Steven Wright arrested for domestic dispute

[nighthob]

Some people are being callous about it "costing the family money" but I think that is relevant as to why this is such a hard problem, in a way you hurt the victim twice. She's hurt because she took a beating, but then if she stays (most that I'm aware of do), she is financially hurt (not her fault, the dudes fault, but she still is harmed).

This. You can see why it's so tough on the wives in these situations. Your husband loses his job and you suffer a lot of financial damage as a result. Even moreso in this case where you're dealing with a marginal MLB pitcher who could well lose his job and basically have some pretty awful financial options going forward (we're not discussing basketball here where there are a lot of higher paying overseas jobs).

It's no wonder so many of them feel pressured to cover up for their partners' misdeeds. If memory serves even Janay Rice felt compelled to protect her husband in a seemingly worse situation (seemingly in the sense that I have no idea what happened in the Wright household and it could very well be worse than what's being reported).

 

[luckiestman]

"She took a beating..."? Where is that established?

I thought from Paul the best guess we have is they argued, and he took the phone away from her so she couldn't dial 911.

I was speaking about domestics generally and why they are a particular difficult problem. I don't have specifics on the case and didn't mean to imply I had specific information.

 

[E5 Yaz]

I recommend any young man who choses a MLB career to not marry till they retire

Good to know that single men can't be abusive toward women.

 

[Bergs]

Good to know that single men can't be abusive toward women.

Forget it, Jake.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

Yes, family statement, which seems to be authored by wife says he never raised his hand to anyone.

No way that is authored by his wife. That was either authored by him or his lawyer.

edit: this says it was released by his lawyer.

 

[PaulinMyrBch]

No way that is authored by his wife. That was either authored by him or his lawyer.

edit: this says it was released by his lawyer.

Well it says "our" home, so I suppose if she didn't write it, she had some part of approving it before the release. I highly doubt the facts as contained in that statement are incorrect. That's the main thing, the charge of assault and the facts in that statement line up and are consistent with no physical contact.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

Well it says "our" home, so I suppose if she didn't write it, she had some part of approving it before the release. I highly doubt the facts as contained in that statement are incorrect. That's the main thing, the charge of assault and the facts in that statement line up and are consistent with no physical contact.

I hate to say this but the facts that a man might see might be very different from the woman's POV. Without getting into specifics, a man who grabbed a phone out of a woman's hand might believe that he "didn't raise a hand at anyone." A woman might see this very differently, particularly if the act was very forceful.

 

[PaulinMyrBch]

I hate to say this but the facts that a man might see might be very different from the woman's POV. Without getting into specifics, a man who grabbed a phone out of a woman's hand might believe that he "didn't raise a hand at anyone." A woman might see this very differently, particularly if the act was very forceful.

Completely agree. I'd like to know the details of that portion of the incident.

I just doubt that statement was released in her voice without her consent, regardless of who wrote it. But I can see for PR reasons that there may be a fine line between raising a hand at "anyone" and physically securing a phone.

 

[Rovin Romine]

I hate to say this but the facts that a man might see might be very different from the woman's POV. Without getting into specifics, a man who grabbed a phone out of a woman's hand might believe that he "didn't raise a hand at anyone." A woman might see this very differently, particularly if the act was very forceful.

While I completely acknowledge this, there's also something to be said for respecting the agency of the people involved. Given the statement and what we currently know, this seems to be the sort of situation where society ought to say: "Well, it's their marriage. Whatever happened, it wasn't too serious, so they can figure it out."

This is right on the line for me (personally) given the phone grabbing, which is clearly a physical act of some kind in the context of an argument. But not all of those acts are equal. People get into arguments. Voices get raised. Doors get slammed. It's part of what happens. If he had hit her in that context, the state should be involved. If he verbally threatened her and she wanted a restraining order, I'd certainly support that. But as this behavior appears to be on the line, I think the wife ought to make the call as to how she wants to handle it. And right now it appears they're saying "go away."

 

[mauf]

Speaking of the "best thing to do now," can SoSH please grant MRBOSTONSPORTS his unconditional release?

As Hawk Harrelson would say, “he gone.” (I can’t take credit — someone else pulled the trigger.)

I did take the liberty of hiding a couple of his more offensive posts, along with a couple responses that quoted them — not because there was anything wrong with the responses, but because I wanted to get rid of his crap completely.

 

[Pozo the Clown]

The case against Wright has reportedly been "retired":

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/2017/12/steven_wright_has_domestic_assault_case_retired_but_mlb

 

[Lose Remerswaal]

Which doesn't mean that MLB will let him off so easy

 

[MRBOSTONSPORTS]

As Hawk Harrelson would say, “he gone.” (I can’t take credit — someone else pulled the trigger.)

I did take the liberty of hiding a couple of his more offensive posts, along with a couple responses that quoted them — not because there was anything wrong with the responses, but because I wanted to get rid of his crap completely.

and a Merry Christmas to you.

 

[oumbi]

Ghost of Christmas past?

 

[DeadlySplitter]

http://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/wright-suspended-15-games-violation-domestic-violence-policy

Red Sox pitcher Steven Wright will be suspended 15 games for violating MLB’s domestic violence policy, NBC Sports Boston has learned. The league is set to make the announcement Friday.

