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I kiss my 3 and 1 year old on the lips.

The weird part for me was when the kid gave him a kiss, but Brad called it "only a peck", so the kid gave him a 5 second make out session.

I'm kidding, of course, but I do think the second kiss was a little excessive. Still, who cares? He loves his kids and that's a good thing.
 

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I kiss my 3 and 1 year old on the lips.

The weird part for me was when the kid gave him a kiss, but Brad called it "only a peck", so the kid gave him a 5 second make out session.

I'm kidding, of course, but I do think the second kiss was a little excessive. Still, who cares? He loves his kids and that's a good thing.
You're just jealous.
 

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I recall an SNL sketch several years ago about a mother/father who were "Bradyesque" with their kids. And while it was over the top, there was an "ewww" factor, underneath the premise.
 

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Let's be honest: Edelman walking in while Alex Guerrero was aggressively massaging Brady's groin area was way more uncomfortable than anything with the kids.
 

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So in one week, between the thing with his daughter and this, Brady went from sinister aloof playboy bad guy to the new poster boy for progressive fatherly affection.

The man knows no bounds.
 

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So in one week, between the thing with his daughter and this, Brady went from sinister aloof playboy bad guy to the new poster boy for progressive fatherly affection.

The man knows no bounds.
Brady is always working on his weaknesses, always trying to improve. It's what makes him the GOAT. He'll be up for GFOAT next.
 

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Funny, I was just about to comment that I've never seen anyone I know kiss their kids on the mouth here in Brazil. In fact, there's currently a father who kisses his adult daughter on the lips in a reality show and people are flipping out about it
Well, she isn't his little girl anymore...
 

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Saw that too on an article about the WEEI kerfuffle. Of course, now there are articles up about how weird it is he kisses his kid on his lips.
"OMG!!! Why is this even a thing??!?!?!?!?!"----as we move onto like 50 posts on it.
 

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Episode 4 is the first thing that has happened in my life that makes me wonder if I fucked up not having kids. And the stuff with his Mom...this show is a lot more than I had hoped for.
 

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Best one yet.

Edit: As someone who has kids from a prior marriage and who doesn't live with them full time, the scenes of him and his son on the trip to Asia were profound. It is hard for me to find enough time to spend with all of my kids and I don't work 1/10 as hard as Brady does at my job. Great to see him expressing the struggle that many parents feel trying to balance work and family (although admittedly he has more resources to help then most anyone else).

Also I'm completely blown away by the international Super Model becoming the one who holds down the house and takes care of the kids while Tom focuses on football. I'm sure they have more help around the house and with the kids than they are showing us, but she's still seems way more present than I had assumed.
 
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This series makes deflategate look even dumber than it did before. I’m sorry to bring up that topic, but this is the guy the league decided to make an example of? He’s the best quarterback ever and an upstanding family man who works his ass off. Very glad I get to root for him.
 

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This series makes deflategate look even dumber than it did before. I’m sorry to bring up that topic, but this is the guy the league decided to make an example of? He’s the best quarterback ever and an upstanding family man who works his ass off. Very glad I get to root for him.
Amen to this. Brady is everything the league should want their players to be. And it was such a non issue. I’ll never understand.

I’m a broken record but this series or whatever is phenomenal. So well done.
 

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Best one yet.

Edit: As someone who has kids from a prior marriage and who doesn't live with them full time, the scenes of him and his son on the trip to Asia were profound. It is hard for me to find enough time to spend with all of my kids and I don't work 1/10 as hard as Brady does at my job. Great to see him expressing the struggle that many parents feel trying to balance work and family (although admittedly he has more resources to help then most anyone else).

Also I'm completely blown away by the international Super Model becoming the one who holds down the house and takes care of the kids while Tom focuses on football. I'm sure they have more help around the house and with the kids than they are showing us, but she's still seems way more present than I had assumed.
Shes been "retired" for a few years now. Still pulls down $37 mill a year.
 

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37m a year? From what?
She gets $4 million+ a year from P&G, more than that from Chanel, and:

In 2001, Bündchen launched Ipanema Gisele Bündchen, her own line of flip-flop sandals...Ipanema Gisele Bündchen made an estimated £152 million with over 250 million pairs sold in 2010...She has her own lingerie line called Gisele Bundchen Intimates...In 2010, Bündchen introduced her own skin care product line, named Sejaa Pure Skincare
By the end of 2014, Bündchen appeared in 6,013 television commercial spots in the course of one year in Brazil. More than any other Brazilian celebrity, even outranking Neymar who made 5,625 TV commercial spots...In 2016, Bündchen signed with Braziian shoe company Arezzo. According to fashion website glamurama, Bündchen made shares of Arezzo go up on the São Paulo Stock Exchange...In September 2014, the Baltimore-based company Under Armour signed Bündchen to a multiyear deal as the latest addition to its list of female endorsers
And Gisele's $700 Book Sells Out

And so on, and so on.
 

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This series makes deflategate look even dumber than it did before. I’m sorry to bring up that topic, but this is the guy the league decided to make an example of? He’s the best quarterback ever and an upstanding family man who works his ass off. Very glad I get to root for him.
Amen to this.

