The Game Goat Thread: Wk 4 vs Panthers
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Thank Buddha these teams do not have lasting power. AFCE is still Pats' to lose but boy, this poor D is hard to comprehend.
Eric Rowe. Straight up blew at least 3 assignments in the 2nd quarter alone. 2 of them led to TDs. Trash. Why is this guy getting burn over Malcolm Butler again?
I'm not a "blame the refs" guy but off the ball penalties that have no impact on the play on the field could be called on almost every play. Holding could be as well. It's tough for the refs because of that but on those calls the flag should stay in their pocket unless it's eggregious and/or dangerous.
Gilmore has elite talent. He is rarely beaten physically. Bill must have thought Rex was doing something wrong and he could mold him better to Patricia's system. It's quite possible he's just a complete moron incapable of learning the system, but to me it's clear that all three DB are not playing well at all. Butler and Rowe have been here longer, not sure what their issues are, though Rowe on the inside doesn't seem like a good idea. It appears they have three outside corners.
Keep in mind two years ago SoSH thought Logan Ryan was the worst player on the team and four years ago it was Hightower.
Keep in mind two years ago SoSH thought Logan Ryan was the worst player on the team and four years ago it was Hightower.
Non-blatant holding (both offensive and defensive) is generally ignored unless it occurs at the point of attack. I’m not aware of any other custom regarding non-calling of penalties. No way Gilmore had any right to expect a non-call.
Do whatever you want, man. I guarantee you'll waste more mental bandwidth writing the post than I will reading it.
Dear God.
The refs suck! THEY HATE THE PATRIOTS!!!
Some quality posting right there, after our defense just got torched yet again and are leading the league in points allowed.
Let's blame the zebras all the way to the next Lombardi. That's the way to improve a struggling team, alright.
Gilmore was rated one of the worst DBs in the entire league last year. Elite talent doesn't mean anything if you play like garbage. And he's obviously a moron if he doesn't have enough game awareness to avoid getting his hands direclty into a WR's face at the most important juncture of the game.
He's a bad player doing bad things for really bad money, and his signing is a catastrophe.
The first Gilmore call was beyond ticky tack. His pinky grazed the guy's facemask. At that point, I'm comfortable saying the coaching staff made the decision the risk was worth the reward, because that contact is unavoidable in press coverage.
He was rated meh by an outlet we (including you, specifically) have called so unreliable that we don't mention them by name. It's pretty well agreed upon he had a strong second half last season.
Gotta disagree with this. Lots of contact off the ball gets let go, otherwise the game would be unwatchable (we're already getting close to that. The game this morning in London was brutal and officiating was a big part of it). I do agree that Gilmore should have been more careful after the first call, though.
It's a penalty for sure but I think the refs can call something like that on almost every play if they want to.
The fact is the Panthers were pathetic on offense until they got to Foxboro. Kalil was also out today (edit, Benjamin goof). Arguments could have been made that the Chiefs are an elite team, the Saints didn't necessarily explode on us, and the Texans have big play potential with Deshaun Watson (scored 57 points today) - but I think the caveats are gone now.
I expected to start seeing some improvement defensively by the 4th game.
I expected to start seeing some improvement defensively by the 4th game.
Didn't cost them per se but worth noting on a weekly basis that the punter is really bad in a league where you can basically blindly throw darts and find a guy who can at least blast it downfield.
They could do that anyway and keep Gilmore and Butler if they want 2 high priced corners. If Butler got upset by them giving Gilmore big money while he plays this year for peanuts he probably gets equally upset if they give Ryan big money while he plays for peanuts.
Yet again you don't understand the point.
The TEAM won't blame the refs, only people that know little about football will.
I certainly remember the Pats torching his dumb ass in their matchups last year.
Just admit it, Bill fucked up this signing bigtime. They gave him huge money and he's Kyle Arrington 2.0 out there. At least Arrington could play slot.
You're warming up to me and you don't even realize it! I'm a slow burn. You'll see.
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I am going to bed as it's 6 am here but if there are posts that do not follow the basic posting rules, I will be happy to clean them up in the morning.
I am going to bed as it's 6 am here but if there are posts that do not follow the basic posting rules, I will be happy to clean them up in the morning.
Your dedication to watching the games in real time and starting these threads afterwards is impressive.
It's so utterly myopic. The penalty is often the reason the action went somewhere else.
So would you rather see more calls because there is 100% certainty that they could call more by the book. That is irrefutable.
Goat is Patricia, Belichick, and the secondary that can't seem to figure out how to hand off players when they are stacked or motioned.
No. I'm just saying that "calls away from the action shouldn't be called" is stupid as a general rule.
I don't necessarily disagree but when the infraction is very minor and the guy still comes out of his break fine, where do you draw the line? You could call illegal contact on at least 1/2 the pass plays in the NFL.
It would be one thing if the WR fell down or stopped running but his head moved (no review ever showed if it was embellished or not) and he stayed right in stride. Gronk gets more contact on at least 1/2 his routes run and gets a call roughly 3% of the time.