This will be Derek Jeter's final season

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We need a photoshop of Jeter's face on this picture
 

 
Maybe Leo can use it in the Post
 
Looking at it George C has calm eyes as well
 

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Yankees are like the guys left in prison after Andy or Randle P. are gone, talking about the awesomey awesomeness of the guy who's not there anymore. Complete with camera pull-in on inmate with hint of sadness in his face because he knows the songbird has flown and the rest of them are now just stuck with each other in lousy assrape prison.
 

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I think it's smart. They will be running out of numbers to retire soon so retiring titles is the next logical step. I'm sure there was discussion about retiring the name Derek but I think they came to the right decision.
 

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tims4wins said:
Cashman wants to retire the captaincy of the NYY
 
 
 
 
This is the kind of shit that drives Sox fans crazy. Jeter is the leaderiest leader in the history of leaders so no one else could possibly be a captain of the NYY for the history of forever.
 
Seriously?
 
My honest reaction to this is that it's part of what will be a coordinated effort to have Jeter be the first member of the HOF to be voted in unanimously.
 
I don't think it will work, because there's always some asshole who leaves great players off their ballot specifically because they don't think anyone should be unanimous, but I believe that the Yankees are going to push very hard to turn Jeter's inevitable enshrinement into a marketing bonanza.  "Retiring"" the captaincy fits perfectly within that plan.
 

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My takeaway from this is just that Cashman would prefer there not be a captain, and this is a perfect time to push that perspective, because 1) it's not really necessary and 2) it's something else he needs to pay someone for or that might get in the way of moving a guy. The earlier part of the quote from that piece:

"I'm not a big advocate of giving out the captaincy anyway. I'm not going to recommend anyone being named captain of the New York Yankees right away.''
 

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jon abbey said:
My takeaway from this is just that Cashman would prefer there not be a captain, and this is a perfect time to push that perspective, because 1) it's not really necessary and 2) it's something else he needs to pay someone for or that might get in the way of moving a guy. The earlier part of the quote from that piece:

"I'm not a big advocate of giving out the captaincy anyway. I'm not going to recommend anyone being named captain of the New York Yankees right away.''
 
This is my take on it as well. My read on Cashman, for what it's worth, is that he's a little more practical and a little less swept up in the Yankee mythology as some others. As JA said, there are real world implications to having a captain that could make his job more difficult down the road, and it sounds to me like he's just trying to take advantage of this opportunity to not deal with it anymore. 
 
In fact, if you read the piece it comes off less as "Derek Jeter was such a pinnacle of leadership that having anyone try to replace him does a disservice to the game of baseball" and more "We can have leadership in the club house without having a designated official captain. 
 
 
And [Cashman] pointed out Thursday that there are often many different leaders within a big league clubhouse, even during Jeter's 11-year tenure as captain, the longest in Yankees history.
"Everyone knows that Mariano Rivera took care of the relievers and Andy Pettitte took care of the starters,'' Cashman said. "And of course the managers, Joe Torre and Joe Girardi, were leaders as well. So I'm not an advocate of one guy being 'the guy.'"
 
 
"I didn't think we needed a captain this year, and I think guys need to lead," Girardi told ESPNNewYork.com. "I don't think you necessarily have to have a captain to have leaders. 
"I don't think you have to have a 'C' on your chest to be a leader."
 
On a separate note, if Derek Jeter actually did get into the Hall of Fame unanimously, which I think will never happen because there will always be at least one person who does something inane like turn in a blank ballot to protest Jack Morris never being elected, it may cause my brain to explode. 
 

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Come on.  The idea that Cashman would feel that he has to pay someone more because there's a C on their jersey is nuts.  Who knows what his real reasons are for his positions, and I honestly don't care and don't think it matters.
 

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I can understand Cashman killing discussion of a new Yankee captain so soon after the Deity Jeter's retirement, and there's no homegrown officer material on the horizon, but the thought that he float the thought of killing the Y-captaincy given its heritage seems a little strange. Maybe AR's on to something.
 
More than Re2pect,
 
Reverence!
 

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tims4wins said:
I don't think anyone has ever said the Sox should never have another captain
For all the Yanks' bloviating over Jeter, they never sewed a superfluous C to his jersey. That's all I'm saying.
 

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I agree that the fawning over Varitek as captain was overblown. It doesn't come within .000001% of Jeter, but yes, it is true.
 

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jon abbey said:
My takeaway from this is just that Cashman would prefer there not be a captain, and this is a perfect time to push that perspective, because 1) it's not really necessary and 2) it's something else he needs to pay someone for or that might get in the way of moving a guy. The earlier part of the quote from that piece:

"I'm not a big advocate of giving out the captaincy anyway. I'm not going to recommend anyone being named captain of the New York Yankees right away.''
 
This was basically my thought as well. I imagine Cashman views a captain as relatively useless and totally unnecessary, so this is just a chance to basically eliminate the possibility with good PR cover for it.
 

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LeoCarrillo said:
Yankees are like the guys left in prison after Andy or Randle P. are gone, talking about the awesomey awesomeness of the guy who's not there anymore. Complete with camera pull-in on inmate with hint of sadness in his face because he knows the songbird has flown and the rest of them are now just stuck with each other in lousy assrape prison.
I laughed and I cried. Nice Leo.
 

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