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Old Fart Tree

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...I know next to nothing about this team. I kinda checked out in December when the administration tried to kill the Band.

Anybody know... anything?

"Basically everybody not named McCaffrey or Solomon Thomas is back, in other words, and Shaw just signed what was, on average, his best recruiting class. The tiny class of 14 includes what was, per 247, three of the top 15 players in the class and four of the top 36. Stanford has fewer players than normal to replace and is bringing in an even higher caliber of replacement."
 

cgori

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The imbalanced Pac-12 schedule left off UCLA, Colorado, Arizona - Colorado probably is the only one we are glad to miss this year of those 3.

We have that crazy Rice-in-Australia "home game" to start the season, I think that is going to have an impact on the players, especially since...

For conference road games we drew USC in week 2 (always an interesting situation early on in the season, add trans-Pacific travel in the middle and it's a recipe for a problem), Utah in week 6, OSU/WSU in weeks 8/9.

We finish out the string with 3 straight home games (Big Game and the Irish are home this year), which means that OSU/WSU back-to-back is basically the crunch time of the season, since it is book-ended by home games against Ducks and Huskies.

I suspect we will be 4-2 going into the Ducks game (pencil in a loss to USC, and one typically inexplicable loss) and by then we will know much more about the quality of the opposition remaining, and what we've got on our hands.

Edit: I just clicked on your Solomon Thomas link. Buckeye, WTF?
 

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I am over-optimistically thinking we will be 5-1 going into the Ducks game now. Chryst and Love looked good, crosses off two concerns for me.

Oh how I would love to beat U$C though...
 

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An American friend asked me if I went. I did. Thought I'd give you a c&p of my email about the game, in case you didn't watch it.

I did go. It was actually not a bad crowd. But they were giving a lot of tickets away at the end. They, being the promoters who brought them over, made all their money out of the hospitality suites, but there were a lot of people there. Embarrassingly it was kind of a mass of 'that guys' wearing their favourite NFL jerseys and hats like a guy who wears the shirt of the band he's going to see to the concert (and, sadly but inevitably, Pats bandwagoners out bandwagoned everyone else). But it was a good, fun crowd. It's always an enjoyable day when you start drinking at 10am at the pub and don't stop.

It started innocently and amusingly; neither team brought their band. It was technically a Rice home game (which was sadly fortunate, there is literally no way they'd have been playing if they were back in Houston) but we were hoping for the fabled Standford band antics. Instead we got a bunch of nice well meaning kids from the Hunter region who tried their hearts out and had fun and messily spelled NFL at the end which was just perfect. Then a local young lady with a good voice sang the US anthem (but not the Australian one) and messed up the words. Like, she didn't make it obviously wrong but she inserted a few different ones. It sounded basically the same. Then the NCAA ref welcomed everyone to the "Sydney College Bowl in Austria!" which I'm sure was just a get-square for the anthem. Then a cannon fired and scared the sh1t out of everyone in the stadium, and after that we were warned the cannon would fire every time Rice scored (it's their 'famous' cannon).

The game had a few things going against it. For instance, the competition, or lack thereof. Stanford recieved, and ripped a 78 yard run off the first play from scrimmage, followed by a checkdown and a spiralled TD to the tight end in the corner. 7-0, 1.5 minutes. Rice took the kickoff, took three straight delay of game penalties, punted, Stanford scored from the second play of their drive and you got the feeling it was going to get a lot uglier. If you'd done a poll of everyone in the crowd, 80 per cent at least were going for Stanford (we've heard of them). By the end of the first when it was 28-0, everyone was just cheering for Rice to do something or anything. On their fourth drive they finally gained a first down off a little dink cross to the slot receiver and the crowd went wild.

The Rice guys started firing the cannon after the fourth Stanford TD for Stanford, too, like they didn't want to bring home all the gunpowder.

The second thing was the Mayweather-McGregor fight. Basically by halftime, Standford were up by 51-0 and had pulled their starters and everyone knew the fight was on in a few minutes and like 60% of the stadium abandoned either the game to go watch it or their seats for a spot in the bars where the tv's were. That took, what, 15 minutes? Then we all went back up, and when Rice, who kept their starters in, scored on Stanford's reserve reserves in the fourth the half-full stadium went crazy.

