More NFL stupidity

[tims4wins]

This is pretty minor, but just further stupidity by the league. This past weekend was my cause, my cleats or whatever. Every player could wear whatever cleats he wanted to promote a charity or whatever.

Except two teams didn't play this weekend - Tennessee and Cleveland.

The NFL is not allowing those two teams to showcase their causes in week 14 instead.

It's just... there are no words any more to these types of decisions.

 

[Bergs]

You know, I have a saying I use when discussing clients (not to their faces, obviously):

"I'm OK with you being an asshole. I'm OK with you being incompetent. Just don't be an incompetent asshole."

The NFL league office is run by a bunch of incompetent assholes.

 

[Hoodie Sleeves]

Anybody know if the NFL had to negotiate specifically with their official cleat supplier to get this week ok'd? It's possible that it's Nike (or whoever the current company is) that's preventing this. Its also possible, as Bergs said, that they're just incompetent assholes.

 

[kenneycb]

I mean Nike gets a ton of free publicity from people actually talking about the cleats players are using and all the close ups with the Swoosh predominately featured, so I doubt they would be against this.

 

[tims4wins]

Oh and on a totally separate note, apparently there were two snow angel celebrations yesterday - one was penalized, one was not. #integrity

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Anybody know if the NFL had to negotiate specifically with their official cleat supplier to get this week ok'd? It's possible that it's Nike (or whoever the current company is) that's preventing this. Its also possible, as Bergs said, that they're just incompetent assholes.

The league doesn't have an official clear supplier. Players are allowed to wear whatever brand they like, it's not tied in with the uniform and apparel deal. Hence Brady being an UA guy.

 

[54thMA]

This is pretty minor, but just further stupidity by the league. This past weekend was my cause, my cleats or whatever. Every player could wear whatever cleats he wanted to promote a charity or whatever.

Except two teams didn't play this weekend - Tennessee and Cleveland.

The NFL is not allowing those two teams to showcase their causes in week 14 instead.

It's just... there are no words any more to these types of decisions.

I saw that story; absolutely unbelievable, it's like the decisions are being made with the sole purpose of going up peoples asses sideways.

 

[PaulinMyrBch]

NFL is the like the ultimate version of crappy parents, taking "Because I said so" to a new level. If there isn't some contractual situation here and its just uniform uniformity in every week except 13, they are seriously missing an opportunity to look human. It's like even the good moves are sprinkled with reminders that they are control hungry idiots.

 

[snowmanny]

Unfortunately there do exist people who are even more incompetent than the NFL leadership and they work for the NFLPA.

 

[InstaFace]

NFL reverses course, the Titans and Browns can do their cleats thing next week.

 

[Over Guapo Grande]

NFL reverses course, the Titans and Browns can do their cleats thing next week.

Wait, they made a reactionary decision based on public outcry ? That is unpossible.

 

[mauf]

Oh and on a totally separate note, apparently there were two snow angel celebrations yesterday - one was penalized, one was not. #integrity

The one that got flagged involved four or five players besides the guy who (appeared to have) scored playing in the snow. I still hate the call, but I don't think you can hit them for inconsistency -- a group celebration like that is always going to get flagged.

 

[Bosoxen]

The one that got flagged involved four or five players besides the guy who (appeared to have) scored playing in the snow. I still hate the call, but I don't think you can hit them for inconsistency -- a group celebration like that is always going to get flagged.

Actually, I think the difference is that the San Francisco player went to ground to celebrate, which is always a penalty. The Green Bay player was already on the ground. If I recall the minutia correctly, it's not a penalty if the player celebrates on the ground if he's already on the ground - within reason (subjectivity alert) - as a result of the play.

 

[Jed Zeppelin]

Wait, they made a reactionary decision based on public outcry ? That is unpossible.

That's too bad, I was hoping for maximum stupidity with the league fining Jason McCourty and Delanie Walker who were going to wear their charity cleats anyway.

 

[mauf]

Actually, I think the difference is that the San Francisco player went to ground to celebrate, which is always a penalty. The Green Bay player was already on the ground. If I recall the minutia correctly, it's not a penalty if the player celebrates on the ground if he's already on the ground - within reason (subjectivity alert) - as a result of the play.

That's what I get for uncritically accepting my 11-year old's explanation of the penalty. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[tims4wins]

Apparently the league is creating a training video on proper vs improper celebrations. Can't see how this could possibly go wrong

 

[CSteinhardt]

Which one will have the punters getting hit?

