Round Two Discussion - Tampa

NickEsasky

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It really pisses me off that the linesmen won;t even tell Bergeron what he's doing wrong in the dot. In what other league do the officials not tell you how you are violating the rules?
 

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I think Bergeron getting run from the circle is unrelated to what he's doing at the time. It's some kind getting even thing by the officials. He's been tossed while just standing there waiting on the other Center, not even moving. He must have really pissed them off somehow at some point.
 

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It also makes me think that other EC teams have complained to the league/the officials about something Bergeron is doing that is giving him a bit of an advantage and that is now in their heads to watch him more closely/toss him when he tries to get that advantage....
 

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Stick a fork in them. Down 3-1 and aren't taking 3 straight without Krug. Not that they would have done it with him, either.

Maybe next year we'll have more than one line that can win a game for us.
 

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There's a lot of issues. But, seems like McDonagh was the bigger get at the deadline. We didn't shore up our D, the Carlo injury really fucked it, and Nash just hasn't performed.
 

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The Bruins made some effective adjustments between Game 3 and tonight. They neutralized Tampa’s aggressive forecheck by getting pucks up and out, they played much better in the neutral zone and took away Tampa’s speed game, and they kept the puck low in the offensive zone and made Tampa’s D work. They skated and hit.

Take that into Game 5 with and win it. Make your own luck.
 

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The Bruins made some effective adjustments between Game 3 and tonight. They neutralized Tampa’s aggressive forecheck by getting pucks up and out, they played much better in the neutral zone and took away Tampa’s speed game, and they kept the puck low in the offensive zone and made Tampa’s D work. They skated and hit.
All true. But losing Krug makes already long odds that much worse.
 

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All true. But losing Krug makes already long odds that much worse.
Well, this is why they got Nick Holden. He’s a significant downgrade from Krug, but he played 19 minutes a game in the playoffs last year for the Rangers. He’s not an AHL guy. We’ll see what he’s got.
 

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On balance the officiating has been bad for the Bruins but they have made some really poor plays which lead to goals. I think losing Krug will be a loss but the Lightning had made a habit of trying to abuse Grz and Krug as the smaller guys so I think Holden could be a good matchup.

As was mentioned upthread Mcdonagh would look really good right now.

Maybe next year we'll have more than one line that can win a game for us.
How quickly one forgets game 7 against Toronto.
 

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The Bruins' top 4 playoff scorers (first line and Krug) have, between them: 19 goals, 45 assists, 64 points in 11 playoff games.

The whole rest of the team is at 21-29-50, after turning in a sterling 0-0-0 effort last night.

In the Bruins 5 wins, they have 14 goals from their top 4; in their 6 losses they have 5 goals from the top 4, with 3 of them coming last night.

Shut down that group (as has been done 5 times in 11 games thus far) and you shut down the Bruins.
 

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If they win Game 5, they will be home for Game 6, and then anything can happen in a Game 7.

I felt Gionta was fine, but didn't get the stick away from Girardi at the end there. Donato deserves another game, as I felt he was dangerous all night, and played a solid game.

Krug looked like he broke his foot in half, but at least they have Holden. It's not over yet, even if they have long odds to win it. I'm sure Toronto fans were feeling like we were and they got to a Game 7.
 

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If they win Game 5, they will be home for Game 6, and then anything can happen in a Game 7.

I felt Gionta was fine, but didn't get the stick away from Girardi at the end there. Donato deserves another game, as I felt he was dangerous all night, and played a solid game.

Krug looked like he broke his foot in half, but at least they have Holden. It's not over yet, even if they have long odds to win it. I'm sure Toronto fans were feeling like we were and they got to a Game 7.
I agree.
This team deserves our loyalty and belief that they can win. They've shown us that all year.

Also agree that Gionta didn't play that bad and that Donato should be in there again.
 

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I agree.
This team deserves our loyalty and belief that they can win. They've shown us that all year.

Also agree that Gionta didn't play that bad and that Donato should be in there again.
I only saw the 3rd period and OT. Donato failed to go to the wall on the final play, instead just windmilling his stick trying to knock it out. Its what Pasta did when he was a rookie. Was he better than that the rest of the game?
 
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I only saw the 3rd period and OT. Donato failed to go to the wall on the final play, instead just windmilling his stick trying to knock it out. its was Pasta did when he was a rookie. was he better than that he rest of the game?
I thought his added speed created some good chances for us and aided in entering the zone better than we had in the previous game.
 

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I only saw the 3rd period and OT. Donato failed to go to the wall on the final play, instead just windmilling his stick trying to knock it out. its was Pasta did when he was a rookie. was he better than that he rest of the game?
He could have been more physical on the play, but the defensive lapse was on Gionta for not taking away the guys stick. I thought that line played well overall, and deserved better, but I blame Gionta more for that play.
 

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There's a lot of issues. But, seems like McDonagh was the bigger get at the deadline. We didn't shore up our D, the Carlo injury really fucked it, and Nash just hasn't performed.
Nash has been fine. He's been good in many aspects of the game. As I have said before, this is what Nash has been in the postseason for many years. He's got a rep as just a goal scorer, but he has improved his overall game especially defensively. He's far down the list of problems for this team.

I would have loved to get McDonagh, but the price to get him was very steep and the Bruins are not in a go for it all type situation at this point in the team's development. This year was not and still isn't win at all costs. The Nash acquisition was a fair opportunity cost in giving up Spooner who wasn't in the long term plans and also getting the Rangers to pay some of Beleskey's contract. We'll see if the 1st rounder and Lindgren will hurt down the road.

