Sabathia to Rehab

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Not that he was having a banner year, but he had pitched well of late and would likely have been useful.
 
His statement:
 
"I love baseball and I love my teammates like brothers, and I am also fully aware that I am leaving at a time when we should all be coming together for one last push toward the World Series. It hurts me deeply to do this now, but I owe it to myself and to my family to get myself right. I want to take control of my disease, and I want to be a better man, father and player. I am looking forward to being out on the field with my team next season playing the game that brings me so much happiness.”
 

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RSN Diaspora said:
Not that he was having a banner year, but he had pitched well of late and would likely have been useful.
 
His statement:
 
"I love baseball and I love my teammates like brothers, and I am also fully aware that I am leaving at a time when we should all be coming together for one last push toward the World Series. It hurts me deeply to do this now, but I owe it to myself and to my family to get myself right. I want to take control of my disease, and I want to be a better man, father and player. I am looking forward to being out on the field with my team next season playing the game that brings me so much happiness.”
wow... hope he can beat his addiction.
 
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Acrually he would have almost certainly been in a four man ALDS rotation if they got there, he might even be ahead of Pineda as #3 at this point.
 

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Didn't he participate in a chicken wings eating contest last week?

I'm thinking food rehab might follow the drinking rehab.
 

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Don't you think this is just CC getting out in front of this?  If he's made a decision to deal with this problem, it is not one he can put off for a few weeks until the season is over, because the temptation will be there for him every time he steps out of his home.   And he can't hope for privacy in this mater, because the moment he's left off the roster for the next series--assuming there is one--the questions would come and the situation would out.  
 

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Remagellan said:
Don't you think this is just CC getting out in front of this?  If he's made a decision to deal with this problem, it is not one he can put off for a few weeks until the season is over, because the temptation will be there for him every time he steps out of his home.   And he can't hope for privacy in this mater, because the moment he's left off the roster for the next series--assuming there is one--the questions would come and the situation would out.  
 
I don't have any personal experience with addiction and rehab, but from a theoretical standpoint, if he made the decision that he needed to get help, he shouldn't care one bit about the timing or what this might mean for his employer.  I imagine many addicts struggle mightily with worries about the timing of seeking help.  It must be very easy to convince yourself that timing is not right (my job, my wife, my friend... all need me here) and get further stuck in the whirlpool of the disease.  He decided to seek help, he should get that help immediately.  Good for him.
 

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The Sabathias live two towns over, and by all accounts, CC and his wife are GOOD people, with a strong down-to-earth sense of family.
 
Wouldnt surprise me a bit if this was totally motivated to strengthen their family and nothing else.
 

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Remagellan said:
Don't you think this is just CC getting out in front of this?  If he's made a decision to deal with this problem, it is not one he can put off for a few weeks until the season is over, because the temptation will be there for him every time he steps out of his home.   And he can't hope for privacy in this mater, because the moment he's left off the roster for the next series--assuming there is one--the questions would come and the situation would out.  
 
I'm told the difference in recovery and not can sometimes be measured in inches and minutes...sounds like he's made the correct decision...I hope it works out well for him.
 
edit: bold is mine
 

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86spike said:
 
I don't have any personal experience with addiction and rehab, but from a theoretical standpoint, if he made the decision that he needed to get help, he shouldn't care one bit about the timing or what this might mean for his employer.  I imagine many addicts struggle mightily with worries about the timing of seeking help.  It must be very easy to convince yourself that timing is not right (my job, my wife, my friend... all need me here) and get further stuck in the whirlpool of the disease.  He decided to seek help, he should get that help immediately.  Good for him.
 
I should make my previous comment clear, because you (and Remagellen) are absolutely correct.
 
I'm not suggesting that he should delay a decision like this based on the needs of anyone other than himself.  I'm suggesting that the timing here gives the appearance that he has done so.  Hopefully that is not correct.
 

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If there wasn't an incident, I wonder if it was simply a reasoned (albeit confusing to the outside) decision based on what time of year it is.
 
I think of what it's like watching playoff games, just at home as a fan - The high's and low's, excitement, anxiety, etc. etc. I can't imagine what it's like sitting in the dugout or performing in that environment, with the finality of the season looming over your head. 
As someone who's had to deal with addictive tendencies in the past, it seems like a time of non-stop emotional triggers, even if your someone who deals with pressure and the big stage well (sometimes the "high" can lead down an even more destructive path).
 
I have no idea if there is any truth in that what-so-ever, but I had that thought and figured it was at least worth mentioning.  And even if it was an incident, it may in fact be for the best, because of the reasons I mentioned above.
I haven't ever had much to say about C.C. but in this instance I hope he is in there for the right reasons and is getting the help he needs and is able to repress whatever demons may reside within him.
 

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As someone who DOES has extensive personal experience with addiction and rehab,  your job, relationship, etc is often the stop sign you throw up as the reason why you CANNOT go right into rehab. Needless to say by that point you are probably impaired at work or with family, and as someone also stated every single second does and can really count. When dealing with this self destructive addiction, you can get taken out at any moment, whether DUI or overdose etc, so KUDOS To Sabathia for getting help pronto. 
 
 
86spike said:
 
I don't have any personal experience with addiction and rehab, but from a theoretical standpoint, if he made the decision that he needed to get help, he shouldn't care one bit about the timing or what this might mean for his employer.  I imagine many addicts struggle mightily with worries about the timing of seeking help.  It must be very easy to convince yourself that timing is not right (my job, my wife, my friend... all need me here) and get further stuck in the whirlpool of the disease.  He decided to seek help, he should get that help immediately.  Good for him.
 

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CC probably decided to quit drinking after watching the Yankees go 1-6 last week. He had the only victory, too.
 