 

[PayrodsFirstClutchHit]

Apparently the league is creating a training video on proper vs improper celebrations. Can't see how this could possibly go wrong

I know this has been posted before, but I believe the NFL was inspired by this Key and Peele video.

 

[Section30]

Martellus has a response to the NFL's video on Celebration

"I'm going to be taking a 15 minute dump whenever we're supposed to watch this "educational" video. I can feel my stomach bubbling now"

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/green-bay-packers-martellus-bennett-educational-celebration-video-twitter-032317

 

[jcd0805]

I have no idea where to put this but PFT Commenter and Big Cat just crashed the NFL Competition Committee's conference call lololol

 

[deanx0]

The second question about eliminating Sr. from player's jerseys because it's just the player bragging about having had sex and it's a family league was stronger than the opener about Andy Reid climbing a greased pole as a replacement for extra point kicks

 

[jcd0805]

The second question about eliminating Sr. from player's jerseys because it's just the player bragging about having had sex and it's a family league was stronger than the opener about Andy Reid climbing a greased pole as a replacement for extra point kicks

haha their jokes don't always hit but man do I give those boys credit for being an enormous thorn in the league's side. But the "Sr" question does sound legit funny.

 

[dbn]

The second question about eliminating Sr. from player's jerseys because it's just the player bragging about having had sex and it's a family league was stronger than the opener about Andy Reid climbing a greased pole as a replacement for extra point kicks

Is there something out there about eliminating "Sr.", "Jr.", "III", etc.? I hate the trend of using them on jerseys and would love to see them gone. The only reason a player should be allowed to use "Sr." or "Jr." is if there is a father/son duo playing on the same team and it's the only way to distinguish them. "III" should only be allowed if a player's father and grandfather both play on the same team as them (and, of course, have the same first and last names).

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Is there something out there about eliminating "Sr.", "Jr.", "III", etc.? I hate the trend of using them on jerseys and would love to see them gone. The only reason a player should be allowed to use "Sr." or "Jr." is if there is a father/son duo playing on the same team and it's the only way to distinguish them. "III" should only be allowed if a player's father and grandfather both play on the same team as them (and, of course, have the same first and last names).

Cool. How do you feel about Ichiro's nameplate?

 

[dbn]

That's a very much different situation, but if he wanted to have "Ichiro, Esq." I'd find it annoying and be happy if it was not allowed.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I agree it's kind of dumb, but actually getting annoyed or giving s shit about a nameplate you might see a half dozen times strikes me a bit as 'yelling at clouds'.

Edit: and in full disclosure, I often throw 'Esq' on the end of cards I send, mostly to my ten yo nephew.

 

[Curt S Loew]

The only reason a player should be allowed to use "Sr." or "Jr." is if there is a father/son duo playing on the same team and it's the only way to distinguish them.

Maybe they could wear different numbers to tell them apart.

 

[dbn]

Maybe they could wear different numbers to tell them apart.

Should players be allowed to put their given names on their jerseys even if there is no one else on their team with the same family name? Should they be allowed to add emojis after their names?

 

[Ralphwiggum]

Is there something out there about eliminating "Sr.", "Jr.", "III", etc.? I hate the trend of using them on jerseys and would love to see them gone. The only reason a player should be allowed to use "Sr." or "Jr." is if there is a father/son duo playing on the same team and it's the only way to distinguish them. "III" should only be allowed if a player's father and grandfather both play on the same team as them (and, of course, have the same first and last names).

Does this honestly impact your enjoyment of the game? I can't imagine giving a shit about something like this.

 

[dbn]

I agree it's kind of dumb, but actually getting annoyed or giving s shit about a nameplate you might see a half dozen times strikes me a bit as 'yelling at clouds'.

Edit: and in full disclosure, I often throw 'Esq' on the end of cards I send, mostly to my ten yo nephew.

Perhaps, but it's a dumb, stupid cloud.

 

[dbn]

While I have the floor, I think that if a player's hair is long enough to interfere with the opponents' ability to read the number on the back of their jersey they should be required to wear it up. Otherwise they have an unfair advantage.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Should players be allowed to put their given names on their jerseys even if there is no one else on their team with the same family name? Should they be allowed to add emojis after their names?

Personally, if a player put a poop emoji on their jersey, they'd be my new favorite player, even if they played for a hated enemy. Of course, I always wished Shaq would grow a huge fro and play with a pick in it, but ymmv.

 

[Curt S Loew]

Should players be allowed to put their given names on their jerseys even if there is no one else on their team with the same family name? Should they be allowed to add emojis after their names?

Stickers!