I'm sure as hell not giving up on this team yet. They've shown a number of times that they are a resilient bunch. Find a way to win Game 5 then bring it back to the Garden.
 

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Nash has been fine. He's been good in many aspects of the game. As I have said before, this is what Nash has been in the postseason for many years. He's got a rep as just a goal scorer, but he has improved his overall game especially defensively. He's far down the list of problems for this team.

I would have loved to get McDonagh, but the price to get him was very steep and the Bruins are not in a go for it all type situation at this point in the team's development. This year was not and still isn't win at all costs. The Nash acquisition was a fair opportunity cost in giving up Spooner who wasn't in the long term plans and also getting the Rangers to pay some of Beleskey's contract. We'll see if the 1st rounder and Lindgren will hurt down the road.

I'm sure as hell not giving up on this team yet. They've shown a number of times that they are a resilient bunch. Find a way to win Game 5 then bring it back to the Garden.
Please stop justifying Nash's play. The Bruins didn't trade a first round pick and two really promising young players for a 3rd line grinder. He's non-existent where it matters, on the scoreboard. If his play was as good as you say his line would be showing up on the scoresheet, but it's not.
 

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Nash has been fine. He's been good in many aspects of the game. As I have said before, this is what Nash has been in the postseason for many years. He's got a rep as just a goal scorer, but he has improved his overall game especially defensively. He's far down the list of problems for this team.

I would have loved to get McDonagh, but the price to get him was very steep and the Bruins are not in a go for it all type situation at this point in the team's development. This year was not and still isn't win at all costs. The Nash acquisition was a fair opportunity cost in giving up Spooner who wasn't in the long term plans and also getting the Rangers to pay some of Beleskey's contract. We'll see if the 1st rounder and Lindgren will hurt down the road.

I'm sure as hell not giving up on this team yet. They've shown a number of times that they are a resilient bunch. Find a way to win Game 5 then bring it back to the Garden.
I'm not giving up on them either, for the record. Just saying that I believe most here thought D was the biggest concern for the team at the deadline and that their getting McDonagh while we didn't add a top 4 D hurts a lot with the Carlo injury. Hindsight being 20/20 of course.
 

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To add, he was going for the puck and clearly using his ass to shield the puck. In the course his elbow hit Nash in the chin. Probably a penalty. Which I’m shocked they missed.
 

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On the one hand 4-1 is 4-1. Terribly disappointing end.

On the other, it really didn't feel like a 4-1 series for most of it. That fucking Game 4 officiating is going to piss me off till the end of time.
 

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On the one hand 4-1 is 4-1. Terribly disappointing end.

On the other, it really didn't feel like a 4-1 series for most of it. That fucking Game 4 officiating is going to piss me off till the end of time.
It's really game 2 and 4, followed by 5. 2 and 4 were the worst officiated games I've seen.
 

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Four even-strength goals from outside the first line in 5 games (McAvoy, Rick Nash, DeBrusk, and Krug). NONE after Game 2. I mean, I think that says everything.
 

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Four even-strength goals from outside the first line in 5 games (McAvoy, Rick Nash, DeBrusk, and Krug). NONE after Game 2. I mean, I think that says everything.
Yeah, their defenseman were allowed to do whatever they wanted physically, and the Bruins were getting called for it. This was an absolute bag job from game 1. Worst part about it is, I think Tampa is better and would've won a game 7 on home ice against the Bruins. But now we really can't assess going forward what this team needs to do to take that next step, and what just looked horrible because of how lopsided the officiating was.
 

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Four even-strength goals from outside the first line in 5 games (McAvoy, Rick Nash, DeBrusk, and Krug). NONE after Game 2. I mean, I think that says everything.
Without a doubt. And Tampa shut down the first line today. Of the youth corps, McAvoy was the only one who looked like he belonged. DeBrusk and Heinen — 5th and 6th leading scorers during the season — were shut down. Krejci was kept contained. Nash and Nash were mostly invisible. The fourth line grinders grinded away but came up empty.

Hedman, Stralman, and McDonagh were very good.
 

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Without a doubt. And Tampa shut down the first line today. Of the youth corps, McAvoy was the only one who looked like he belonged. DeBrusk and Heinen — 5th and 6th leading scorers during the season — were shut down. Krejci was kept contained. Nash and Nash were mostly invisible. The fourth line grinders grinded away but came up empty.

Hedman, Stralman, and McDonagh were very good.
To this end, the additions of Bjork and Donato as regulars with Frederic and Czarnik waiting in case of injuries should help with the secondary scoring. Tthey could use at least one guy on the 4th line with some upside. Nice line but exposed some by the Lightning.
 

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I don't know how other elite teams compare, but if Krejci and Backes are going to continue to produce like they did in this series going forward, keeping both is untenable.
 

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It stings. But they lost to a deeper and more complete team. They deserved better than a 5 game exit, however. Always like to see who goes in for which post-season surgery before making a final judgment.
 

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Goddammit, Cherry was just on Coach’s Corner and blamed Rask for “the whole thing.” Because he didn’t steal a game.

Edit: video proof. Skip to 4:45.

Money on O/U until the incoming Haggerty/Murphy tweetstorm?
 
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Yeah, that's painfully stupid. Rask didn't have a great series against Taranna, but he certainly showed up against the Bolts and was probably a top 3 player for the Bruins (Bergy and DeBrusk rounding out my top 3, with McAvoy likely #4).
 

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Yeah Tooker and Bergeron were the only two players who were consistently solid every game this round. Blaming Rask is pure nonsense.