I thought he was planning to drop a swear, so he apologized for it first, and then remembered to thank God.
Let's Go Bowling - and the Remainder of FCS, Too
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Good win by Bama. Georgia was not ready for prime time. Not a good look by Bama though. From the kid yelling “fuck Trump” coming out of the tunnel to the after the play stuff, punches, and the kid on the sideline. They’ve shown better than they did tonight.
The safety got caught looking at Tua. He had nobody to cover in the direction Tua was looking, though, so he should have stayed in his lane. It would have taken a great play even if he had - the throw was absolutely perfect.
Understood but you have to defend the end zone. A touchdown is the only way you lose.
Corner let him release inside too. I’d think if they’re going 4 verts, you’d want the outside guys having to deal with the sideline. I doubt you want him running free with a 5 yard sideline cushion. But there are smarter football minds than me on this board. Maybe they’ve got an opinion. But that inside release let him get deep quick.
Every UGA fan and player thought that was over after the sack. Great call catching the corner napping after the sack.
Well, you can also lose if they gain 10-15 yards on second and third down, tie the game, and then win in a subsequent overtime.
It was pretty gutsy to go for the home run. If that's incomplete, it's much harder to get in field goal range with one down left. Trying an 8-10 yard play was probably the percentage play.
Yes, the fact that the kicker may have had the yips helps the decision, but he did make two earlier in the game.
No question it was a type of zone coverage, and the corner thought he had help over the top. He barely ran with him after about 15 yards, because he needed to be responsible for someone else coming across into his zone underneath. After the play, I think the corner was looking at the safety like "WTF, where were you?"
UGA wins the game if they hold Bama to 10 yards in 2-3 plays. Ridiculous to suggest the safety should’ve been in some sort of prevent scheme.
Edit: As DotB said, it’s likely there was some miscommunication. Might not even have been the safety’s fault — if the CB stays with Smith, Tua likely throws elsewhere, even if Smith had a step.
That touchdown vs Georgia would have been fitting if he threw it on 3rd and 28.
He might not know Bartman, but I'm sure he was seeing what his life would look like. If anyone should be talking about a higher power, it's that guy.
Seems pretty straightforward on the final play, safety got suckered watching the quarterbacks head/eyes (and maybe even was shading to that side because Ridley was over there and you have to think that's where the ball is going in that situation), and didn't do his job, which was to have the deep half of the field on that side.
Pretty obvious from the replay, but holy fuck shut up.
Disqualifying comment if you're thinking of him as a head coach candidate.
I've seen some crazy s**t but never like that.
At least it was 2 guys the goat (miscommunication), not just 1.
Still can't believe that happened. Smart for Daboll/Saban to go for it on 2nd down not 3rd.
At least it was 2 guys the goat (miscommunication), not just 1.
Still can't believe that happened. Smart for Daboll/Saban to go for it on 2nd down not 3rd.
And your opponent just benched their starting QB for a freshman who took exactly zero snaps during plays that mattered even a single fuck during the season.
The thing that non-Alabama college football fans have to worry about is that this freshman QB they put in looks like he has real passing talent - and they've been winning championships with a great defense and excellent running game - their QB play has always been pretty secondary.
Imagine what Bama is going to be like with the same great defense and running game, but with a quarterback who can really throw? Yikes.
(Well as a hint, with him in there in just 3 quarters they outscored one of the best teams in the nation 26-10.)
Imagine what Bama is going to be like with the same great defense and running game, but with a quarterback who can really throw? Yikes.
(Well as a hint, with him in there in just 3 quarters they outscored one of the best teams in the nation 26-10.)
For the record, UGA is in Athens, not Atlanta. Plenty of Georgia Tech fans will be very happy today that the Dawgs lost; Georgia is very much the team supported by everyone in the state outside of the I-285 perimeter, but in the metro Atlanta area they probably have a majority of fans but by no means a super-majority.
That said, there are plenty of UGA/Falcons fans who will wake up today with horrific hangovers.
That said, there are plenty of UGA/Falcons fans who will wake up today with horrific hangovers.
If there's a saving grace for the rest of the Bowl contenders, it's that Tua's decision making looked pretty questionable at times. On the other hand, if he irons those out everyone's pretty much fucked.