 

[dbn]

The only name-addition that should be allowed on a nameplate is "Ph.D." -- assuming, of course, that the player in question actually holds a doctorate. #JohnUrschel #GoBeavers!

 

[DJnVa]

 

[Al Zarilla]

The only name-addition that should be allowed on a nameplate is "Ph.D." -- assuming, of course, that the player in question actually holds a doctorate. #JohnUrschel #GoBeavers!

So, Frank Ryan, Ph.D. Too late for Frank.

 

[Cousin Walter01]

If they're going to put Jr. or Sr. on the jerseys, it should be a universal standard. It's really not necessary since there's no confusion. No one thinks, "Oh, that Mohamed Sanu!"

 

[PC Drunken Friar]

The last part of this thread should be named More SoSH stupidity. People really have a problem with Jr or Sr on the back of a jersey?

 

[InstaFace]

The last part of this thread should be named More SoSH stupidity. People really have a problem with Jr or Sr on the back of a jersey?

I'm not throwing the remote at the TV over it, but it's a bit like someone introducing themselves to you using superfluous honorifics. Just tell me your name, so I know what to call you. I don't need your family history any more than I need your educational qualifications or your list of sexual conquests. I feel the same way about people putting "... M.B.A." on their business cards or whatever. It's not a job qualification. You're just bragging that you have a degree. Congratulations, now shut up and go back to your spreadsheet.

I fully admit it's in "things that really grind my gears" territory. But if you consider that the player must have, likely, insisted on it being included, and ask what his reasons must be for insisting, maybe you can start to see the mild annoyance.

 

[dbn]

The last part of this thread should be named More SoSH stupidity. People really have a problem with Jr or Sr on the back of a jersey?

While you are scraping out what passes for life in the post-apocolyptic wasteland (if you survive to see it, of course), remember that the decline of western civilization began with Robert Griffin insisting on having "III" on his jersey -- and that you brushed it all off as SoSH stupidity.

Or maybe it's just another annoying trend like stressing "THE..." before a name of a school that doesn't even have a "The" in its name during video self-introductions. Except that there seems (?) to be a league-mandated norm for the circumstances in which one can have something other than their family name on the nameplate, and being named after your father doesn't seem to be a legitimate one.

Honestly, if I could eliminate one of (A) "Jr/Sr/III/etc. from being on nameplates, (B) announcers using "untracked" in inappropriate manner, or (C) Terry Bradshaw ever appearing on television again, I'd be hard pressed to make a choice.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

I'm all for stupid pet peeves. This is one takes the cake though. Good job guys.

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

How do you guys feel about hyphens? First initials?

I won't ask about Ochocinco.

 

[joe dokes]

Herb Mul-Key confused me as a kid.

 

[dbn]

How do you guys feel about hyphens? First initials?

I won't ask about Ochocinco.

Hyphens? If it's a hyphenated last name, why on earth would anyone have a problem with that? It's their last name.

First initials? They are only used when two players on the same team have the same surname. Why on earth would anyone have a problem with that?

You're missing the point.

edit: and Ochocinco? That was his legal freaking surname. Why on earth would anyone have a problem with that?

 

[Reverend]

 

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Hyphens? If it's a hyphenated last name, why on earth would anyone have a problem with that? It's their last name.

First initials? They are only used when two players on the same team have the same surname. Why on earth would anyone have a problem with that?

You're missing the point.

edit: and Ochocinco? That was his legal freaking surname. Why on earth would anyone have a problem with that?

You realize that Jr/III, etc can actually be part of ones legal name, right? I'm guessing no.

 

[E5 Yaz]

While I'd prefer his jersey just say GRONK, it's in the works for his name to be Sesenta-nueve this season

 

[InstaFace]

While I'd prefer his jersey just say GRONK, it's in the works for his name to be Sesenta-nueve thi season

"reporting eligible every play is a reasonable price to pay. Let's do it."

 

[dbn]

You realize that Jr/III, etc can actually be part of ones legal name, right? I'm guessing no.

You're arguing just to argue. You are implying there is no difference between someone having the name "Grugier-Hill" or "Ochocinco", and someone jumping on a fad and adding "Sr./Jr./III" to their nameplate.

edit: a better way to put it: it would be totally weird and inappropriate to not have a hyphen in "Grugier-Hill" on the nameplate, or not to have "Ochocinco" on the nameplate of the person named "Ochocinco". What alternative would there be, and by what logic would you have that alternative? So offering those up as being equivalent to adding "Jr./Sr./III" is a very poor argument. Sad!

 

[Reverend]

While I'd prefer his jersey just say GRONK, it's in the works for his name to be Sesenta-nueve this season