Wright, working his way back from right knee surgery, has to serve the suspension when healthy. Potential time on the disabled list to begin the season would not count. Wright is not expected to appeal.

 

[AB in DC]

Who decides if/when he's "healthy"?

 

[mauidano]

Who decides if/when he's "healthy"?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's "healthy" starting next Thursday. This whole thing sucks for everyone concerned. The Wright family, the Red Sox and MLB. Let's get it done and move on.

 

[sackamano]

He has to be removed from the DL in order for the suspension to begin

 

[Mueller's Twin Grannies]

Can they activate him, let him serve the suspension, let him warm-up in a game, and then DL him?

 

[Spelunker]

Can they activate him, let him serve the suspension, let him warm-up in a game, and then DL him?

I don't think it's a very good look to be seen as trying to skirt punishment for domestic violence.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

There's been talk that Wright was in the mix to start next Sunday's game in St Pete, so there's no real reason to DL him if that's the case. He'll start the year on the restricted list serving the suspension, and when it's up, he'll be activated and put on the roster. In the meantime, he'll continue to ramp up his pitch count in extended spring training (Aroldis Chapman did the same when he was suspended in 2016).

 

[Jerry’s Curl]

I don't think it's a very good look to be seen as trying to skirt punishment for domestic violence.

Like Zeke Elliott?

 

[joe dokes]

Spelunker said: ↑

I don't think it's a very good look to be seen as trying to skirt punishment for domestic violence.

Like Zeke Elliott?

I think spelunker's statement stands on its own. Doesn't need an exemplar.

 

[judyb]

Isn't the only reason to put a player on the DL before the season starts to put him on the 60 day DL to open a 40 man spot? Are any of the Red Sox injured players actually on the DL yet?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Isn't the only reason to put a player on the DL before the season starts to put him on the 60 day DL to open a 40 man spot? Are any of the Red Sox injured players actually on the DL yet?

They just put Pomeranz and Rodriguez on the DL today. DL in spring training is generally meaningless except for a 60-day DL to open a spot like you say.

The reason for placing players on the regular DL now is to start the clock on when they can be activated once the season starts. By being put on the DL today, either pitcher would be eligible to be activated by the home opener, which is only 7 days into the season.

 

[Mueller's Twin Grannies]

I don't think it's a very good look to be seen as trying to skirt punishment for domestic violence.

He'd still be serving the suspension, though... the player is the one being punished, but can't the team help lessen the impact to overall onfield pursuits?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

He'd still be serving the suspension, though... the player is the one being punished, but can't the team help lessen the impact to overall onfield pursuits?

Is the player really being punished if he's suspended for games he was going to miss anyway? All he's really losing in that situation is his paycheck.

Wright has been on track to break camp with the team. It's been his stated plan. Absent the suspension, he might have been the fourth starter right out of the gate. If not that, then he might have joined Rodriguez and Pomeranz on the DL today and been ready to go by the home opener. There is no reason at all to game anything. He'll serve his suspension and join the team immediately after, no DL stint required.

 

[judyb]

Does Steven Wright make so much money that losing a few paychecks isn't a real punishment or does he make so little that a few paychecks worth isn't enough to be a real punishment?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

15 games worth of salary for Wright is about $100,000. Judge for yourself how much punishment that is. My point was that the punishment should include forcing him to sit out games he'd otherwise be participating in. If they try to game it so the suspension is essentially part of a longer DL stint, it's not much of a punishment.

 

[oumbi]

Does Steven Wright make so much money that losing a few paychecks isn't a real punishment or does he make so little that a few paychecks worth isn't enough to be a real punishment?

You be the judge. Here are his earnings from the Red Sox to date:

2014 29 Boston Red Sox $502,000
2015 30 Boston Red Sox $510,500
2016 31 Boston Red Sox $514,500
2017 32 Boston Red Sox $593,500
2018 33 Boston Red Sox $1,100,000
Earliest Arb Eligible: 2019, Earliest Free Agent: 2021
Career to date (may be incomplete) $2,120,500

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wrighst01.shtml

 

[Rovin Romine]

Does Steven Wright make so much money that losing a few paychecks isn't a real punishment or does he make so little that a few paychecks worth isn't enough to be a real punishment?

A broader question is, what's the point of punishment? And what's the basis for MLB, as a private actor, to punish beyond what our elected officials have enacted into law, and what our elected officials are charged with upholding? (Not rhetorical questions.)

While I think it's fine that some institutions like MLB (whose players have a union) set up some kind of oversight/help for social behavior, IMO any system that seems to be based on publicly reported fines for a "publicly reported incident" is very much a PR fig leaf.

The whole system seems a bit wonky to me: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mlbpa-agree-on-domestic-violence-policy/c-144508842

Either you're helping people confidentially or you're publicly signaling you think they're not holding up their end of the private help. Or you're signaling that you're punishing them "more," on top of whatever the actual shared public law thinks is appropriate.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Wright will start the year on the DL after all. Will serve the suspension once he's healthy enough to be activated.

 

[Ale Xander]

In case anyone is wondering, no, he will not count as one of the 25.

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox/clubhouse_insider/2018/03/steven_wright_suspended_15_games_by_mlb_for_domestic