I know these are slickly produced pieces with finely crafted narratives. However unless Brady is a giant phony (and fantastic actor), he really seems like the kind of player a league that markets with the phrase "football is family" would want to promote.

And then I realize this is the NFL we are talking about...
 

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Tough episode for the TB12 infomercial narrative.

It got a little dusty in the TS household when his mom get her ring...and specifically all the reactions to same. Sweet stuff.
 

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This series makes deflategate look even dumber than it did before. I’m sorry to bring up that topic, but this is the guy the league decided to make an example of? He’s the best quarterback ever and an upstanding family man who works his ass off. Very glad I get to root for him.
It really is incredible when you think about it. He's basically the last guy the league should have decided to go after. I don't really think, of course, that they chose Tom Brady. I think they thought that Deflategate would indict Belichick, and so they went after them hard, but when it became clear that BB literally had no idea what they were talking about, but that there were a handful of bizarre texts between the ball guys that could maybe possibly indicate Brady had something going on, they were all in. And in no way were they giving up article 46.

Brady is everything the NFL should want in a player. Literally everything.
 

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Tough episode for the TB12 infomercial narrative.
That's what I was thinking after watching the latest installment. Zero mentions/situations involving TB12 at all. If people are going with any sort of infomercial narrative it's for the Tom Brady brand. I don't care what his motives are for doing it, I'm just glad he did it. Ideally there will be additional footage released at some point because there has to be a ton of hours on the cutting room floor.
 

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And the kid totally lied about making his bed as well :)
I thought so too but it was hard to tell.

The best part of that interaction with his son was his son's switch from talking about film to going into his pitch about the Ninjango Lego he wanted. "So dad, I think you're so great at this sports thing but I was at Toys R Us and. . . ."
 

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I thought so too but it was hard to tell.

The best part of that interaction with his son was his son's switch from talking about film to going into his pitch about the Ninjango Lego he wanted. "So dad, I think you're so great at this sports thing but I was at Toys R Us and. . . ."
Haha yeah. Anyone with kids could relate to that tactic right there. Classic kid manipulation move.
 

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Amen to this.

I know these are slickly produced pieces with finely crafted narratives. However unless Brady is a giant phony (and fantastic actor), he really seems like the kind of player a league that markets with the phrase "football is family" would want to promote.

And then I realize this is the NFL we are talking about...
Well, we know that's not true.
 

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New episode is up. It's awesome. My favorite part is when Giselle is saying, "Look at that moon, we're so lucky to start the new year with such a beautiful moon." Tom's like, "So they said we're probably playing Saturday night."

Giselle's look back and then another look back is legendary.
 

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What the fuck? Tom Brady doesn't put his truck in his garage and has to wipe off the snow. That might be the biggest stunner of this episode.
 

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What the fuck? Tom Brady doesn't put his truck in his garage and has to wipe off the snow. That might be the biggest stunner of this episode.
To be honest, I'm surprised he drives himself.

Regardless, is there supposed to be one more? That episode was maybe my favorite. Really encapsulated everything really well and I would understand if it's the finale.

but with the Super Bowl, if they win...how do you not follow it up?
 

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I laughed when he was driving home and G says to him how they're going to spend NYE, building a fire, writing down their goals, and he's got to meditate for an hour, you can feel his "I love you and I 'try to put up with your stuff, because you put up with mine" in the interchange, and it rings true and is endearing.

There's going to be a 6th E, capturing the Super Bowl.

Let's hope for a happy ending.
 

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To be honest, I'm surprised he drives himself.

Regardless, is there supposed to be one more? That episode was maybe my favorite. Really encapsulated everything really well and I would understand if it's the finale.

but with the Super Bowl, if they win...how do you not follow it up?
There is one more, which will likely deal with the playoffs and the super bowl and its aftermath. There is no release date for it, yet.
 

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I know this his highly edited and there is a narrative. But the infomercial concerns were overblown and instead, we get a window - and lets be honest, its a tightly controlled window - into the life of Tom Brady. The great thing is that if you were already a fan, its hard not to like him more after watching it. And I suspect any non fans who bother to watch will have to admit they like him more too.
 

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To be honest, I'm surprised he drives himself.

Regardless, is there supposed to be one more? That episode was maybe my favorite. Really encapsulated everything really well and I would understand if it's the finale.

but with the Super Bowl, if they win...how do you not follow it up?
Agreed, how does he not have a driver or even park in the garage? Amazing would have never would have guessed it.

I find G down to earth and super nice/cool. Also interesting that it seems that she has put her career somewhat on hold for the family when she is world famous on many more levels that TB12. But I also guess both have a self life on their careers. TB with being an athlete and G being model, both being depleting resources as you age.

Also found it interesting that he is driving a basic ford pickup and even though the house looks crazy from the outside the inside really seems homely.

People had commented, above, about what a f*ck up the NFL attacking for deflated balls in a bullshit witch hunt when they should have been promoting him as the face of the franchise. 1000% agree NFL is a total shit show.
 

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Agreed, how does he not have a driver or even park in the garage? Amazing would have never would have guessed it.