Yeah, but with that coaching staff you'd like to think that he'll grow in that area. The physical tools seem to be off the charts. That TD pass was an absolute laser, and he showed an ability to move with his feet.
Big, big trouble for the rest of college football.
Maybe, but he was learning in real time - as they pointed out. After the first interception, there was another play where he was under intense pressure and wisely threw the ball to the sidelines. The sack... well... let him play more than 2 quarters and see how he develops.
Yeah, he scored 26 points in a half plus one OT possession in his first real half of action ever on the biggest possible stage, I thought he was insanely impressive. Even when he had a bad play (like the sack in OT), he came right back on the next down.
Fantastic second half and OT, the SEC is consistently my favorite football to watch (college or pro) and this was a great one. That last series of plays must have had incredible win probability swings, the missed FG at the end of regulation obviously, the sack of Fromm to force the long FG attempt, the 51 yard FG make, the 16 yard sack of Tua and then of course the 41 yard strike to end it.
Fantastic second half and OT, the SEC is consistently my favorite football to watch (college or pro) and this was a great one. That last series of plays must have had incredible win probability swings, the missed FG at the end of regulation obviously, the sack of Fromm to force the long FG attempt, the 51 yard FG make, the 16 yard sack of Tua and then of course the 41 yard strike to end it.
Yeah to be clear I'm not calling last night a one-off or anything. Just saying the field's kinda gotta hang their hopes on his few miscues or it's gonna be along few years.
Heard Lane Kiffen on the LeBatard radio show this morning. Dan was going off on how the last play was high school level call against high school level defensive. He asked Lane to say yes or no, Lane said "that's fair".
Lane basically said on 2nd and 26 in OT the goal on D is don't get beat long. Said they had the perfect defense called and it was really bad execution. Said 4 verts is a horrible call against cover 2. Said the corner needed to re-route the receiver and that the safety had one responsibility. Half the field to cover one receiver, didn't even have to choose between 2 receivers because they lined up 1 on left, 3 on right. Said he had no other responsibilities. The other side was good. He said it should have been a really easy defensive stop. Also gave Tua credit for the throw, but said he did the worst thing possible taking a 16 yard sack on 1st down. Said that decision should have lost the game for Bama.
It was a good segment.
Lane basically said on 2nd and 26 in OT the goal on D is don't get beat long. Said they had the perfect defense called and it was really bad execution. Said 4 verts is a horrible call against cover 2. Said the corner needed to re-route the receiver and that the safety had one responsibility. Half the field to cover one receiver, didn't even have to choose between 2 receivers because they lined up 1 on left, 3 on right. Said he had no other responsibilities. The other side was good. He said it should have been a really easy defensive stop. Also gave Tua credit for the throw, but said he did the worst thing possible taking a 16 yard sack on 1st down. Said that decision should have lost the game for Bama.
It was a good segment.
Here's my take on Bama being at the top of college football. They rarely beat themselves and they are playing teams that are learning to play at that level. Two years ago, Clemson was good, but not ready for that game. Had a bunch of players focused on declaring, was poor in kick coverage, gave up an onside kick due to alignment, bad gap discipline, pursuit was questionable....basically looked green on the big stage. Come back next year, clean up the little things and they beat Bama on the last play of the game with a generational QB. Beating a Bama team that had a true freshman at QB. And barely beat them.
Last night, I saw some similar things from Georgia. Just not ready for the big stage. Defensive execution on the last play on a team where the HC is a former D-Coordinator. Not having Chubb or Michel on the field for the last drive. Bad play call on 3rd and 3. Took a sack in OT. Had chances to ice the game but couldn't. They nearly won, but it was far from Bama's best game.
Basically Bama is Tiger Woods early 2000's. Tiger could beat you with his B game. But if his A game is on for four days, you've got no chance, and most players made mistakes against him on Sunday. Clemson lost to the Bama's A game 2 years ago, beat their B game last year, and Georgia lost to their B game last night. But really should (could) have won.
