As my post suggests, I agree that it’s unlikely that they’ll go over the 41.5 number, but I was just asking for some civility from those coming into the thread. The thread was started by LondonSox, who is a fellow Sixers fan, so it’s not like the thread was created to be a place for Celtics fans to troll Sixers fans.
Shams added that it is one of the most complex trades in the league with pot entail to hit up to $178m if all the triggers hit.
Saw one report that Embiid gets the full $148MM unless he is waived and another that says that there are salary cap protections for PHI in case he misses a significant amount of time.
Anything to the rumor that it wasn't Philly shutting him down but rather it was his representation until an extension was signed? Makes sense if it were the latter too.
Really? It is surprising you feel this way. Care to elaborate?
Quick and dirty, Sportrac has them just under $60M for 10 players under contract if they don't pick up Okafor's option. Cap is projected between $101 and $102 for next year, so max space is $30.3-30.6M. They definitely need to renounce Stauskas/Redick/Johnson to get to max space.
If there's no 18-25M slot for Robert Covington, Marcus Smart is going to be *very* disappointed with his next contract.
Note CAP HIT, the Sixers can front load the contract into this year's cap space and make it lighter hit on the back end when they might really need the space.
The $10M/yr cap hit was just to make the math easier, but I did assume Philly would frontload his contract which is why I speculated how creative they would get with this year's cap space to keep the cap hit down. Even if they sign him to the equivalent of a 3/54 extension, they could give him $13M extra this year and get the cap hit down from 18 to 13.7 the next 3 years.
So to me this makes sense with wings, but isn't PG where you want to have one primary ball carrier and distributor taking it up the court and running the offense? Does one of them figure to be more likely to move to the other guard position? Obviously Simmons has the length for it (or anywhere on the court), but he's also putting up like 8 APG right now.
Those guys are so few and far between that you are never going to structure your roster balance to accommodate for this type of pressure. Any 2-guard can help relieve pressure bringing the ball upcourt in certain matchups but a Simmons/Bev or a Simmons/Brad matchup is an enormous advantage for the Sixers moving forward with Simmons ability to post-up, score in the paint, and/or recognize double teams for easy layup dumps to teammates.
Eh, part of what made Fultz the consensus #1 was his perceived value as a primary initiator. With the Sixers, there's no question that you want Simmons initiating, so you're taking a chunk of Fultz's value away right there and banking on him being happy and fully engaged playing off-ball. The upside is really high- if it works you've got an elite secondary creator and a devastating transition offense, so I'm not saying they should've traded down for a more traditional off-guard, whether a 3&D like Mitchell or a gunner like Monk, but I do think there's some risk with the fit and that Fultz's upside is lower if he's not the primary ball-handler.
The part that has to have the Sixers beating themselves up is how perfect a fit Tatum now looks like he would be at the 4 with Simmons and Embiid.
Ainge has said he would have just taken Tatum with the first pick anyways, so if you believe him there wasn't really a chance for the Sixers to take Tatum (unless we're thinking in terms of lottery luck or tanking harder last year).
He has also said numerous times he thinks Fultz will be the better player, even before considering fit and need. I still think that is very possible. People are a bit overly reactive to the performance of an injured player.
There was zero chance imo that the Lakers were going to take anyone other than Ball. He singlehandedly has LA excited about the Lakers again. Their Vegas summer league sold out over 20,000 seats from fans traveling from LA that first weekend of play to catch Ball. Magic knows marketing.
Ah, that's true.
I think the question isn't just of absolute value or skill, but with Simmons emerging as the primary ball handler for the foreseeable future, whether you get more value from a wing than from a guard that plays with the ball in his hand a lot and derives value that way. It probably leads back to the old best player available versus best fit argument.
Tatum ahead of Fultz is really a function of how good Tatum has been, not of problems with Fultz per se. Just taking BPM, here is the complete list of 19-year olds to have an above average BPM through at least 300 minutes.
Isn’t the value having another guy who can initiate the offense rather than relying on Simmons, similar to Horford/Hayward for the Celtics?