I find G down to earth and super nice/cool. Also interesting that it seems that she has put her career somewhat on hold for the family when she is world famous on many more levels that TB12. But I also guess both have a self life on their careers. TB with being an athlete and G being model, both being depleting resources as you age.

Also found it interesting that he is driving a basic ford pickup and even though the house looks crazy from the outside the inside really seems homely.

People had commented, above, about what a f*ck up the NFL attacking for deflated balls in a bullshit witch hunt when they should have been promoting him as the face of the franchise. 1000% agree NFL is a total shit show.
To be fair, we are only seeing what we're being shown.

I'm sure she works a lot, and they get a lot of help with the kids.
 

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I know this his highly edited and there is a narrative. But the infomercial concerns were overblown and instead, we get a window - and lets be honest, its a tightly controlled window - into the life of Tom Brady. The great thing is that if you were already a fan, its hard not to like him more after watching it. And I suspect any non fans who bother to watch will have to admit they like him more too.
Yep, the infomercial thing was an understandable worry going on, and the first episode fed into that. But it takes a confirmed cynic to keep up the theme after all five.

The family and teammate stuff was terrific.
 

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What the fuck? Tom Brady doesn't put his truck in his garage and has to wipe off the snow. That might be the biggest stunner of this episode.
I said the same thing to my wife as I was watching it. The dude's got to go solidify HFA through the playoffs and he's out there scraping off the car? I'm sure the Ford is left out because the vehicles being protected cost just a bit more but I thought it was funny.
 

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I thought the most interesting part was how Brady and Guerrero set up a makeshift massage table in a suite on game day for Tom's treatments, and they had to worry about wanderers by. It's hard to get as sense of a fluid situation from just a few minutes of footage, but it really seemed like all the players have been pretty good natured about respective each other's boundaries. Brady gets his treatment/psycho analysis during game day and Belichick gets his boundaries in the locker room or whatever he needs to do to keep his medical staff from getting pissed.

I also really liked the MVP question. Brady thinks about it for a while before giving an honest answer, or what seemed to be an honest answer. Who knows how conscious he is of the camera. But his line -- about wanting to win player of the month of February -- was pretty good.

The director is really good. I think he's capturing and presenting an interesting subtext about relationships that goes well beyond Brady. It's subtle but he's definitely captured some concern -- or maybe concern is too strong, but question marks -- about what life will be like when the opportunities for Brady to live in the zone, the area he's most comfortable, go away. It's a very relatable question. Unless you're a surgeon or an astronaut used to coming in and out of the zone it's probably not the same level of intensity. And few of us are super models or married to them. But it's not that different from the questions couples ask themselves when retirement age approaches or the kids go away to college. Despite the obvious wealth and good looks of his subjects, and notwithstanding the fact that both are probably GOATs in two of the most highly competitive fields in the world, Chopra has really made a nice little film.

Edit: One other thought. NFL copyrighted material and logos, and Patriots property, are all over this thing and I suspect Chopra had to get clearance from both -- entities that are usually pretty stingy about that stuff. Not sure if I have the law right, but it's actually kind of interesting the NFL is allowing actual copyright game footage in a documentary not produced by NFL Films.
 

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God dammit, Tom Brady, PAY ATTENTION TO THE ROAD WHEN YOU DRIVE. I get you have a supermodel wife, but the rest of us need you, too!
 

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What I think is interesting and what likely makes the marriage work as much as anything is that Gisele has to be (or has had to have been) as maniacally focused and dedicated in her career as Tom has been in his. In other words, she understands the sacrifice necessary for greatness, sees it in Tom and has lived it in her own life. There is definitely a tension there, as I think Gisele on the one hand totally understands Tom's drive, but on the other hand, she's asking herself (and Tom) how much is enough? 5 superbowl champions, 6, 7...and how about these kids we have now and their Dad being a bit more available? Ultimately, I think she sees and understands how focused he is and how much he loves what he does, and if she deprived him of that, it would be bad for everyone. Doesn't mean she doesn't have those thoughts.
 

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Cross posting here from the thread in the media forum
A few obs from episode 5
1. You’re Tom Brady, married to Giselle, have more money than just about everyone on the planet... park your car in the garage! Seeing Tom clean the snow off of his car was probably the first time I’ve questioned his decision making on anything!
2. His kids watch Super Why! Which means nothing except that my kids were (and still are) watching it while I was watching the episode.
3. Why does Michael Strahan get listed in the “special thank you” section of the credits?

And I’ll add here that, while I know it’s edited, Giselle’s tone re: Tom’s career doesn’t seem to be as negative as it’s been made out to be. It’s like she accepts that it’s his decision and he’s not done
 

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Anyone who thinks Brady is walking away after this season should watch that. Another amazing episode.

And I am obsessed with things like “could you imagine being stopped at a red light on a Sunday morning and Tom Brady is in the car behind you on the way to the Stadium.” I live probably 10 miles from Brady, I will now spend all of my time in the car looking for the black pickup truck.
 

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So was he getting a treatment in that luxury box because that was after Guerrero was banned or whatever?