This one was bad but he's only danced at uva a handful of times and every year a key player and players have been hurt. His offense was fine this year. Just picked a bad day to play bad and get off track. Jesus, umbc looked like golden State out there.
NCAA Tournament Friday 1st Round Game Thread
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Yeah even with last night their adjusted offense ranks 32nd in the country. But perhaps they need to pick up pace of play. It wasn't so much a factor last night but the less possessions there are the more chance of an upset happening. It's kind of like in both Pats-Giants Super Bowls. The more possessions in a game the more talent will separate.
UVA did not give up 70 all year. Not in 2 games against UNC (49 and 63). Not against Duke (63). Not against anyone. What happened last night was completely out of left field. Ridiculously stunning.
Nothing went right for uva. Umbc couldn't miss. Every rebound seemed to go there way. The refs weren't the factor at all but even calls went in their favor. I'll be pulling for them but umbc will probably lose by 30 next.
I want to believe this, but I can’t anymore. Too many pathetic performances in March.
It wasn’t out of left field if you watched the WVU-UVA film of the last few games they’ve played. This game plan was a Bob Huggins blueprint. Most teams don’t have the personnel to attempt what WVU does, but UMBC followed it to a T, both pressing and the half court D. UVA has no answer for that.
Pretty sure a team or two in the acc, which uva rolled through, has the personnel.
Sure but that game was on December 5, in a true road game, against a top 20 team. This was a neutral site game against a far far far less talented game. And WVU scored 68 in that game. There weren’t high enough odds you could make on UMBC scoring 70 to get any action on it. They did the impossible.
Edit: to be clear while it would still be stunning if UMBC had won say 53-52 on a miracle buzzer beater it would be more believable than UVA giving up 74.
This is spot on.
It’s no excuse bc uva should have won regardless but the hunter loss was a killer. He would have neutralized Lyles and I’m not sure Umbc would had had an answer for him on the other side of the floor.
Hunter was not the team’s mvp necessarily, but he is by far their best talent
WVU was at UVA the year before. Same result. Point is the blueprint is out there if you’ve got personnel and go with that game plan. Sure teams in ACC have personnel that can play D. But those teams typically are elite enough to play their own style. Is it a shock that UMBC won? Absolutely. But they did exactly what UVA has issues with, so when you peel it back, it’s not as shocking.
OT but no upset in Women’s NCAA 1 v 16. LIke the NIT they play 4 10 minute quarters. UConn put up a 55 spot in the 1st quarter.
Why is it UConn's job to "help women's hoops" Were people making this complaint about Wooden's UCLA teams, the Auerbach Celtics or the current Patriots? Get better and compete if you don't want to get embarrassed. This isn't Alabama playing a 1AA team and torching them this is an NCAA tournament game.
Don't want to get blown out, recruit and coach better. This isn't CYO/CYC this is for real stakes. Everybody needs to toughen up.
This is bingo right here and why I had VA out early (honestly I expected it to be vs K-St even though I had to pick UMBC to fit my narrative) plus they were without a critical element to what made them so good. The top teams in the ACC are not game planning to beat Virginia during the course of the regular season.......they are running their system. It's one reason why they crushed some of them while squeaking by a pair of NIT teams two weeks ago.
The UConn opponent played a Loyola Marymount style - get a shot off every 8 seconds - kind of offense. Lead to a lot of UConn possessions. They made the most of them. Lol.
I admire St. Francis for continuing to do what got them there. They tried to be UMBC. Problem was, UCONN wasn't UVA.
Specifically... UCONN may not play the old LMU style, but they play quick. 7 100+ point games during the season (high of 124) and eight additional games of 90+ means that SFPA was just playing into the Huskies hands.
And then... they couldn't hit a shot. 18 for 81 from the field. 10 for 57 from 3. And who hoovered up the rebounds?
UCONN out rebounded SFPA 69 to 30. Which led to quick layups (UCONN had 38 assists on 59 made buckets).
Perhaps the most amazing Stat of the night is the UCONN'S bench scored 62 points... or more than the entire St. Francis team. Given that Geno has never been much for an extended bench...
(In a 4th quarter that was bench against bench... the Huskies won 24-4)
Specifically... UCONN may not play the old LMU style, but they play quick. 7 100+ point games during the season (high of 124) and eight additional games of 90+ means that SFPA was just playing into the Huskies hands.
And then... they couldn't hit a shot. 18 for 81 from the field. 10 for 57 from 3. And who hoovered up the rebounds?
UCONN out rebounded SFPA 69 to 30. Which led to quick layups (UCONN had 38 assists on 59 made buckets).
Perhaps the most amazing Stat of the night is the UCONN'S bench scored 62 points... or more than the entire St. Francis team. Given that Geno has never been much for an extended bench...
(In a 4th quarter that was bench against bench... the Huskies won 24-4)
So the key is that when you cheat, just make sure you cheat for non-athletes too and you're good to go.
Genius move by UNC.
This is true but very hard to do against virginia. You must shoot lights out, play solid defense to guard our perimeter offense and hope uva doesnt shoot well. UVA lost to wva because we just played like crap overall i wouldnt say it was the same plan as umbc or vt this year. I'd say Louisville and VT played us the same. Strong perimeter defense and they shot lights out while we couldn't get a shot. UMBC we had lots of open shots but didn't get them down. They had our defense out of rhythm something that i havent seen before under Tony. I think the injury to Guy was more a factor than Hunter. The biggest problem was we didn't play in the paint and drive to the basket. Devon Hall looked timid and not himself. Guy looked slow curling and moving. He couldnt get a decent shot.
Too many? This is the only bad loss in the tourney for us under TB. Sure we could have beaten Michigan State and Syracuse the other years back but those were tough teams. Not to make excuses but uva has had some tough injuries happen just before the tourney. Justin Anderson, Anthony Gill, Kyle Guy, DeAndre Hunter, London Perrantes, and I feel like i'm missing 3 or 4 more under the handful of times they've danced since Bennett turned them around. 2013/2014 was the first year they really turned things around and had expectations in the tourney. It's still early in his rebuild.
Bennett is a phenomenally good coach. He'll get them there before long - he's already shown the ability to reload and bring back his teams to a high level of excellence year after year. It's just a matter of time before that translates into Final Fours and a title.
Yeah, from talking with UVA fans before the season, my understanding was this would be a down year relatively speaking. They also played a fairly favorable conference schedule (another dumb outcome of larger conferences).
There was a reason they weren't preseason top 25. To go from unranked to consensus overall #1 seed was pretty remarkable. They had one of the great ACC seasons ever.