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It's a shame, He has a 3.63 ERA post AS break, 2.25 in Sept, and his last Oct start was even better
 

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You know you would have never seen a true Yankee like Mickey Mantle or Billy Martin go to rehab during the playoffs
 

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I'm having trouble understanding what exactly triggered his getting his ass to rehab at this very moment. He didn't get arrested (or get into another fight as far as we know). Getting shit-faced and passing out in a hotel room just doesn't seem like enough. I'm sure he's done that on plenty of other occasions.  Wife somehow catching him drunk with hooker(s) in his hotel room?  Rehab would then provide him with the Boggsian out in that case. Wasn't my fault, honey!

 
 

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I'm having trouble understanding what exactly triggered his getting his ass to rehab at this very moment. He didn't get arrested (or get into another fight as far as we know). Getting shit-faced and passing out in a hotel room just doesn't seem like enough. I'm sure he's done that on plenty of other occasions.  Wife somehow catching him drunk with hooker(s) in his hotel room?  Rehab would then provide him with the Boggsian out in that case. Wasn't my fault, honey!
 
For some a moment of clarity, perhaps he had such a moment.
 

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CoRP said:
I'm having trouble understanding what exactly triggered his getting his ass to rehab at this very moment. He didn't get arrested (or get into another fight as far as we know). Getting shit-faced and passing out in a hotel room just doesn't seem like enough. I'm sure he's done that on plenty of other occasions.  Wife somehow catching him drunk with hooker(s) in his hotel room?  Rehab would then provide him with the Boggsian out in that case. Wasn't my fault, honey!
 
 
Struggling Yankee pitcher CC Sabathia announced on Monday that he will spend the postseason drying out in rehab while his teammates chase a World Series title — a move that follows a weekend-long bender during a Baltimore road trip, sources told The Post.
 
“His drinking got really bad this weekend, and it put him in a really bad place,” said a source close to the team.
 
“He was afraid. He felt that if I don’t do this now and go into rehab, I don’t know what is going to happen.”
 
The last straw for Sabathia came during the team’s final regular-season series in Baltimore, where he spent most of his time pounding drinks at a hotel, the source said.
 
 
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yeah...I saw that.  So the he's saying he got super drunk alone in his hotel room (but was definitely not with an escort). He was more drunk than he was in Toronto when he got into the nightclub fight, and so he decided to go into rehab right now. Got it. He's a victim and hero and an inspiration to all of us.
 

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I don't know if it's true, but there was an interesting comment to an article in the Times about the timing:
 
 Over 30 days out and a ballplayer loses 1/2 of his salary. For CC, that's $250,000/inning. If he does this after the season is formally over, no loss of income and the players are likely to vote him a full share of any playoff/world series pay. Is it possible that this player with a chronic illness conveniently waited till the season was complete to declare this problem because he risked a substantial loss of money?
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/baseball/leaders-abrupt-departure-brings-only-yankees-respect.html?&moduleDetail=section-news-1&action=click&contentCollection=Baseball&region=Footer&module=MoreInSection&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&pgtype=article
 
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If true that's pretty crappy but I'm not following the math.  Sabathia doesn't make 250k per inning.
 

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Absolutely.  I was only trying to reconcile the numbers with what that comment referenced.  Also, there's the obvious point that any salary reduction would be based on prorated days, not innings.  But the broader question is whether that 30 day rule is accurate because I've never heard about that before.
 

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Yes, it could be totally wrong, sorry if it's a misdirection, but I don't have time to research the mlb contract provisions. It seemed relevant to the question, why now? But only if true.
 

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I don't know what people think of Cris Carter, maybe not a lot around here because of some things he said about the Patriots and DFG that I didn't personally hear. Regardless, on Mike and Mike this morning (I'd DVRd it and just watched it) he gave an honest, no holds barred, almost beautiful description of what alcoholism and drug addiction was/is like for him and what CC Sabathia has to go through. Watch it if you can, or want.
 

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It’s a Sunday morning in Baltimore, the final day of the regular season. The Yankees are dealing with the effects of the previous day’s doubleheader, but CC Sabathia is feeling much worse.

He’s hungover and knows he has a serious problem.

A weekend of drinking — mostly by himself in his room at the Baltimore Four Seasons — has taken its toll on Sabathia, who can barely remember the details of the previous 48 hours.

“I woke up on that Sunday and was like, ‘I can’t do this no more,’ ” Sabathia said during an extensive interview this week with the Daily News at Roc Nation headquarters. “I came in on Sunday and felt like I needed to get some help. I know it was bad timing, but I felt like if I didn’t tell somebody then, I would have been in real trouble.”
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Sabathia says his problem dates back roughly three years. After the Yankees were eliminated from the ALCS in 2012, Sabathia “realized that I had a problem with drinking.” His binges weren’t frequent, but they were serious. Asked to name his drink of choice, Sabathia said, “It didn’t matter.

“I kind of admitted that I was an alcoholic. I would put two or three months together being sober, but I would get on the road and when nobody was looking, I would isolate myself and just start drinking. Kind of binge drinking where I was going on for a whole weekend. I had that same kind of thing happen in Baltimore that weekend.”



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Reports later surfaced that Sabathia was drunk at the ballpark on both of those days, though he insists he was not drinking in the clubhouse.

“I probably was still drunk from the night before or hungover,” Sabathia said. “It happened quick.”


“I figured I could get control of it,” Sabathia said. “I would make rules for myself: ‘I’m only going to drink wine’ or ‘I’m only going to drink beer’ or ‘I’m only going to drink on the weekends.’ For me to be planning that out is an indication that I had a problem.”


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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/cc-sabathia-talks-struggles-alcohol-chose-rehab-article-1.2425326

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God speed and much health going forward CC. That being said I hope we kick your ass every time you face the Sox next year. That of course means you are healthy enough to be out there!