Ted Washington was an absolute beast in 2003. If Shelton is anything in the same zip code this trade is a steal.
Patriots trade for Danny Shelton
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I think you were looking at the total of his four year deal. His option should be in the ballpark of 7.4M. I'd guess they'd pick it up if they don't work out a longterm deal first, since it's only guaranteed for injury.
Shelton is more Wilfork than Washington I think (based on their playing styles).
Greg Bedard contacted a Browns source on Shelton: “Good against the run unless your center is exceptional and you will have to assign another guy to help on the center. … Good lateral quickness and has real good explosion to penetrate. … We are not a two gap team like NE so I don’t know about the adjustment he will have to make. … I like the kid.”
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2018/03/10/deconstructing-danny-shelton-defensive-tackle-fit-foxborough/
https://www.bostonsportsjournal.com/2018/03/10/deconstructing-danny-shelton-defensive-tackle-fit-foxborough/
I think he’s referring to Michael Bennett and the Pats making an arguably better offer than Philly but getting in too late.
I don’t think it’s really arguable, it was a much better deal, as that WR Philly gave up is a nobody. Seattle would have taken it, apparently, but the Pats were too late. I don’t understand how that happens in this scenario from a Pats FO perspective. Those two men are huge assets at positions of need. They aren’t going to find another Michael Bennett this offseason.
This move I like.
The theory is they should have made their interest known as soon as Bennett became available.
It's behind a paywall on Boston Sports Journal, so I won't post a link, but Bedard reached out to a source with Seattle and they denied that was true. His source claimed that Rapoport's reporting that the Pats tried to swoop in late with a better offer was not accurate. Bedard also said that it be very unusual for the Patriots to do such a thing, and that if they had legitimate interest in Bennett then they wouldn't have waited until the last minute to inquire about him. FWIW.
It's simple. If Belichick trades Jimmy G without first placing fresh calls to every team in the league then he's wrong.
If another team trades a desirable player to someone besides the Patriots perhaps because they didn't first place a fresh call to the Patriots, that's also Belichick's fault.
And if they trade for a young player who can help them in a spot where older players are being phased out ... but they don't address other needs ... he's wrong again
I’m worried he’s going to lose the locker room over this. I mean, not really worried, but it’s possible is all I’m saying.
Well, it’s clear evidence that Belichick’s going to retire. Kraft’s pushing him out in favor of Brady (who’s also retiring) and Gronk because they want to have more fun. Gronk is also retiring.
The more I think about this move, the more fascinated I am. The Patriots got destroyed in the Super Bowl in large part because their front seven is so slow and the solution was to add maybe the slowest front seven player in the entire league. Will be really interesting to see what they do in the draft.
What’s this about the Pats being destroyed in the Super Bowl?
Anyway, what about Claiborne? And are you saying the Wilfork model clogging the middle doesn’t work in today’s NFL?
Anyway, what about Claiborne? And are you saying the Wilfork model clogging the middle doesn’t work in today’s NFL?
The defense, I should have clarified.
Clayborn ran pretty well for an edge guy at the Combine but he's 30 now. He's not materially improving team speed. Shelton will absolutely soak up double teams in the middle of the line, but was that the problem the Patriots' D had last year? That's not rhetorical; I didn't see the middle run D as a huge issue but maybe it was much more of a problem than I perceived, and maybe compensating for that hurt the D in other, more obvious areas.
Football Outsiders had them as the worst team against runs up the middle with 5.06 adjusted line yards. It's football outsiders so take it with a grain of salt but I believe I read they were giving up around 5-6 yards on average on runs up the middle during the regular season.
It's a bit late, but Shelton is a smart player and can run the whole route tree. Quick in and out of breaks.
So it has been a bit slow today. Who wants to hear about what great shape Danny Shelton is getting into? It's not quite the "I'm in the best shape of my life" kind of article - Shelton admitted to needing help with conditioning and thinks he can respond better to the Patriots program.
The emphasizing endurance part is something I am sure is not unique to just Belichick but his focus and level of commitment to it is perhaps the most in the league. Any one know another program that puts as much of an emphasis on it as the Patriots?
This probably has been posted on other threads. It is pertinent here as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl-playoffs/2018/1/30/16949762/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-fourth-quarter-comebacks-running-conditioning
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl-playoffs/2018/1/30/16949762/super-bowl-new-england-patriots-fourth-quarter-comebacks-running-conditioning
Shelton's workload continues to go down. Some of that is probably gameplan (they were more worried about the pass than the run last night), but 10 snaps isn't exactly what you envision when you trade a third for someone (especially with only one year on his contract left).