You can't recognize Saban's accomplishments without acknowledging his recruiting advantage, but he's not at the top of my stacked deck list:
Last night, I saw some similar things from Georgia. Just not ready for the big stage. Defensive execution on the last play on a team where the HC is a former D-Coordinator. Not having Chubb or Michel on the field for the last drive. Bad play call on 3rd and 3. Took a sack in OT. Had chances to ice the game but couldn't. They nearly won, but it was far from Bama's best game.
Basically Bama is Tiger Woods early 2000's. Tiger could beat you with his B game. But if his A game is on for four days, you've got no chance, and most players made mistakes against him on Sunday. Clemson lost to the Bama's A game 2 years ago, beat their B game last year, and Georgia lost to their B game last night. But really should (could) have won.
You can't recognize Saban's accomplishments without acknowledging his recruiting advantage, but he's not at the top of my stacked deck list:
- Geno Aureima
- WVU Rifle team
- Pat Summit (back in the day)
- Nick Saban
Final AP Top 25:
1. Alabama (13-1)
2. Georgia (13-2)
3. Oklahoma (12-2)
4. Clemson (12-2)
5. Ohio State (12-2)
6. Central Florida (13-0)
7 Wisconsin (13-1)
8. Penn State (11-2)
9. TCU (11-3)
10. Auburn (10-4)
11. Notre Dame (10-3)
12. USC (11-3)
13. Miami (10-3)
14. Oklahoma State (10-3)
15. Michigan State (10-3)
16. Washington (10-3)
17. Northwestern (10-3)
18. LSU (9-4)
19. Mississippi State (9-4)
20. Stanford (9-5)
21. South Florida (10-2)
22. Boise State (10-3)
23. North Carolina State (9-4)
24. Virginia Tech (9-4)
25. Memphis (10-3)
1. Alabama (13-1)
2. Georgia (13-2)
3. Oklahoma (12-2)
4. Clemson (12-2)
5. Ohio State (12-2)
6. Central Florida (13-0)
7 Wisconsin (13-1)
8. Penn State (11-2)
9. TCU (11-3)
10. Auburn (10-4)
11. Notre Dame (10-3)
12. USC (11-3)
13. Miami (10-3)
14. Oklahoma State (10-3)
15. Michigan State (10-3)
16. Washington (10-3)
17. Northwestern (10-3)
18. LSU (9-4)
19. Mississippi State (9-4)
20. Stanford (9-5)
21. South Florida (10-2)
22. Boise State (10-3)
23. North Carolina State (9-4)
24. Virginia Tech (9-4)
25. Memphis (10-3)
I put the list together pretty fast. Point is I think we'd all be good poker players if all we ever get are facecards. But the recruiting is legit, it doesn't fall in his lap, he works it, but its a huge part of the success and he knows it. He's been quoted as saying in college he gets as many #1 picks as he wants, in the NFL he only got one.
Stacked deck is unfair with regard to Saban (and to a lesser extent Calipari). Recruiting requires salesman's skill and hard work. It's fair to say plenty of top college coaches might be lesser at the pure coaching aspect than mediocre pro coaches, therefore wouldn't succeed elsewhere; it's not fair to suggest five stars just fall in their laps, especially if they aren't in talent rich states. If being able to recruit well weren't a skill, Texas would be the Yankees of CFB.
A stacked deck, no matter how it gets stacked, is still a stacked deck. I gave him credit for his recruiting success, I’m just also recognizing its an advantage. An advantage he works hard to sustain no less, but its a bit easier at Alabama than at most places.
I’m also not interested in the basketball version of this discussion. One and done’s in CBB make it a different animal. No one is winning 5 titles in 9 years in CBB. I think Calipari does a hell of a job considering his players are actually only in Kentucky for about 9 months out of their entire life.
It’s Saban. Tebow makes the salient point here:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Bolt/Tim-Tebow-says-Nick-Sabans-scheme-at-Alabama-changed-college-football-113459678/Amp
In an act against NFL royalty that embittered Don Shula, Alabama fired David Shula. The rest is history.
He is a defensive whiz, an almost impossible taskmaster (BB) and he enjoys the hell out of recruiting players and coaches.
Between Bear Bryant and Saban, only Stallings enjoyed any success.
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