It was a fun day but there's a lesson for the 'next' one and that's to try and get a game that might have some semblance of competitive play. I won't do it again until I see who's playing. But it was enjoyable.
 

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Well that was a drubbing. The D line looked completely overmatched and the offense just couldn't keep up or capitalize on turnovers. Honestly, it felt like more of a blowout than the score indicates. It never really felt like they were in it after USC scored to make it 14-7.
 

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I suspect we will be 4-2 going into the Ducks game (pencil in a loss to USC, and one typically inexplicable loss) and by then we will know much more about the quality of the opposition remaining, and what we've got on our hands.
I'll quote myself - if we beat Utah (current line Stanford -235), we're 4-2 going into the Ducks game, losing to USC and inexplicably to SDSU. Costello has been a pleasant surprise, and Love looks like the real deal.
 

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Love has been shockingly good which is nice. Honestly, I think this is just going to be a 7-5/8-4 season which is, if anything, a bit better than I expected pre-season--there just aren't a lot of upperclassmen I expect to see on NFL rosters in the future (and certainly not first round picks) it's hard to anticipate great quarterback play, the top freshman talent at T/TE/QB are at positions that might not contribute right away, etc.

Shaw's built a nice program but for Stanford to be more like a 10/11 win than a 6/7 win team we're generally just going to have to get really good QB play.
 

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Well, either really good QB play or a bunch of road graders on the o-line that allow them to do that smashmouth/run-heavy style they were doing a few years ago. I think they actually have gotten away from it, for a combination of talent and recruiting reasons. They had those kind of guys 5 years ago, but maybe don't anymore, and I think the supply of them that can be an academic fit is very small, so if they miss on even one or two, they'll have issues. So now you have more of a "standard" offense that operates in space and uses speed / formations to get players in positions to make plays.

(I just had this weird flashback to Bill Walsh as the Stanford coach post- his 49ers success, and the cool things he did with the offense. I was thinking how awesome it would be to have Belichick "retire" to the college level in Palo Alto... the things he would do would be mind boggling. He'd go to Navy way before doing that, of course, but it was a fun idle daydream for about a minute.)
 

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Well, either really good QB play or a bunch of road graders on the o-line that allow them to do that smashmouth/run-heavy style they were doing a few years ago. I think they actually have gotten away from it, for a combination of talent and recruiting reasons. They had those kind of guys 5 years ago, but maybe don't anymore, and I think the supply of them that can be an academic fit is very small, so if they miss on even one or two, they'll have issues. So now you have more of a "standard" offense that operates in space and uses speed / formations to get players in positions to make plays.

(I just had this weird flashback to Bill Walsh as the Stanford coach post- his 49ers success, and the cool things he did with the offense. I was thinking how awesome it would be to have Belichick "retire" to the college level in Palo Alto... the things he would do would be mind boggling. He'd go to Navy way before doing that, of course, but it was a fun idle daydream for about a minute.)
Everything has to line up just right to have two guys from the same position group drafted in the first two rounds; the OL has been pretty good throughout but it's rare to have that kind of talent. that said in a year or two Foster/Sarrell/Hamilton/Hebring might be as good as the old Tunnel Works Union.

And holy shit Love might actually win himself the Heisman at this rate.
 

cgori

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And holy shit Love might actually win himself the Heisman at this rate.
I thought that in years past about McCaffrey, or Luck, or Gerhart. Unless we went to the Rose and won (and even then, it's probably not enough), he just won't get enough push / publicity.
 

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Me neither. I thought ND would roll them.

Piss on notre dame.
That TD/turnover/TD/turnover/TD sequence to completely blow the game open in the fourth was delicious.

Second shot at U$C here we come!

(And in my previous comment about winning the Rose to get Love a shot at the Heisman, I didn't realize that it was part of the championship this year. Sub in another New Year's Day game. I hope some people saw him tonight because of ND but his best runs came late, after most people had probably shut it off...)