be a bust.

https://www.theringer.com/nba/2017/11/15/16654232/how-to-identify-an-nba-draft-bust-markelle-fultz

The article is ostensibly about Fultz, but if a player is injured then I can't imagine that the data is worth very much. I am curious about Ball's game scores given that he rebounds and passes well.
 

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I wasn't really being tongue in cheek. He can't get to the line, and when he does, he is at 50%. His shot sucks. Hard to see him being a star.
 

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I wasn't really being tongue in cheek. He can't get to the line, and when he does, he is at 50%. His shot sucks. Hard to see him being a star.
And that says nothing about the hit he's taking to his confidence and what impact that might have. A lot has been said about Jason Kidd's shooting woes in the media lately, but his rookie season he was still undisputedly the floor general on that team. Lonzo is playing so...small...most of the time.

Why would you even come close to fouling someone who has trouble scoring? He has very real problems that many here saw coming with the jump into the NBA talent pool.
 

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I'm still scratching my head over his 41.2% 3-pt. shooting in college. I know the line's a little closer than in the NBA, but whoa. He's had some serious slippage to where he is now at, what, 23%?
 

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I'm still scratching my head over his 41.2% 3-pt. shooting in college. I know the line's a little closer than in the NBA, but whoa. He's had some serious slippage to where he is now at, what, 23%?
Possible that it's all sample size. But it's also possible that college guards had to respect the drive more and mitigate their challenges somewhat. NBA defenders probably aren't giving him as much space to get his glacial shot off.
 

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I'm still scratching my head over his 41.2% 3-pt. shooting in college. I know the line's a little closer than in the NBA, but whoa. He's had some serious slippage to where he is now at, what, 23%?
Sample size and NBA quality defense.

Re: Jason Kidd, his shot was bad but not nearly as bad as Lonzo. As Boston fans, we should know a player can have a dreadful shot and still be good but Lonzo isn't Marcus.
 

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Jay Williams shot 45.3% at Duke and then only 32.2% his rookie year, but hard to say how much of that was adjusting to the triangle and also playing on a pretty shitty Bulls team. But J-Will also showed signs of not being a great shooter when you look at his college FT% - only 67.1%. Remarkably similar to Lonzo actually, who shot 67.3%.
 

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Sample size and NBA quality defense.

Re: Jason Kidd, his shot was bad but not nearly as bad as Lonzo. As Boston fans, we should know a player can have a dreadful shot and still be good but Lonzo isn't Marcus.
Kidd was also a very good athlete before the knee injury, who could get to the rim and use his physicality to bully other guards.

I think the Kidd-Lonzo comparisons are pretty overblown.
 

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Jay Williams shot 45.3% at Duke and then only 32.2% his rookie year, but hard to say how much of that was adjusting to the triangle and also playing on a pretty shitty Bulls team. But J-Will also showed signs of not being a great shooter when you look at his college FT% - only 67.1%. Remarkably similar to Lonzo actually, who shot 67.3%.
Of course, Williams took more than 500 free throws. Lonzo not even 100.

Then there's Fultz, whose FT shooting was even worse than Ball's in more attempts.
 

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Thus far, oddly, the comp is Ricky Rubio isn't it? Surprising defensive value, great passing, horrendous shooting. I don't expect that to hold longer-term, but interesting it's the start.
 

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In addition to everything about the NBA, there's always the ball to consider, which are a lot slicker than the Wilson balls that Lonzo played with at UCLA.

Kidd was also a very good athlete before the knee injury, who could get to the rim and use his physicality to bully other guards.

I think the Kidd-Lonzo comparisons are pretty overblown.
Kidd wasn't a very good athlete - he was one of the best of his generation. But I agree about the comparison (and have said as much in the past).
 

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Thus far, oddly, the comp is Ricky Rubio isn't it? Surprising defensive value, great passing, horrendous shooting. I don't expect that to hold longer-term, but interesting it's the start.
It was always the best comp. A less athletic Rubio who is worse on Defense. Ball was never in the athletic realm of Kidd/Magic etc.
 

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It was always the best comp. A less athletic Rubio who is worse on Defense. Ball was never in the athletic realm of Kidd/Magic etc.
And a far worse FT shooter who gets to the line less.

I actually like the Jay Williams comp but he wasn't around long enough for it to be of any use. It made me think of Jason Williams, who was a better FT shooter too, smaller and worse on defense.